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#1 Aug 02 2007 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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That states if someone is convicted of a crime due to the faulty testimony of some expert who it later turns out is discovered to ******* insane, they get to stab that expert in the face when they are released.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291452,00.html

At the end of August, there will be a hearing in Mississippi in the murder trial of 33-year-old Kennedy Brewer.

Brewer stands accused of the1991 murder of Christine Jackson, the 3-year-old daughter of his then-girlfriend.

Brewer was initially convicted of raping and strangling Jackson to death in 1995. He was sentenced to death, and has spent the last 12 years on death row.

Brewer was convicted largely due to the testimony of Dr. Michael West. West, a dentist in Forest County, Miss., is a self-described forensic odontologist, or bite mark analyst.


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But even in an already imprecise field, Dr. West has taken forensic odontology to bizarre, megalomaniacal depths. West claims to have invented a system he modestly calls "The West Phenomenon," in which he dons a pair of yellow goggles and, with the aid of a blue laser, says he can identify bite marks, scratches, and other marks on a corpse that no one else can see—not even other forensics experts.

Conveniently, he claims his unique method can't be photographed or reproduced, which he says makes his opinions unimpeachable by other experts.


Yeah, fantastic. Next time I think my life is going poorly I'll have to remind myself that I wasn't convicted of brutal child rape and murder by a jury who bought the testimony of a snake oil salesman.

Judges have to put a stop to this ******** and say "No, you can't have this idiot testify. Appeal all you want."

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#2 Aug 02 2007 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow, that bites.
#3 Aug 02 2007 at 11:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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That states if someone is convicted of a crime due to the faulty testimony of some expert who it later turns out is discovered to batsh*t insane, they get to stab that expert in the face when they are released.


Think it'd be more fitting if he got to bite the guy's face off.

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#4 Aug 02 2007 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
It was a jury trial. Way too many people I know find a way to get out of it.

But I can't imagine the badshiit insane expert witness won't get some kind of criminal charge, oh I don't know, say, trying to kill an innocent man?

#5 Aug 02 2007 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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In the last few years we've struck off (i.e. banned from practicing) a number of medics who've given whacky testimony. Weird theories about cot deaths, child abuse etc.

Half a dozen women who served time for 'killing' their babies due to some nutjob 'expert witness' have now been released as every one else can see it was cot death with no evidence beyond the crack-pot theories of a medic.

Thank Christ we don't have a deathy penalty.
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#6 Aug 02 2007 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Lord Nobby wrote:
cot deaths
Is a cot death what we would call sudden infant death?
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#7 Aug 02 2007 at 12:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Elinda wrote:
Lord Nobby wrote:
cot deaths
Is a cot death what we would call sudden infant death?


By cot. Yes.
#8 Aug 02 2007 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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But I can't imagine the badshiit insane expert witness won't get some kind of criminal charge


Of course he won't. He didn't perjure himself, he just offered testimony he thought was true that a jury, or more importantly a judge should have realized was complete nonsense. It's a child rape and murder case, though. Juries are looking for reasons to convict someone, not for reasonable doubt. They were thinking of the children.
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#9 Aug 02 2007 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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NephthysWanderer the Charming wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Lord Nobby wrote:
cot deaths
Is a cot death what we would call sudden infant death?


By cot. Yes.
That was funny Neph. Nice one..Smiley: smile
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#10 Aug 02 2007 at 12:13 PM Rating: Good
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Smasharoo wrote:

But I can't imagine the badshiit insane expert witness won't get some kind of criminal charge


Of course he won't. He didn't perjure himself, he just offered testimony he thought was true that a jury, or more importantly a judge should have realized was complete nonsense. It's a child rape and murder case, though. Juries are looking for reasons to convict someone, not for reasonable doubt. They were thinking of the children.
We had one self proclaimed 'Expert' on child abuse who saw a bereaved father interviewed on TV about his baby son's death from cot death (or S.I.D.S. as it seems you yanks know it)

He gave evidence in court without ever having met the father or the mother. Since then, he's not allowed to practice medicine or work near children.

Result! Smiley: grin
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#11 Aug 02 2007 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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WTF is a "cot"? is that like a piece of cotton or something?
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#12 Aug 02 2007 at 12:30 PM Rating: Good
Kelvyquayo the Irrelevant wrote:
WTF is a "cot"? is that like a piece of cotton or something?


Cot.

Apparently our friends overseas don't believe in cribs, I'm guessing.
#13 Aug 02 2007 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Smasharoo wrote:
he dons a pair of yellow goggles and, with the aid of a blue laser, says he can identify bite marks, scratches, and other marks on a corpse that no one else can see—not even other forensics experts.

