Totem wrote:
Instead, nothing has come from it, no firings, no procedural changes, no nothing.
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Well, investigations have come from it.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Yes, investigations have come from it, but so far that equates to nothing. The Air Force Times hasn't had anything on it, and this is the one publication which would keep a close watch on the proceedings, if for no other reason than professional interest.
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Yes, investigations have come from it, but so far that equates to nothing.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Great thread. Conspiracy theory with the dull ring of truth at the end. It's one thing to know that the US has tons of nukes; it's got to be quite another to know they're loading them up on planes and heading your way.
Boomers and silos just don't have quite that impact unless they're actually deployed.
Bombing runs in Iraq were consistently flown out of the US during both Gulf wars; refueled in flight, make the trip, drop ordinance, refuel in flight and come back home.
That's a long way to be able to reach out and touch someone.
Boomers and silos just don't have quite that impact unless they're actually deployed.
Bombing runs in Iraq were consistently flown out of the US during both Gulf wars; refueled in flight, make the trip, drop ordinance, refuel in flight and come back home.
That's a long way to be able to reach out and touch someone.
I'm not going to comment on the Syria part of this, but to think the cruise missile thing is somehow related would require believing that there aren't already tactical weapons and delivery platforms in theater which, frankly, is absurd in the extreme.
Edited, Oct 12th 2007 5:59pm by Smasharoo
Edited, Oct 12th 2007 5:59pm by Smasharoo
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Edited, Oct 12th 2007 6:57pm by Celcio
Edited, Oct 12th 2007 6:57pm by Celcio
Holy shit. 
Several of those didn't add up to me, or at the least, the fact that I'd heard so little about them on the news didn't add up to me. But putting them all together...
I really hope you're wrong, but I'm not so sure that you are.
Several of those didn't add up to me, or at the least, the fact that I'd heard so little about them on the news didn't add up to me. But putting them all together...
I really hope you're wrong, but I'm not so sure that you are.
Totem wrote:
Another reason for concern is what is kept at Barksdale AFB. It's one thing to fly weapons on an old (even if upgraded) B-52, but the stealth bombers are kept at Barksdale. If a combat sortie involving strategic bombers carrying nuclear weapons were to take place, Barksdale is where it would start out. Note that in peace time (read non-strategic war like WW3, not a regional war like Iraq) nuclear weapons are placed far apart from the delivery systems, hence the Tomahawk missles are stored in North Dakota and the planes to get them to the theater of operations are kept in Lousiana.
I don't post here. Mostly because I think you guys are animals and would quite simply, tear me apart. I'm smart enough to realize that if I don't feel comfortable in a certain forum, I shouldn't post there and make myself an easy target. However, this post intrigues me. I'm inclined to wonder the same things Totem is, not because of what proof we have of the matter, but because of the apparent total lack of attention the media has given the matter.
Even so, Totem, I'm a bit confused by the part of your story I quoted. It doesn't quite jive with me for one reason. The primary home base of the US military's premiere stealth bomber, the B-2, is not Barksdale, but is in fact, Whiteman AFB in Missouri I'm not an expert on Barskdale, or the Air Force in general, but Barskdale is quoted as being "Home to the 2nd Bomb Wing and the Mighty 8th Air Force", composed primarily of B-52 bombers.
My point is that, if indeed we were going to set up some covert nuclear bombing run, why would the U.S government put on a show with the B-52s. Wouldn't an impending strike from a B-2, one which would be almost impossible to defend against, be more effective in driving home the point?
I'm not disappointed that they have managed to keep the media tight on this one. Most Americans are stuttering retards and couldn't be trusted to feed themselves on a regular basis, much less react appropriately to necessary use of force.
My point is that, if indeed we were going to set up some covert nuclear bombing run, why would the U.S government put on a show with the B-52s.
Because no one would notice a show you put on with a B2.
That's the point. If you wanted to apply pressure to someone by intimating that you might be getting your nuclear ducks in a row, doing so in a way they couldn't detect wouldn't be terribly effective.
That said, that's not what happened here.
I'm not disappointed that they have managed to keep the media tight on this one. Most Americans are stuttering retards and couldn't be trusted to feed themselves on a regular basis, much less react appropriately to necessary use of force.
