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#1 Aug 05 2007 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
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So, a while back I was ******** about how disappointed I was that my favorite coffee joint had been bought out and closed down by Starbucks, and the consensus around here seemed to be that Starbucks coffee is too bitter, burnt and/or acidic for the taste of most coffee lovers here in the Asylum. I believe the most memorable quote came from 'Flea:

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their actual coffee, what their business is based upon, is about as tasty as burnt leather soaked in pure ***.


Well, this week up at Black Butte Ranch, I had a coffee revelation. Mr. Ambrya forgot to bring our beans, so we had to get some from the general store, and the coffee he got came from the Sisters Coffee Company located in Sisters, OR a few miles from the ranch. They served, hands down, the best mocha I've ever had, and possibly the best plain coffee I've ever had (it's neck-and-neck on that one, the other possibility being some after-dinner coffee I had once at a restaurant in Vancouver, B.C.)

The blend we got was Black Butte Gold and it was marvelous. Rich, not at all acidic, it was so smooth that cream was almost redundant. I was so impressed I had to give this little outfit a public shout-out. If you're willing to mail-order your beans, I would highly recommend them to any coffee connoisseur.
#2 Aug 05 2007 at 3:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Heh heh, you said "black butt"!
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#3 Aug 05 2007 at 6:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm so lazy when it comes to brewing. Do they make instant?
#4 Aug 05 2007 at 6:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Atomicflea wrote:
I'm so lazy when it comes to brewing. Do they make instant?


Blech! Pour that instant swill back in the horse.
#5 Aug 05 2007 at 6:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Starbuck's coffee isn't bitter at all. Acidic, maybe, but that's usually not a bad thing.
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#6 Aug 05 2007 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Smasharoo wrote:
Starbuck's coffee isn't bitter at all. Acidic, maybe, but that's usually not a bad thing.

Yeah, because regular coffee doesn't eat the lining of your stomach fast enough!
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#7 Aug 06 2007 at 4:59 AM Rating: Good
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I'm still happy with my Keurig. Lots of choices depending on time of day and my mood. I find I need to have two cups of dark roast in the morning. I'm digging Gloria Jeans Black Gold
#8 Aug 06 2007 at 5:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Starbucks = Caribou Coffee = Green Mountain

If someone finds Starbucks coffee bitter they were likely drinking a darker roast then they are used to. Starbucks, uses pretty high quality beans.

If you start with good-quality freshly roasted moisture free beans, grind the beans just before brewing, keep your coffee brewer clean, don't skimp on coffee/water ratio, and quit 'cooking' it once brewed, you will get good coffee. Most 'gormet' coffee shops are pretty good at this, fairly simple, concept.

I get my coffee from local roasters because it's just that much fresher and, well, because it's local.

...I am a true coffee snob...
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#9 Aug 06 2007 at 5:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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If you're a real coffee snob, you can always go the boca java route.

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#10 Aug 06 2007 at 5:19 AM Rating: Good
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I'm afraid that this era of giant Red Bulls and Full Throttle Furies has murdered my want of coffee...

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#11 Aug 06 2007 at 7:19 AM Rating: Good
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I'll have to keep this in mind. Hubby's been looking for a good coffee. I'm more partial to tea myself.
#12 Aug 06 2007 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Elinda wrote:
Starbucks = Caribou Coffee = Green Mountain

If someone finds Starbucks coffee bitter they were likely drinking a darker roast then they are used to. Starbucks, uses pretty high quality beans.

If you start with good-quality freshly roasted moisture free beans, grind the beans just before brewing, keep your coffee brewer clean, don't skimp on coffee/water ratio, and quit 'cooking' it once brewed, you will get good coffee. Most 'gormet' coffee shops are pretty good at this, fairly simple, concept.

I get my coffee from local roasters because it's just that much fresher and, well, because it's local.

...I am a true coffee snob...

I keep bags of Eight O'clock whole bean in the freezer. Preparation-wise, I tend to use roughly one full grinder of beans with a full pot of water, in the machine at ngiht set to auto-brew at 7am, take one mug (2 cups) with me to work, the re-heat the rest over the next 2-3 days.

But I don't drink Starbucks. Smiley: tongue

I forget how to clean a coffeemaker...do you run vinegar through it or something?
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#13 Aug 06 2007 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Debalic wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Starbucks = Caribou Coffee = Green Mountain

If someone finds Starbucks coffee bitter they were likely drinking a darker roast then they are used to. Starbucks, uses pretty high quality beans.

If you start with good-quality freshly roasted moisture free beans, grind the beans just before brewing, keep your coffee brewer clean, don't skimp on coffee/water ratio, and quit 'cooking' it once brewed, you will get good coffee. Most 'gormet' coffee shops are pretty good at this, fairly simple, concept.

I get my coffee from local roasters because it's just that much fresher and, well, because it's local.

...I am a true coffee snob...

I keep bags of Eight O'clock whole bean in the freezer. Preparation-wise, I tend to use roughly one full grinder of beans with a full pot of water, in the machine at ngiht set to auto-brew at 7am, take one mug (2 cups) with me to work, the re-heat the rest over the next 2-3 days.
Eight O'clock is what I buy when I'm feeling poor. Best cheap coffee out there.

