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In responding to this thread, I have two comments.
First, perhaps what we now view as 'racy' has been altered by media trends. We see nudity on TV, in magazines and the movies everytime we turn around. What then, makes lingerie interesting? I imagine, if you were to take certain items from the catalog and toss them back in time 30, or even 20 years, they would be considered oh so scandalous!!!!

Second, I personally do not purchase from VS because I happen to be larger than a size 0-8. Bottom line is that much of VS is not geared to the real woman. I can find much sexier, more comfortable items at other stores.

Sometimes its the mystery of whats under the clothing that is sexy, not the in-your-face look-at-me behavior...
Women today leave nothing to the imagination. It's unfortunate.

Edited, Nov 28th 2007 5:04pm by eleana

I just looked at the "Very Sexy" page at VS. I must say I'm not impressed.

One of the things I liked about their products in the past was that the bras were so pretty. I mean, nobody else was selling velvet bras with beautiful embroidered decorations on them.

Now I'd agree & stick with the department stores. They got on the bandwagon and realized women really do like pretty frillies sometimes. Only other stores charge a fraction of what VS does, so what's the advantage at this point?



Ha ha Patrician. Grundies. I thought that was a word my family made up!

I have that in black.

I'm just big-boned, dammit!

Feast on the double-entendre opportunities!

Your assessments of a woman's body are not realistic. I haven't fit into a size 8 since shortly after puberty, and I was not fat through my school days. Of course I was convinced I was since I didn't and never will have the body of a ballerina.

A woman who is size 10 or 12 is not facing serious health issues due to her weight. That's just a nonsense statement.

The whole "real woman" advertising thing was an admission by retailers that we're not all size 8 or under and responding to the frustration of larger women having only "grandma" clothes in their size for choices.

Haha, Yan-Yan. I posted before I even read your reply, but you hit the nail on your head. Most men haven't the slightest what size women wear. Frankly, it's irrelevant as long as the fit is good. Queen Latifah can look lovely and healthy and glowing, while Gwyneth Paltrow always looks like she's hovering on the brink of anemia.

You people are harsh.

And wrong.


I really feel for your girlfriends.

Edited, Nov 30th 2007 12:34pm by eleana

Thank you. I am trying to remain the lady that I am and choose not to get into a flame war with anyone whose attitude is that unimportant. Too bad you saw it before I came to my senses.

Oh, well, no harm done. Circumnaviation hug?

A woman who is size 10 or 12 is not facing serious health issues due to her weight. That's just a nonsense statement.


Blah blah blah. Yes, I am unfamiliar with women's sizes. Perhaps a size 8 is much smaller than I thought. Regardless, many, many women in the US are overweight to the point of risking their health and many of them have bought into this ludicrous proposition that you can either be an unhealthy anorexic slave to an unrealistic ideal or just not give a **** because you have self esteem.

Both are equally dangerous. I smoke. I eat too much. I drink 12 cups of coffee a day. I don't sleep enough. I haven't gone running in a year. What I don't do is proclaim that I'm a "real man" because of this as if it was some sort of badge of honor, nor do I feel somehow slighted by the media's standards of male beauty.

In short, I was wrong to make a throw away statement about wearing some arbitrary size that I have no concept of, but that in no way changes the point that there is a developing culture of unhealthily overweight women celebrating that fact as if it were some sort of accomplishment.

Allthough I hear they do make the rockin world go round.

I blame the blacks. African-American women were on the "I'm a real woman!" power-wagon years before Dove realized that they could sell more soap by photographing average middle-aged broads in their underwear.

Edited, Nov 30th 2007 11:57am by Jophiel

Geez, leave something to the imagination, would ya?

You mean Tare? That was in August.

Nexa