Now we are banned from telling people just how badly we are treated
For years the UK Armed forces have sat and watched while Police forces, Firemen, Nurses even postmen all of whom are better paid than many of the servicemen and women gripe and complain about how badly they are treated and how they should be paid more.
We covered the Fire strike of 02/03 despite the fact that firemen earned far more than us for half the hours.
Lately stories of how bad equipment and morale has become has filtered to the public, mainly from high level officers faced with troops pushed to the limit with less and less resourses.
Now it looks like the truth will be covered up by a blanket ban on all communications, even to the point of banning online gaming.
Things must be worse than i thought, really glad i am getting out next year.
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They will also be barred from playing multi-player computer games and sending text messages, photographs and audio or video material without permission if they relate to defence matters.
This paragraph is really confusing. It seems to say that they will be barred from these activities only IF they're related to defence matters??...so, you can't play Warhammer or World or Warcraft, but Lord of the Rings might be ok..
Seems like this:
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Receiving money for interviews, conferences and books which draw on official defence experience has now been banned.
..would have been sufficient to address the big-money book deals that they claim they're trying to avoid.
Anyway, I guess cutting out tongues isn't gonna help with the blogging..seems dam archaic.
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The people who are putting their lives on the line for the rest of us.
STRIKE MOAR.
The people who are putting their lives on the line for the rest of us.
STRIKE MOAR.
Enlisted troops have been treated like worthless replaceable parts for about 1900 years now, if not longer. The reality is that finding easily led men who want to kill other people just isn't that hard.
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Enlisted troops have been treated like worthless replaceable parts for about 1900 years now, if not longer. The reality is that finding easily led men who want to kill other people just isn't that hard.
And they went on strike for better pay... leaving the forces to cover for them.
Baron von tarv wrote:
And they went on strike for better pay... leaving the forces to cover for them.
Lazy Bastards paid a fortune to sleep all night 'in case' there's a fire
Sure it's a tough job, but the money was better than the troops who covered for them.
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
It is now, the British forces are having a huge recruitment crisis, it's been building for the last 3 or 4 years, ever since the Invasion of Iraq really, but added to by the much publicied fact that firemen where paid a good 50% more than us for doing about half the hours
Firemen actually serve a purpose. With all due respect, what exactly, is the point of the British standing armed forces? Your conquering days are long over, and what with both sides having nuclear weapons I'd venture a wild supposition that you're probably safe from the invading Franco-Bavarian hordes at this point.
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With all due respect, what exactly, is the point of the British standing armed forces?
We are the 5th biggest ecconomy in the world and have interests in just about every country in the world. Presently UK forces are deployed in almost every place USA is, so is your point that America should disband it's armed forces aswell?
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Firemen actually serve a purpose. With all due respect, what exactly, is the point of the British standing armed forces? Your conquering days are long over, and what with both sides having nuclear weapons I'd venture a wild supposition that you're probably safe from the invading Franco-Bavarian hordes at this point.
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America should disband it's armed forces aswell?
maybe yeah, but, y'know.... those evil doers...
they can't stand Our freedom.
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Firemen actually serve a purpose. With all due respect, what exactly, is the point of the British standing armed forces? Your conquering days are long over, and what with both sides having nuclear weapons I'd venture a wild supposition that you're probably safe from the invading Franco-Bavarian hordes at this point.
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This Shows That Retards Type.
Smasharoo wrote:
With all due respect, what exactly, is the point of the British standing armed forces?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
not unless your have schizophrenia
We are the 5th biggest ecconomy in the world and have interests in just about every country in the world. Presently UK forces are deployed in almost every place USA is, so is your point that America should disband it's armed forces aswell?
No, but if the US forces were deployed all over the world protecting UK interests, I probably would, yes. The US has sufficient population and resources relative to it's interests to wield a strong armed force to protect it's interests. The UK doesn't, really, and hasn't since around 1900. Having interests largely aligned with the US makes the UK forces duplicitous and meaningless. It's not as if contributing more to the cause allows the UK to influence US policy at all.
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Maybe the UK could just like pay the US some taxes, and then we'll use our military force to do stuff for both of us?
Wouldn't that be a switch? ;)
Wouldn't that be a switch? ;)
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No, but if the US forces were deployed all over the world protecting UK interests, I probably would, yes. The US has sufficient population and resources relative to it's interests to wield a strong armed force to protect it's interests. The UK doesn't, really, and hasn't since around 1900. Having interests largely aligned with the US makes the UK forces duplicitous and meaningless. It's not as if contributing more to the cause allows the UK to influence US policy at all.
Bosnia?
WWI?
WWII?
History says you are wrong on at least four counts.
I agree with Smash to some extent. The combination of a nuclear deterrent, NATO, and the US army, means that national European armies are not as needed as they used to be.
I don't advocate that they should disband and let their fate rest in the hands of the US army. I do think, however, that we should create an EU army. I know it might prove difficult, especially with regards to NATO, but it's the only way EU countries can have an effective military power.
We're a long way away from it happening, but I have no doubt it's the future of armed forces in the EU. And it'll happen incrementally, starting with joint operations, a rapid-response unit, a shared command center, etc...
The UK will obviously be last EU country to join it, and even then, it'll join it kicking and screaming.
I don't advocate that they should disband and let their fate rest in the hands of the US army. I do think, however, that we should create an EU army. I know it might prove difficult, especially with regards to NATO, but it's the only way EU countries can have an effective military power.
We're a long way away from it happening, but I have no doubt it's the future of armed forces in the EU. And it'll happen incrementally, starting with joint operations, a rapid-response unit, a shared command center, etc...
The UK will obviously be last EU country to join it, and even then, it'll join it kicking and screaming.
I also agree with the overall point he's making i just don't agree with his reasoning.
In fact his reasoning makes for a good arguement why the UK SHOULD have a large military since we have just as many if not more oversea territories as America.
I think we should remove the majority of the UK forces because we and USA should stop trying to be the worlds policemen and let the middle east sort itself out.
In fact his reasoning makes for a good arguement why the UK SHOULD have a large military since we have just as many if not more oversea territories as America.
I think we should remove the majority of the UK forces because we and USA should stop trying to be the worlds policemen and let the middle east sort itself out.
Baron von tarv wrote:
I think we should remove the majority of the UK forces because we and USA should stop trying to be the worlds policemen and let the middle east sort itself out.
Well, take oil and Israel out of the ME, and we'd police it as much as we police sub-saharan Africa.
Falklands?
Bosnia?
WWI?
WWII?
History says you are wrong on at least four counts.
Yeah, and one of those is in the last quarter century.
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