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#1 Sep 10 2007 at 9:04 AM Rating: Good
Mid-Saturday, my wife and I came up from the gameroom downstairs in what would seem just the right time. Upon entering the kitchen, my wife noticed something "alarming" in the front yard, which followed with a "holy shit!" Upon looking out, I notice a 68 Camaro parked in the middle of my front yard.

Of course, it wasn't "parked" there. The gentleman (I use this term loosely) driving apparently lost control of his vehicle due to a wetspot in the road and found his way into my lawn, pulling a 360 degree spin (180 in the road, 180 in my yard). Might I add also missing a phone poll and a tree in my yard both by nearly 12 inches. So upon rushing outside, assuming this guy could possibly be hurt I tell my wife to call the police and report it while I check things out.

Of course, once I get outside, I further realize the gravity of the situation. Traffic is stopped to a halt on a rather 'busy' main road (Six Flags is about 1.5 miles south on the same road) and as I step onto my porch, I hear him fire up his engine and start pulling away. So I politely yell "What the f**k are you doing?" as he begins to pull out into traffic without even thinking about what other vehicles are in the road. I immediately run up behind and catch the plate number, as well as a description of the guy who, unfortunately, is half dressed and not very 'purdy' if you know what I mean, as well as (from the driving) rather drunk. This guy tears away, while it's obvious he's damaged his vehicle since one of his rear tires are off the seam and the front end is obviously damaged. I say "tear" away, while it sounds like this and seems like this, but in reality after about 50 ft he can't go faster than 35 mph (what a getaway!)

So I go inside, take the phone from my wife and relay all the information to the local authorities. I spend the next 25 minutes waiting for a cruiser to show up and take my report. I go to inspect my lawn to find it rather torn to shit. When the police officer arrives, he informs me they caught him (not too far down the street where the genius had to park because of vehicle damage). However they claim that he is "not" drunk or under the influence. They also tell me he claims he works for a landscaping service and will be by tomorrow to fix the mess. I snarl at the officer, and get a little irrate as it's obvious this guy likely got off without a slap on the wrist. I told the officer I thought it was rather absurd that someone should be allowed to damage personal property and not at least get a ticket or further punishment. So I ask, what do you think should have happened to this 'primo' specimen of a human being?

What shall thy punishment be?
Ticket & Vehicle Impound:0 (0.0%)
At least retained for reckless driving:8 (33.3%)
Warning:1 (4.2%)
Ticket/Arrested for vandalism:9 (37.5%)
A swift kick in the nuts by yours truely:6 (25.0%)
Total:24


Let me further elaborate quickly to help you visualize the issue. It had rained maybe 30-45 minutes prior to the accident, but only a sprinkle. I live on a "very" main road, however it's straight as a freakin' arrow with no bends or turns at all. There are numerous side streets where traffic tends to break, as well as myself living on the corner of the street entrance to the Senior Housing section where there's often someone of, we'll say "post-70" age trying to make the turn at an alarmingly slow rate. My front yard is rather big, and I might add that we play with our 1 year old daughter in both front, back, and side yard rather often. We have no fence or landscaping where the damage was done, however if there had been anything there it would surely be destroyed. Had my wife and daughter been in the yard playing, they surely could have possibly been injured. He was going fast, from the look of it, since he managed to damage approximately 100 ft of my front yard in his final 180 degrees of his spin.

I'm curious what people would expect as a result of this, from a "crime vs. punishment" point of view. I understand, clearly, that the nature of the problem is an accident. However it's no accident that this guy clearly and immediately took off to try to avoid any punishment, turning it in my honest opinion into an act of vandalism rather than a simple accident.

Edited, Sep 10th 2007 1:05pm by Ryneguy

Edited, Sep 10th 2007 1:08pm by Ryneguy
#2 Sep 10 2007 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
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I am sure they are going to lock him up and take away the key! Dangerous criminals such as him need to be sent for a long stretch in the poke

If you get the work done great, if not take him to small claims court. I am sure having the officers report that the man left the scene of the accident and promised compensation will help. Assuming that it is under 5k worth of damage.
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#3 Sep 10 2007 at 9:33 AM Rating: Decent
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The problem is there's no accident. He didn't actually hit anything so there's not much the police can do. I'd be surprised if the guy actually shows up to fix your lawn.
#4 Sep 10 2007 at 9:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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I voted reckless driving. If the officers say he wasn't impaired I'd tend to believe them; however if you have serious doubts spend some money on an investigator to see if there's a relationship between the driver and the local police force, if you're really curious.

There are other causes for impairment besides being drunk, but all of the medical reasons that I know about are grounds for having one's license revoked at least temporarily.
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#5 Sep 10 2007 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
It's probably less than 2k worth of damages. The majority of the cost to fix would probably be labor rather than actual materials.

I'm not claiming he's a criminal that deserves serious punishment...but seriously, if it had been some teenager or even someone of my age in my late 20's driving a car like that, did some property damage and left the scene, surely it would have been taken a little more seriously. IMO too many people get away with too much shit that they don't learn their lesson. Traffic violations are traffic violations, and small on the grand scale of things. But when people can just get away with crap without consequence, what's the point to even concerning yourself with the possible result of ones stupid decision?

