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#27 Oct 09 2007 at 7:01 AM Rating: Decent
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It's not prostitution if you're paid in goods instead of cash?

Good to know.


Yes, but only in Thailand, Singapore, and Hong Kong.
#28 Oct 09 2007 at 7:02 AM Rating: Good
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So the difference I see so far is that most guys would not go to a prostitute as they are dirty and disease ridden, but most guys would hit a **** star.

Edited, Oct 9th 2007 11:03am by fhrugby
#29 Oct 09 2007 at 7:03 AM Rating: Decent
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So the difference I see so far is that most guys would not not go to a prostitute as they are dirty and disease ridden, but most guys would hit a **** star.


Any real man would flush said moral problems in the morning with the rest of the days worries.
#30 Oct 09 2007 at 7:08 AM Rating: Good
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No need for the quotes; either sex for material rewards is prostitution or it isn't.


Totally, but being a prostitute implies having made a career out of it, not just having done it once when drunk in college.



Edited, Oct 9th 2007 3:08pm by RedPhoenixxx
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#31 Oct 09 2007 at 7:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well then at least we could agree that, at the moment of the act, she's the same?
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#32 Oct 09 2007 at 7:17 AM Rating: Good
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Well then at least we could agree that, at the moment of the act, she's the same?


Absolutely.

Real prostitutes can at least claim to be on crack. Much better excuse.
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#33 Oct 09 2007 at 7:23 AM Rating: Decent
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It's not prostitution if you're only getting paid for sex the one time?


Wouldn't that be like calling someone an alcoholic for one drink?

Certainly the action is the same, but lifestyles vary greatly.
#34 Oct 09 2007 at 7:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's not prostitution if you're only getting paid for sex the one time?
Wouldn't that be like calling someone an alcoholic for one drink?
Or calling someone an arsonist after they only burned down one building!
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#35 Oct 09 2007 at 7:37 AM Rating: Good
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It's not prostitution if you're only getting paid for sex the one time?
Wouldn't that be like calling someone an alcoholic for one drink?
Or calling someone an arsonist after they only burned down one building!


But what if the government said they could burn down that building?
#36 Oct 09 2007 at 7:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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More to the point, what if the government said it was okay to accept payment for sex?
Illinois Criminal Code Sec 11-14 wrote:
Prostitution.

(a) Any person who performs, offers or agrees to perform any act of sexual penetration as defined in Section 12-12 of this Code for any money, property, token, object, or article or anything of value, or any touching or fondling of the sex organs of one person by another person, for any money, property, token, object, or article or anything of value, for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification commits an act of prostitution.
Your milage may vary by state.
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#37 Oct 09 2007 at 7:54 AM Rating: Excellent
The main difference between hookers and pornstars is that nobody gets paid to fUck hookers.
#38 Oct 09 2007 at 7:56 AM Rating: Decent
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**** stars are not ******** some random john. So, in my opinion at least, it makes it a healthier career choice...so different.
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#39 Oct 09 2007 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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fhrugby the Sly wrote:
So the difference I see so far is that most guys would not go to a prostitute as they are dirty and disease ridden, but most guys would hit a **** star.

Edited, Oct 9th 2007 11:03am by fhrugby

In countries where prostitution is regulated, the ladies have to go through regular medical checkups (it varies, but monthly checkups are common) and are more inclined to protect themselves and the customers from spread of any STD's. If that were the case in the US, I would be more open to visiting said professional for services. As for **** stars, from what I hear many production studios have contracts with their "stars" and require checkups and protection during filming is also a requirement.

That being said, I'd be more inclined to get with a **** star than a prostitute, as at least with a **** star there is some regulation and care taken.

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#40 Oct 09 2007 at 8:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
The main difference between hookers and pornstars is that nobody gets paid to fUck hookers.


Bingo.
#41 Oct 09 2007 at 8:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Kakar, Assassin Reject wrote:

In countries where prostitution is regulated, the ladies have to go through regular medical checkups (it varies, but monthly checkups are common) and are more inclined to protect themselves and the customers from spread of any STD's. If that were the case in the US, I would be more open to visiting said professional for services. As for **** stars, from what I hear many production studios have contracts with their "stars" and require checkups and protection during filming is also a requirement.



Exactly, so in the first case, the prostitute is likely to catch a STD, but hopefully it will be diagnosed and treated. In the second case, the **** star is much less likely to get an STD to begin with (at least from making ****).

Edited, Oct 9th 2007 6:05pm by Elinda
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#42 Oct 09 2007 at 8:08 AM Rating: Default
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The Camembert option tickled me like it should not have.
Lord, that stuff is awful.
I'll take a nice havarti any day.


I'm liking you more and more!


Camembert, like blue vein cheese, makes me want to vomit.

But I really, truly, actually have a round of havarti on my desk right now, on a plate, with a small sharp knife. Havarti needs no other accompaniment. I have been slicing off a little, then slowly sucking it until it dissolves into cream on my tongue.


