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#27 Sep 18 2007 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
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He was a guest at Balticon a few years back.
Nice guy for meeting at a con.

He was working on book 11. It has a strong outline/notes and will be finished by someone to be named.
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#28 Sep 18 2007 at 12:58 PM Rating: Decent
When you drone on that long, as the Wheel of Time series does, you're not telling a story any more. You're inviting people to live in your world. I quit about book 7, but I'm still curious how it turns out.

Whatever the ending turns out to be, I'm certain he could have wrapped it up in vastly fewer words.

He's an artist, and has the freedom to do this. I've quit. I'm certain lots of others have, too.
#29 Sep 18 2007 at 1:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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yossarian wrote:
When you drone on that long, as the Wheel of Time series does, you're not telling a story any more. You're milking it for all it's worth.


Fixed.

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#30 Sep 18 2007 at 2:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Maybe, but I think he just fell in love with his own creation and got a little out of hand with it all.

Either way, he would have benefited from a good editor.
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#31 Sep 18 2007 at 2:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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that or a paper cutter.
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#32 Sep 18 2007 at 2:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Could have been worse.

Gawd, can you imagine if Thomas Wolfe had been cranking out serial fantasy novels?
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#33 Sep 18 2007 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
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You misspelled Aviendha!


How do you know she didn't die and come back with a different name?




Not a very discreet one at that
#34 Sep 18 2007 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
Nexa wrote:
yossarian wrote:
When you drone on that long, as the Wheel of Time series does, you're not telling a story any more. You're milking it for all it's worth.


Fixed.

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Well, ya, I'm way too nice. As I see it, he had a legitimate chance to start a new genre: the plot-thin novel. You don't advance the plot to conclude the tensions. You *live* in the world delving into minutia of everyday life.

There is a reason this would be "new": it's intimately connected to the fact most readers won't put up with it.

The way I see it, he worked long and hard to satisfy people who actually wanted that, as a result.
#35 Sep 19 2007 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
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Great...now I need an encyclopedia AND a fortune teller to read the rest of the WOT series (I also quit after book 8.)
#36 Sep 19 2007 at 10:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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TWOT series.

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#37 Sep 22 2007 at 5:15 AM Rating: Decent
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if the dosy Pillock had wrote the story in 10 books it would have been

a: finished before he kicked the bucket.

b. better, can anyone honestly say that the 5 chapters talking about the clothes various female charicters where dressed in that seemed to start off books 8-->11 moved the story in anyway?

c. more of a cash cow since he could have wrote a prequal (oohh wait he wrote the prequal, but didn't finish the main story...) detailing the events leading to the first book.
#38 Sep 22 2007 at 12:23 PM Rating: Decent
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It seemed to me that the first half of each book did nothing but recount the events of the previous book and give a bit more insight into the political and cultural structure of the world in which the series is set. The second half, in some cases, offered a bit of plot continuance - though not always. Jordan spent far too much time elaborating on irrelevant details - he makes Stephen King (or, for that matter, gbaji) look concise.
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#39 Sep 22 2007 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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Why couldn't the guy that writes (and I use the term loosely) the Wizards 1st Rule series have died? I mean the first book or two was ok, for trash fantasy. Then it slowly went downhill until it eventually became the most blatantly bash you over the head propaganda against communism and pacisifism, 10+ years after the fall of the USSR.

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#40 Sep 24 2007 at 1:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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I got one of his books in a white elephant gift exchange. I tried to read it at least 4 times, but never did get past the introduction chapter. That was supposed to be one of the good ones too, haha!
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#41 Sep 24 2007 at 4:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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Archfiend bodhisattva wrote:
Why couldn't the guy that writes (and I use the term loosely) the Wizards 1st Rule series have died? I mean the first book or two was ok, for trash fantasy. Then it slowly went downhill until it eventually became the most blatantly bash you over the head propaganda against communism and pacisifism, 10+ years after the fall of the USSR.



Oh, gods, yes. Once he sort of slid off into sadomasochism as redemption, thence to objectivism as a really nifty motif to move the series along.... bitCh, please. Just admit your little sexual peccadilloes and your smug sense of superiority in meat space and stop inflicting them on unsuspecting readers.
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#42 Sep 24 2007 at 5:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, Faith of the Fallen was a laughable diatribe against communism. Well, it was funny at first, but then got ridiculously boring. It was, I think, the 5th book in the Goodkind series and I never read another one after that.

Nice enough guy in person though. I met him at a book signing where I was getting one of the books signed for a gift for my father. When I told him to make it out to my dad, he looked at me and said, "You don't want me to sign one for you?" I said that I read them as well, but I only had enough money for one book that day, haha. He then dug up a bookmark and signed it for me, it was really cute. The photo of him on his bookjackets makes him look like some big, beefy guy, but he's really tiny and almost sickly looking.

Maybe he's got cancer too, bhodi, you may be in luck.

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#43 Sep 24 2007 at 6:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Too much to hope for. He'd probably just lost some blood due to forgetting his safe word.
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