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#1 Oct 12 2007 at 2:32 AM Rating: Good
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Goes to Al Gore!

I haven't seen his film but hey, if they say he deserves it, I'll buy that. Two questions:

1.) Does anyone even care about Nobel Prizes anymore? Besides the winners?

2.) Do you recycle?

For me, I have to admit that I enjoy hearing about Nobel prize winners, which is odd because most often I have no idea who they are. I listened to an entire radio program on Doris Lessing yesterday just because she won the lit award, but I've never read any of her stuff. /shrug

And yes, I recycle. I recycle too much, it seems. I always have 5 times the amount of recycling my neighbors have. So, either I'm a gluttonous pig or the old ******* that live around here aren't doing their part. Smiley: mad



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#2 Oct 12 2007 at 4:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Does anyone even care about Nobel Prizes anymore? Besides the winners?
I'd assume that they mean more when they are within your actual field such as the Nobel Prize for Literature or Chemistry or whatever. Dunno about "Peace" though -- that's more of a public perception thing, I suppose.
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#3 Oct 12 2007 at 5:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I listened to an editorial this am that was all about getting Al Gore on the ballot for democratic presidential nominee, that he could be the parties knight in shiny armor, galloping in on his white horse at the final hour to save the party from sure defeat.

What do you dems think?

Does winning the nobel peace prize make Gore a more viable canidate for president than the other front-runners (Clinton, Obama, Edwards)?

Al for Pres in 08?
No way:22 (61.1%)
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Geek wannabe!!:4 (11.1%)
He's our man:6 (16.7%)
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#4 Oct 12 2007 at 5:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nah. I think Gore is a little like another Peace Prize awardee, Jimmy Carter. They make a greater impact when they can pursue their agendas without the constraints of political office.
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#5 Oct 12 2007 at 7:32 AM Rating: Decent
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1. Not really. I mean, ****, they gave it to Al Gore.
2. Yes. Everything.

Al Gore is a tard.
#6 Oct 12 2007 at 7:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Nobel Prizes looks nice on your resume.

Everyone recycles everything, even if they don't intend to. Its just basic physics.
#7 Oct 12 2007 at 8:48 AM Rating: Good
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1. No
2. I do recycle my beer bottles. That's about it.
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#8 Oct 12 2007 at 8:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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Someone always whines about whoever wins.

I was more interested in reading about Doris Lessing, actually. A fellow writer actually criticized her getting the prize because (paraphrased) she's too hard to read.

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#9 Oct 12 2007 at 8:55 AM Rating: Decent
1. Yes. Unfortunately I'm still keeping up on current events and those who shape the politics around us.

2. I recycle aluminum, and that's it. That's the only material currently recycled that is more energy efficient to recycle than it is to create new.
#10 Oct 12 2007 at 8:55 AM Rating: Good
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Just remember, they gave a Nobel Peace Prize to Yasser Arafat too. That speaks volumes about how discerning the judges are in dispensing cash to supposedly worthy recipients.

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Edited, Oct 12th 2007 12:56pm by Totem
#11 Oct 12 2007 at 9:02 AM Rating: Good
1. Only when they give it to the right people. Linking Gore and "peace" is stretching the concept to an almost meaningless level.

2. Plastic, paper, cardboard, glass, all these kinds of things. The UK is only slowly getting to grips with recycling, though my Council is still actively trying to discourage this evil practice.
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#12 Oct 12 2007 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Samira wrote:
Someone always whines about whoever wins.

I was more interested in reading about Doris Lessing, actually. A fellow writer actually criticized her getting the prize because (paraphrased) she's too hard to read.



I love some of the quotes she made, essentially giving the finger to the panel.

Too lazy to quote.
#14 Oct 12 2007 at 9:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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And that about sums THAT up!
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Monsieur RedPhoenixxx wrote:
1. Only when they give it to the right people. Linking Gore and "peace" is stretching the concept to an almost meaningless level.
No worse really than last year's winner who was that couple granting microloans in India. While helping basketweavers make their start is a noble cause, it's not really bringing mankind together any more than fighting global warming is.



Or, while it's a noble cause, it's not a Nobel cause. I'll be here all weekend.
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#16 Oct 12 2007 at 10:02 AM Rating: Good
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Agree that the Peace prize is as relevant as curtain polypropylene earwig.

Also agree that Doris Lessing is an amazing writer and an entertaining person to hear.

As for recycling, I recycle all my beer. One it's passed through my system I put it in Budweiser bottles and sell it to yanks
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#17 Oct 13 2007 at 5:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm always interested in the Nobel prizes as informing me about some people who have achieved something outstanding in their field.

While the other prizes are awarded for a concrete brilliant creation, the Peace prize always was a lot more fuzzy to quantify. However, the Peace prize is pretty much the most important prize in Nobel's intentions.

Nobel made a fortune out of inventing a certain type of explosives. While his type of explosives are used in mining, construction and to put out oil-well fires, he was painfully aware that they are also used extensively in war and other killing-people activities.