Edited, Oct 9th 2007 8:54am by Aripyanfar


I suppose the Havarti I tried must have been packaged poorly or something. It tasted like dried-up Swiss to me.

I once tasted Camembert, and I too wished to "refund" it.

I'll take a nice, mild Gouda any day.
#43 Oct 09 2007 at 8:27 AM Rating: Good
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Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
The main difference between hookers and pornstars is that nobody gets paid to fUck hookers.


Succint and to the point.

I applaud you.
#44 Oct 09 2007 at 8:57 AM Rating: Good
There's a big difference between the two:

With pornstars, you are watching them get laid on a television screen. There is no sexual connection at all between you and the **** star. In all likelyhood, she probably doesn't know you exist.

With prostitutes, you are actually GETTING laid. There is a definite sexual connection between you and the prostitute. Chances are she notices that she's having sex with you.

The work is similiar, but yet are different branches of the sex industry (both legal and illegal).

Edited, Oct 9th 2007 12:59pm by Nightsintdreams
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#45 Oct 09 2007 at 9:09 AM Rating: Good
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There's a big difference between the two:

With pornstars, you are watching them get laid on a television screen. There is no sexual connection at all between you and the **** star. In all likelyhood, she probably doesn't know you exist.

With prostitutes, you are actually GETTING laid. There is a definite sexual connection between you and the prostitute. Chances are she notices that she's having sex with you.

The work is similiar, but yet are different branches of the sex industry (both legal and illegal).


You're a simple-minded pervert. Not everything revolves around your direct relationship with it.
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Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
[You're a simple-minded pervert. Not everything revolves around your direct relationship with it.
Smiley: nod There is no "I" in pervert!!
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#47 Oct 09 2007 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
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Monsieur RedPhoenixxx wrote:
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free prostitutes


Isn't that a paradox?

No it's an oxymoron
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#48 Oct 09 2007 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Monsieur RedPhoenixxx wrote:
tarubstchef wrote:
free prostitutes


Isn't that a paradox?

No it's an oxymoron
It could be free because you've filled up your Frequent-F*cker Club Card. In which case it wouldn't be either.
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#49 Oct 09 2007 at 9:47 AM Rating: Good
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
The main difference between hookers and pornstars is that nobody gets paid to fUck hookers.


So, you're saying that pornstars are hot and hookers ugly?

Otherwise, how does that make any difference to the person getting screwed? She's still selling her body for the sexual gratification of someone else, or a few of them in ****'s case.

Who's doing the paying doesn't really change much.
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#50 Oct 09 2007 at 9:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
The main difference between hookers and pornstars is that nobody gets paid to fUck hookers.


So, you're saying that pornstars are hot and hookers ugly?


Explain yourself before I call you a fUcking idiot. Nothing in my one sentence touches upon the physical attractiveness of either. Hell, if I were an obtuse cUnt I might read the exact opposite into my statement, since apparently people require compensation to bang pornstars.

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Otherwise, how does that make any difference to the person getting screwed? She's still selling her body for the sexual gratification of someone else, or a few of them in ****'s case.


Well, you're a simple-minded pervert, too, but in a different way. What's with the assumption, first of all, that all whores and pornstars are female? Ask Bhodi, a guy can make a decent living giving head in the back of the bar. And yeah, they're selling their sexuality for the pleasure of others, but that doesn't neccessarily mean they aren't enjoying it themselves, too.

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Who's doing the paying doesn't really change much.


Well no sh*t, but who's getting paid, while not changing things pragmatically, is what makes **** different than prostitution, in the most basic sense.

Unless we're talking about amateur ****, where nobody is getting paid. Then it's just white-hot fUcking caught on tape and there ain't nothing wrong with that.

Edited, Oct 9th 2007 11:11am by Barkingturtle
#51 Oct 09 2007 at 10:41 AM Rating: Good
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Explain yourself before I call you a fUcking idiot.


You could've meant that because pornstars are hot, people pay to watch them get fUcked, whereas prostitutes, no one cares.

I wasn't sure what you meant, so I asked. But you can still call me a fUcking idiot, cos as you'll see further down, I'm still not sure I get it. Smiley: glare

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What's with the assumption, first of all, that all whores and pornstars are female?


Well I had to make a choice between he and she, so I went for the majority. I'm not that ignorant to assume that either is a loose version of the Women's Institute.

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And yeah, they're selling their sexuality for the pleasure of others, but that doesn't neccessarily mean they aren't enjoying it themselves, too.


True, but I think we both know that in the vast majority of prostitution cases around the world the prostitute in question isn't enjoying herself (or himself) in the process. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but surely they're rare cases. I think the same is true in 90% of the regular ****.

But anyway,

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Well no sh*t, but who's getting paid, while not changing things pragmatically, is what makes **** different than prostitution, in the most basic sense.


Because both are "professionals"?

If that's the case, yeah, I see what you mean. And I agree it can help rationalise it, though, really, it still doesn't really change the fundamentals. It's not different to paying two hookers to watch them have sex with each other. And I think that would still be prostitution.


Edited, Oct 9th 2007 6:42pm by RedPhoenixxx
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