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But I don't drink Starbucks. Smiley: tongue
I'll drink it over a cup of gas station coffee anyday, but don't buy their beans.

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I forget how to clean a coffeemaker...do you run vinegar through it or something?
I just run water thru mine. I spose vinegar might help if you have hard water or something?? The important thing it to clean off the spray/spout, or whatever your machine has that shoots the water onto the coffee, as well the pot and filter holder...regularly....like every pot. Smiley: tongue
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#14 Aug 06 2007 at 5:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Elinda wrote:

If someone finds Starbucks coffee bitter they were likely drinking a darker roast then they are used to. Starbucks, uses pretty high quality beans.


The problem isn't the quality of the beans, it's the fact that Starbucks does, in fact, burn them.

Mr. Ambrya and I drink French Roast at home, so we're used to dark roast coffee. When taking coffee from home to work, Mr. Ambrya adds ONE packet of sweetener to a whole thermos (four cups) of coffee. When drinking a SHORT house coffee at Starbucks (the size that's not even on the menu, it's smaller than a tall) he has to add TWO packets of sweetener to make it even potable. I frequently find myself compelled to add sweetener to drinks that are supposed to be sweet, like their mocha.

Sorry, it's bitter. There's just no way around it.
#15 Aug 06 2007 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Ambrya wrote:
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Sorry, it's bitter. There's just no way around it.
Guess it's a matter of taste. They certainly brew it stronger than many places....the acidity does get to me if I'm forced to drink too much. I'm no Starbucks Corp fan, but they consistantly make a decent cup of coffee. If they didnt' they wouldn't be as successful as they are. There's really no way around that.

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#16 Aug 06 2007 at 5:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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I almost never buy hot coffee...I buy iced coffee. Hot coffee I drink with creamer and sweetener, so it doesn't matter if it's crap and I can make it at home. Iced coffee I drink black, so it has to be decent. In order of best to worst iced coffee: Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts, then McDonalds. I haven't tried Tim Horton's Iced Coffee yet, but they're opening one up down the street, so maybe next week or something.

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#17 Aug 06 2007 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Gas station coffee holds a dear spot in my heart. Specifically, late-night, stale, glass-pot, run-down hicksville gas station coffee. Comes from spending a good amount of time on the road at all hours. Sometimes a really nasty cup of coffee is the best thing in the world to wake you up, like a slap in the face. Interstate highway rest area instant-machine coffee is a great example of this. I can remember several incidents, caught up in the Poconos on I-80 waiting out late-night blizzards in a rest area, swilling sugary mud water that makes your eyes pop and jaw grind.
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#18 Aug 06 2007 at 6:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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I tend to like Green Mountain when I do find it at a gas station, so if it's the same as Starbuck's, Ambrya would be right. It's the burnt tasts of the beans I object to. Starbuck's coffee tastes like kissing a smoker. Blech.
#19 Aug 06 2007 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Elinda wrote:
I'm no Starbucks Corp fan, but they consistantly make a decent cup of coffee. If they didnt' they wouldn't be as successful as they are. There's really no way around that.



If this theory were true, 7-Eleven and other convenience stores would never have bothered selling coffee. Caffeine is a drug. People are addicted to it. They will drink just about any swill to get their fix, no matter how noxious.

This theory ignores three extremely pertinent facts. First, Starbucks is easily the most recognized brand-name in the coffee culture ("premium" coffee, that is, ignoring fast-food and convenience store coffee) with locations which are easily accessible. Second, the average consumer hasn't educated his or her palate enough to know there's a difference between Starbucks and other brands of coffee. Third, most consumers aren't willing to forego the most convenient coffee in favor of the best tasting coffee.

People drink Starbucks because it's readily available and because they don't realize that, comparatively, it's bad. Mr. Ambrya and I are somewhat uncommon in that we would rather go out of our way for something that tastes better, by-passing two or three more conveniently situated Starbucks in the process.

Edited, Aug 6th 2007 9:19pm by Ambrya
#20 Aug 06 2007 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Atomicflea wrote:
I tend to like Green Mountain when I do find it at a gas station, so if it's the same as Starbuck's, Ambrya would be right. It's the burnt tasts of the beans I object to. Starbuck's coffee tastes like kissing a smoker. Blech.


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#21 Aug 06 2007 at 7:51 PM Rating: Good
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Eh, why complicate your life with another "thing?"

#22 Aug 07 2007 at 2:44 AM Rating: Decent
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When drinking a SHORT house coffee at Starbucks (the size that's not even on the menu, it's smaller than a tall) he has to add TWO packets of sweetener to make it even potable.


I submit it's more likely that your husband's just a big ***** than that the most popular coffee retailer in the world's coffee is particularly bitter.

Men past the age of 11 who don't drink black coffee are just sissies.

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#23 Aug 07 2007 at 3:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Smasharoo wrote:
Men past the age of 11 who don't drink black coffee are just sissies.
Or weren't raised in New England, apparently. Smiley: lol
#24 Aug 07 2007 at 3:17 AM Rating: Good
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Men past the age of 11 who don't drink black coffee are just sissies.


Men who actually take time to grind some beans, and then drink them, are sissies.

I eat raw coffe beans for breakfast. Rawr!

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