Ooooh a Spanking!Follow

It seems you missed the second level of sarcasm. I'm against spanking and for government involvement.

Going a bit out of bounds, because it seems Kaelesh wants to take it there, people will do whatever they please so long as nothing interferes with that. They'll dance, they'll speak, they'll kill, they'll steal. If change is desired on a large scale then it requires an organized effort to bring it into reality. Hoping people do not steal does nothing, laws and enforcement removing that ability has effect.

If people are parenting poorly (or not optimally) then expecting them to spontaneously change is inane.

Edited, Nov 28th 2007 12:07pm by Allegory

Actually, I know here in the state of Texas, time out is not allowed in day care settings. It's apparently cruel to separate the little deviant fuCker child from his playmates when he's done wrong. You can set him down in the middle of the other children but you are not allowed to separate him from the others.

/nods

(What I heard you say was "it's n-n-not as n-n-naasty as somefing I just thought of")

Unenforcable, intrusive, do-gooding legislation.

I'm not going to get into the whole "It's ok to hit your kis, you know, a little" thing again, but assaulting children should have the same legal consequences as assaulting adults.

If it's ok for me slap my waitress on the *** when she's slow bringing me coffee then it's should be ok for you idiots to hit your children. If it's not then it shouldn't be. Laws regarding parents and children should resemble laws involving people interacting with people instead of property laws as is the current case.

Do I sense some long lost little boy crying in the closet after his daddy beat the tar out of him?

Not at all. My parents occasionally hit me, and I don't particularly think it damaged me, nor do I particularly think it benefited me. That's the way I see "non abusive" hitting of children, and, incidentally, it's pretty much the consensus among researchers. Hitting your children using non injurious force to enforce a consistent set of boundaries likely doesn't ***** them up. The salient point, however, is that it doesn't benefit them *at all* either. So if parents decide to do it they're doing it solely for their own gratification.

I don't find that a particularly compelling reason to allow it.

Makes sense. After all, it's perfectly okay for me to send my waitress to bed and keep her from watching television if I'm displeased with her.

Depends on the waitress in my experience....

Well, we do have a perfectly acceptable and fairly effective way to punish servers that don't give good service.

So the next time my kid misbehaves, I should only tip him 10%?

Or make them wear roller-skates.

Most people here seem to agree that the usual age where you spank is below the typical age where you give them an allowance.

Although, if I was a restaurant manager and my waitress was doing a crappy job, I could fire her. Next time Joph Jr is bad, I'll threaten to send him to a state orphanage so his misbehaving *** can find a new family who wants to deal with his shit. Sounds much healthier than a smack on the ***

Edited, Nov 28th 2007 5:54pm by Jophiel

Something I thought of today is that Mass already has laws protecting kids from abuse. This is seperate from those. Wouldnt you think a child being spanked enough to hurt a child would constitute as abuse already?

what, like you think I actually read what you all posted? I havent been on the pc all day and Im not wasting time reading everything. I wanna pad my post count, damnit!