Maybe if someone had watch this kid's YouTube videoFollow

I hope you're not serious about these statements?!

I have never seen Deathnote, and I actually laughed that there is a movie called "Idiocracy"(Seriously, is there one? lol). But I do agree with some of this kids points he made. The kid was a little loony, but he was partially on the right track with some of his thoughts. Sit back and watch humanity on mass for awhile, to see why.

To blame TV or the kids parents, is the easy way out. Plain and simple.

I don't doubt that he did come up with those on his own(if Lobsters post is correct). To sit there and say that someone can't think for themselves, is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. **** even the poster children of the followers think for themselves every once and awhile. It's just that the followers decide that the person they are following's word/action is worth more then theirs.

So should I blame TV and your parents for your dumb comments??? Because if you're correct, apparently you can't think for yourself either.

You can't blame TV and some kids parents for one thing and not for another. Just because it's convenient.

And if you say my above statement is false, think of it this way: You can't have it both ways! If you want to blame TV or some kids parents on how they act, then it applies to every aspect of their life. Not just what they did wrong. Sure they had an impact in the kids life. TV and ppl's parents impact everyone, who has both in their lives. But everything you come into contact with has an impact on your life. Such as your Worldview. You can't just blame one aspect for what happened and be done with it, that's just complete stupidity. >.>

/stupid rant off.

You know, joking aside, if you truly find a speck of cohesiveness in this point of view, you should run, not walk to a psychiatrist.

No one is saying that he wasn't different, but different in a way that makes you harm yourself is one thing, and different in the way that makes you assign blame to others for your lot in life to the point where you decide you need to end theirs is just morally, emotionally, and intellectually skewed. You don't need to be stupid, but you are, in fact, not sane.

I was half-kidding about blaming TV and his parents, otherwise I was being completely serious.

There is a movie called Idiocracy-- it's not that old, and a large portion of his "manifesto" is basically the plot summary for that movie. Furthermore, his monologue is very similar to the monologue of the main character from Death Note. I suspect that it's at least very plausible that at his age, he has seen both of these, and if he has, then half of his manifesto is basically plagiarized and therefor the exact opposite of original thinking, not that it was especially original otherwise.

I'm not bothering to read all of your stupid rant because half of it didn't even seem to apply to the point I was making. What I will say is that people are heavily influenced by their environment and true creativity is essentially nonexistant. Almost all things are inspired by something else, and unless you can prove to me that this kid was living under a ******* rock, I don't believe for one second that his thoughts were the result of his creativity, intellectual superiority, existentialism, or what have you.



According to my understanding of the news report, he knocked on doors and shot whoever came to the door. He had no way of knowing that he wasn't killing off one of his so-called 3% of enlightened comrades or another mindless lemming. At least some of the killings were totally random and that does not make him a champion of his own brand of justice... that makes him just another teenage serial killer.

Even I have thought at times that perhaps any sense of morality or purpose is lost on this wretched world. The sensible conclusions one might draw from these philosophies are that one should kill themself, or that one should be completely self-centered and indulge only in their own existence. This kid-- his entire manifesto culminates in a non sequitur.

Unfortunately psychology is very subjective in the sense that no one can crawl into a crazy bastage's head and figure out why he's such a crazy bastage.

I find it interesting that I share a few view points with that guy, though I don't believe it's my responsibility to change the world. I'm rather content distancing myself from most of it.

I'm not sure why he thought that was a proper action to take though. If he was really that dead set on doing something about it I'm suprised he didn't keep going on to being one of the manipulater's and maybe try to orchestrate a global war or something.

For that reason I'm more likely to think he took a cop-out when he did the small scale shooting. If he was as highly intelligent as he claimed to be, then we should consider ourselves lucky that he did. Stupid people ruining the world is one thing, a highly intelligent person doing the same thing would probably be a lot more effective at doing it.

Honestly, if I strangled retarded children to death because I thought they were weakening the gene pool, and that humanity needed me to save it, would you call me brave or strong?

Yes. Learn to distinguish between actions you don't agree with and what it takes to carry them out.


Anyone saying that what this kid did was brave needs a kick in the @#%^ing head.

That would be worrying if you had anything approaching the guts to ever actually kick someone in the head. As you don't it makes me laugh and laugh at your virtual vaudevillian prat fall missing the point.

Anyone who kills innocent people is a hero. They're all heros, you know.

Funny, I don't remember the land shark being strapped...

It really doesn't take much to shoot unarmed civilians, does it? Unless you're arguing that immorality is a virtue.



Actually, you're quite right. I'm a pacifist. However, you'll notice I didn't say I would kick you in the head. I said you needed to be kicked in the head. I still believe this. Your pseudointellectual nonsense doesn't mean a thing.

Deviating from the norm and taking a stand doesn't make you strong, it makes you different. Being brave is about standing up against danger. Tell me, sir, what danger is there in shooting unarmed people when you already plan to commit suicide?

I choose to ignore your attacks, because I'm more interested in the discussion at hand than your ego.

That's an incredibly stupid argument. People don't refrain from murder and terrorism because they don't have what it takes, but because they believe it to be wrong. If, at any point, they stop believing it to be wrong, what stops them is fear of punishment. If they plan to kill themselves after they do it, punishment is no longer a factor.

He didn't do this before he planned to kill himself. Why? I guarantee you, it was because he was afraid of the repercussions. What's so strong about that?

I understand that you fancy yourself the brilliant brain, but not everyone is so simple-minded as you seem to think. Many people refrain from murder because of a moral imperative. Believe it or not, sometimes people have every opportunity and incentive to do things that are morally black, and the only thing that keeps them in the white is a matter of principle.

What you're describing is little more than simple behaviorism, and while it's a valid theory, it has shown time and again to have failings when applied to human beings.



No he didn't. At least not in any meaningful way. The extent to which he achieved his goal is like me hitting the "post message" button and saying, "I WIN. WATCH AS I USE MY POWERS OF MOTOR CONTROL TO CHANGE THE WORLD." He identified a problem, and not only did he not solve it, but managed to exacerbate it. At least where I come from, that is not a victory.

The kid was a failure in the purest meaning of the word, even aside from his mailed fission. The closest thing human beings have to a meaning in this world is the attainment of happiness-- something at which he very obviously failed miserably.

Anyway, I highly suggest you seek some kind of therapy, because at this point you're being nonsensical-- and if not on the verge of self-destructive behavior, at least far too damn pessimistic for anyone's good.

Amazing how he managed to respond to almost everything I said while refraining from making any valid points.

I'll give you one thing Smash, you've managed to support your own claim that people are very effective at inducing self-delusions.


Furthermore, if you don't classify your position as behavioristic, I'm curious to know what theory it does belong to. Maybe someone needs to go back to Psych 101, eh?



Well, you're not the first person to demonstrate the limits of their intelligence with such a fallacious presumption. Unbridled, selfish hedonism is not necessarily the equivalent of aiming to attain happiness.

But really, I'm curious to know what your standard for life is that you consider this kid a success yet claim that a life of indulgence is laughable.

Personal note: Your sanctimony-laced ignorance would be a bit less insufferable if you weren't such an *** about it, but then I'm sure you'd say the same of me.