For the record, he showed up the next day. He did quite a horrendous job trying to repair it, and I'm likely to have to pay to fix the rest myself...which, IMO, is unjust. I have no police report other than the fact that I called and they stopped him, and no report to base the damages on aside from pictures I took immediately after the officer left. Personally, for me, it's time & money I don't have wasted trying to fix a problem that shouldn't be my problem in the first place. And Mr. Hotrod get's to walk away with simply having to try to "clean" up the problem with some raking and dirt pushing. Not adequate, IMO.
#6 Sep 10 2007 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
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I am sure they are going to lock him up and take away the key! Dangerous criminals such as him need to be sent for a long stretch in the poke

If you get the work done great, if not take him to small claims court. I am sure having the officers report that the man left the scene of the accident and promised compensation will help. Assuming that it is under 5k worth of damage.


Heh. The guy tore his grass up. I'm sure sod's not that expensive.
#7 Sep 10 2007 at 9:41 AM Rating: Decent
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It appears the cops didn't find him to be breaking any laws so, personally, I see no reason to punish him. He merely had an accident.

You have a civil suit though. Take notes about the incident and pictures. If the guy doesn't make good on the lawn work sue him....or beat him up.
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#8 Sep 10 2007 at 9:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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We lay sod commercially for about $3.00 a square yard. Even if I assume that residental folks charge three times that, you'd have to own about 5000sq ft of damaged turf to hit five grand. Or 2000sq ft for two grand for those not able to keep up with the math.
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#9 Sep 10 2007 at 9:51 AM Rating: Good
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It appears the cops didn't find him to be breaking any laws so, personally, I see no reason to punish him. He merely had an accident.


See that's what I'm curious about. I mean, it'd be one thing if he stopped, got out of his car and spoke with me. I wouldn't have even reported him, honestly, if he had. But he attempted to flee and avoid police and confrontation all together.

And yes, it's grass. Whoopee. When you're a home-owner, it sucks to have your lawn ruined and not repaired. I can't mow a very large section of my front lawn until it's repaired, which sucks. But all in all, I'm merely curious about others opinions regarding the fact that he left in an attempt to avoid police or confrontation. I wouldn't even pursue the matter considering the nature of the damage. Had I had a nice fence or something out there, I would have more reason.

Joph wrote:
We lay sod commercially for about $3.00 a square yard. Even if I assume that residental folks charge three times that, you'd have to own about 5000sq ft of damaged turf to hit five grand. Or 2000sq ft for two grand for those not able to keep up with the math.


$3.00 a sq. yd. including labor and preparation/cleanup of the damaged lawn? Hell, I may run my SUV around my yard with a beer in-hand in that case!

Edited, Sep 10th 2007 1:53pm by Ryneguy
#10 Sep 10 2007 at 9:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
We lay sod commercially for about $3.00 a square yard.
Do you know in this seedy New England neck-of-the-woods, grass is grown almost exclusively from scratch. If you want sod I'm pretty sure you have to import it from New Jersey.
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#11 Sep 10 2007 at 9:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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We have honkin' big sod farms out here. Giant lawns stretching out to the horizons. Or something like that.

That three bucks a yard is for large commercial work. Economies of scale and all that.
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#12 Sep 10 2007 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Ryneguy wrote:

See that's what I'm curious about. I mean, it'd be one thing if he stopped, got out of his car and spoke with me. I wouldn't have even reported him, honestly, if he had. But he attempted to flee and avoid police and confrontation all together.
No doubt it would have been nice had he apologized.

Hey isn't there a law against running from the scene of an accident? If there was property damage, there was an accident.
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#13 Sep 10 2007 at 10:16 AM Rating: Decent
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The cop was about ready to get off work? All things considered the kick in the tender partsmay be the only recompense you will ever get.
Seriously I would take the pics and get the police reports and take him to civil court. Oh get estimates on the cost of fixing the damage before your court date.

Good luck.
#14 Sep 10 2007 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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That totally blows Ryne. I would be pissed but it's one of those things where life's unfair and that's all there is to it.
#15 Sep 10 2007 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
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I think the threads today suck ***. Nicely of course.
#16 Sep 10 2007 at 1:29 PM Rating: Good
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I think the threads today suck ***. Nicely of course.


So, exactly how would you go about sucking *** "nicely"? Smiley: dubious
#17 Sep 10 2007 at 1:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Tongue not teeth.

I'm not surprised you've been doing it wrong this entire time.
#18 Sep 10 2007 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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Let me check this.

Something bad happened.

There's nothing constructive you can do about it.

You won't let it go and move on.

That's it, right?
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#19REDACTED, Posted: Sep 10 2007 at 2:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Let me see this guy left the scene of an accident...
#20REDACTED, Posted: Sep 10 2007 at 2:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ban him from allakhazam lol
#21REDACTED, Posted: Sep 10 2007 at 2:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ban him from allakhazam lol
#22 Sep 11 2007 at 4:26 AM Rating: Good
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Smiley: tongue
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