Putting a huge sum of money into a trust for expensive prizes was a conscious guilt-salving mechanism for him. The prizes were intended to foster the best of what humanity can do for each other, in the face of the reality that he helped make the Earth a more dangerous place. The peace prize is a bravely optimistic hope that fighting can be headed off, or curtailed, and the use of explosives to kill people can be reduced.

There is one clear reason to me why the judges possibly awarded the Peace Prize to people who are driving the effort to halt Anthropomorphic Global Warming.

Economic and Political analysts have made clear warnings that if some of the future scenarios of AGW happen, certain resources will be so scarce in some parts of the world, that international wars will almost be inevitable over possession of those resources. I'm guessing that the judges are taking those scenarios very seriously, and believe that Al Gore's and the IPCC's present work are the most effective or important work in heading off future resource wars.

I bet Nobel would be very happy with rewarding the effort for future wars averted, as well as rewarding war halted.



Edited, Oct 13th 2007 9:56am by Aripyanfar
#18 Oct 13 2007 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Also agree that Doris Lessing is an amazing writer and an entertaining person to hear.


Meh.

I don't hate her, but come on, when does Thomas Pynchon get one? Comparing the two bodies of work for what essentially was a lifetime achievement award is laughable.
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#19 Oct 13 2007 at 11:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Also agree that Doris Lessing is an amazing writer and an entertaining person to hear.


Meh.

I don't hate her, but come on, when does Thomas Pynchon get one? Comparing the two bodies of work for what essentially was a lifetime achievement award is laughable.


No argument from me. I <3 Pynchon.

Lessing's much more engaging as a speaker than a writer, as it turns out.
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#20 Oct 13 2007 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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#21 Oct 13 2007 at 8:36 PM Rating: Good
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You know, since algore invented the Nobel Peace Prize, it's about time they finally gave him one. Just sayin'.

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Totem wrote:
You know, since algore invented the Nobel Peace Prize, it's about time they finally gave him one. Just sayin'.

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Snopes debunks the urban legend that he claims to have invented the internet:

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

Having trouble copypasting the text for you, but I can get you some of it.

The gist of the article is that Al Gore used an unfortunate phrase to condense his legislative role in making possible the internet in the form that we know it today, to fit into a brief media time-slot, and then the media has extensively misquoted him ever since. He did use the phrase "I took the initiative in creating the internet". There is a crucial difference in the meaning of creation as opposed to invention. As far as the legalities of the situation go, Al Gore DID "create" the internet.

He didn't invent any of the technology, he wrote and tabelled the legislation that permitted and created the original nationwide linkage of all university and library computers. This is one of the major activities that provided one of the major nuclei of the nascent internet. This effect in the creation of the internet was later exponentially grown by later legislation that he was also one of the major players in, which permitted commercial use inside what had been an exclusively academic network.

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...It is true, though, that Gore was popularizing the term "information superhighway" in the early 1990s (although he did not, as is often claimed by others, coin the phrase himself) when few people outside academia or the computer/defense industries had heard of the Internet, and he sponsored the 1988 National High-Performance Computer Act (which established a national computing plan and helped link universities and libraries via a shared network) and cosponsored the Information Infrastructure and Technology Act of 1992 (which opened the Internet to commercial traffic).

In May 2005, the organizers of the Webby Awards for online achievements honored Al Gore with a lifetime achievement award for three decades of contributions to the Internet. "He is indeed due some thanks and consideration for his early contributions," said Vint Cerf.


The internet was created out of the mass effect of individuals connecting computers worldwide. Legislation was needed governing the permitted usage of government owned or controlled computers, and that at that time those government controlled computers were either a massive block or an outright majority of

1. Existing hard drive space in the world,
2. Existing information loaded into computers,
3. Existing individual computers in the world.

This legislation had a huge real world effect on a process that was going to happen in some way or another. Al Gore was the major driver behind this legislation. If it wasn't for Al Gore, we would have wound up with the internet anyway, but it might not have gotten to it's present form nearly as quickly, or it may have some difference in the form to the one it has today.

He was the Nerd in Congress, and he moved things for all the nerds and technical boffins out there. Then the rest of the public inherited the results.





Edited, Oct 14th 2007 1:39am by Aripyanfar

Edited, Oct 14th 2007 2:33am by Aripyanfar
#23 Oct 13 2007 at 9:35 PM Rating: Good
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Pffft. WGARA. Reality has absolutely nothing to do with mocking that bloated dweeb. Besides, I never mentioned the interwebs.

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Edited, Oct 14th 2007 1:37am by Totem
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Pffft. WGARA. Reality has absolutely nothing to do with mocking that bloated dweeb. Besides, I never mentioned the interwebs.

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Edited, Oct 14th 2007 1:37am by Totem

I know you did. You know you did. We all know you did. Protesting reality with that innocent look on your face makes you look cute. But still a victim of media misinformation. Smiley: grin
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:D

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I know you did. You know you did. We all know you did.


I knew he was making a joke, you knew he was making a joke, we all knew he was making a joke. Some of us, apparently, are idiotic pedantic ***** who point out the rhetorical lack of veracity in throw away one liners.

I know you're a dim witted simpleton, you know..etc.

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