Conveniently, he claims his unique method can't be photographed or reproduced, which he says makes his opinions unimpeachable by other experts.


Did anyone else think of Joseph Smith right about here?
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#14 Aug 02 2007 at 12:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Iamadam the Shady wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
he dons a pair of yellow goggles and, with the aid of a blue laser, says he can identify bite marks, scratches, and other marks on a corpse that no one else can see—not even other forensics experts.

Conveniently, he claims his unique method can't be photographed or reproduced, which he says makes his opinions unimpeachable by other experts.


Did anyone else think of Joseph Smith right about here?


Smiley: lol
#15 Aug 02 2007 at 12:46 PM Rating: Good
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Iamadam the Shady wrote:

Did anyone else think of Joseph Smith right about here?



He found the stones and golden plates
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Even though nobody else ever saw them
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
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#16 Aug 02 2007 at 3:03 PM Rating: Excellent
From a FWD in my inbox not yet trashed:

FWD wrote:

These are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and now published by court reporters who had the torment of staying calm while these exchanges were actually taking place.

1.
Q: What is your date of birth?
A: July 15th.
Q: What year?
A: Every year.

2.
Q: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact?
A: Gucci sweats and Reeboks.

3.
Q: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?
A: Yes.
Q: And in what ways does it affect your memory?
A: I forget.
Q: You forget. Can you give us an example of something that you've forgotten?

4.
Q: How old is your son, the one living with you?
A: Thirty-eight or thirty-five, I can't remember which.
Q: How long has he lived with you?
A: Forty-five years.

5.
Q: What was the first thing your husband said to you when he woke.
A: He said, "Where am I, Cathy?"
Q: And why did that upset you?
A: My name is Susan.

6.
Q: And where was the location of the accident?
A: Approximately milepost 499.
Q: And where is milepost 499?
A: Probably between milepost 498 and 500.

7.
Q: Sir, what is your IQ?
A: Well, I can see pretty well, I think.

8.
Q: Did you blow your horn or anything?
A: After the accident?
Q: Before the accident.
A: Sure, I played for 10 years. I even went to school for it.

9.
Q: Do you know if your daughter has ever been involved in voodoo or the occult?
A: We both do.
Q: Voodoo?
A: We do.
Q: You do?
A: Yes, voodoo.

10.
Q: Trooper, when you stopped the defendant, were your red and blue Lights flashing?
A: Yes.
Q: Did the defendant say anything when she got out of her car?
A: Yes, sir.
Q: What did she say?
A: What disco am I at?

11.
Q: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn't know about it until the next morning?

12.
Q: The youngest son, the 20-year old, how old is he?


13.
Q: Were you present when your picture was taken?


14.
Q: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?
A: Yes.
Q: And what were you doing at that time?

15.
Q: She had three children, right?
A: Yes.
Q: How many were boys?
A: None.
Q: Were there any girls?

16.
Q: You say the stairs went down to the basement?
A: Yes.
Q: And these stairs, did they go up also?

17.
Q: How was your first marriage terminated?
A: By death.
Q: And by whose death was it terminated?

18.
Q: Can you describe the individual?
A: He was about medium height and had a beard.
Q: Was this a male, or a female?


19.
Q: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney?
A: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.

20.
Q: Doctor, how many autopsies have you performed on dead people?
A: All my autopsies are performed on dead people.

21.
Q: All your responses must be oral, OK? What school did you go to?
A: Oral.

22.
Q: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?
A: The autopsy started around 8:30 p.m.
Q: And Mr. Dennington was dead at the time?
A: No, he was sitting on the table wondering why I was doing an autopsy.

23.
Q: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?


24.
Q: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
A: No.
Q: Did you check for blood pressure?
A: No.
Q: Did you check for breathing?
A: No.
Q: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
A: No.
Q: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
A: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
Q: But could the patient have still been alive nevertheless?
A: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practising law somewhere.


So to be fair, we can't just throw out cases because of quack testimony. Gotta weed out the quack court appointed Lawyers too.
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#17 Aug 02 2007 at 3:49 PM Rating: Good
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Omegavegeta wrote:
Gotta weed out the quack court appointed Lawyers too.


I think that would fall under the 'get what you pay for' category.
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#18 Aug 02 2007 at 4:35 PM Rating: Excellent
Iamadam wrote:
I think that would fall under the 'get what you pay for' category.


Which is why our justice system is such a joke in the first place.

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