Yes, yes, we all know you're in favor of just being fed things you want to hear without having to think about them. I should think you'd be terribly happy with the US Media really.
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Hmm, after little to no news on the air raid for the last month, I decide to go public with my suspicions yesterday. Guess what? MSNBC didn't like me scooping them so this just came out a few minutes ago:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21282612/
Scary how influencial I am, isn't it?
Totem
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21282612/
Scary how influencial I am, isn't it?
Totem
Totem wrote:
Hmm, after little to no news on the air raid for the last month, I decide to go public with my suspicions yesterday. Guess what? MSNBC didn't like me scooping them so this just came out a few minutes ago:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21282612/
Scary how influencial I am, isn't it?
Totem
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21282612/
Scary how influencial I am, isn't it?
Totem
Totem wrote:
Scary how influencial I am, isn't it?
Nice job, Kreskin
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Stories I linked to....September 29, 2007 and September 19, 2007
MSNBC story...ET Oct. 13, 2007
You guys really need to 'have a word' with your purveyors of important information. They are pretty slack, no?
Meanwhile the rest of the world is back to worrying about what happens in the next coupla months in Pakistan.....
MSNBC story...ET Oct. 13, 2007
You guys really need to 'have a word' with your purveyors of important information. They are pretty slack, no?
Meanwhile the rest of the world is back to worrying about what happens in the next coupla months in Pakistan.....
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
Totem, if a black SUV shows up infront of your house, and you hear someone knock on the door.
You should probably run out the back.
You should probably run out the back.
this goes along with what happened a year ago or so. Israel did something in that part of the world and it was hush hush for some time too.
makes you wounder what exactly is going on over there.
makes you wounder what exactly is going on over there.
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Really, I think you are pulling at straws here. I was in the USAF and I can tell you right now that no matter what goes on there is someone who will mess it up. This goes from the top brass all the way down. I once saw a common supply enlisted man order a B-52 through normal channels. Of course, a couple weeks later he was gone from the USAF, but thing is it did happen and the people all the way up to the top brass had ok'd it.
Nuclear warheads is a whole other level when it comes to security, but trust me when I tell you that the security for them to be loaded on a plane is not as tight as you may think. A couple pencil whipped orders and the wrong items get loaded and that is that.
Now this isn't to say that what you advocate isn't true either. I think the US government would definitely do something like that as a saber rattling measure for the rest of the world to fear. Nothing is improbable (notice I did not say impossible).
You can live your life in fear, worry about everything that has nothing to do with you, or you can make the most of each day and realize that we are all dust in the end no matter what. No one avoids the reaper. I say crack a beer and relax a bit. With the level of panic I detect in your posts about this I would say you will die of a heart attack or something like that long before a nuke goes off.
Really, I think you are pulling at straws here. I was in the USAF and I can tell you right now that no matter what goes on there is someone who will mess it up. This goes from the top brass all the way down. I once saw a common supply enlisted man order a B-52 through normal channels. Of course, a couple weeks later he was gone from the USAF, but thing is it did happen and the people all the way up to the top brass had ok'd it.
Nuclear warheads is a whole other level when it comes to security, but trust me when I tell you that the security for them to be loaded on a plane is not as tight as you may think. A couple pencil whipped orders and the wrong items get loaded and that is that.
Now this isn't to say that what you advocate isn't true either. I think the US government would definitely do something like that as a saber rattling measure for the rest of the world to fear. Nothing is improbable (notice I did not say impossible).
You can live your life in fear, worry about everything that has nothing to do with you, or you can make the most of each day and realize that we are all dust in the end no matter what. No one avoids the reaper. I say crack a beer and relax a bit. With the level of panic I detect in your posts about this I would say you will die of a heart attack or something like that long before a nuke goes off.
DmzAlpha said
"Please help...Im talking in Blue Oyster cult cliches....."
Edited, Oct 14th 2007 9:31pm by paulsol
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You can live your life in fear, worry about everything that has nothing to do with you, or you can make the most of each day and realize that we are all dust in the end no matter what. No one avoids the reaper. I say crack a beer and relax a bit.
"Please help...Im talking in Blue Oyster cult cliches....."
Edited, Oct 14th 2007 9:31pm by paulsol
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
And Kansas cliches...
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