British troops officially out of N. IrelandFollow

We have to give General Petraeus time!

At least time enough to make sure it is close enough to the end of the Bush presidency so that he doesn't have to do anything about it and can wait for the next president to have to deal with it.

What was that? I may have missed it.

NYT Op-Ed piece entitled "A War We Just Might Win". The big buzz was that these guys were from Brookings and thus liberals and thus must have been against the war and represent a major shift in Democratic perceptions on the war.

Salon article commenting on the Op-Ed's authors' past stances on the war. Apparently both have had a great deal of support for the war since the start.

Edited, Jul 31st 2007 12:22pm by Jophiel

Since the British govenment achived all of it objectives in NI and the IRA achived none

Hahahahahahaha. Wow, fantastic analysis. What are you in the UK armed services or something.

Oh yeah, never mind.

It seemed like a such quaint world, when "terrorists" meant the IRA, the Red Brigades and the PLO.

thier stated goals where a united Ireland and it's not.

Yet.

Their actual goals were a removal of the occupying force from Ireland and a Catholic voice in Ulster. How did that work out again? Oh yeah, they WON.


The British govenments goal was an end to sectarian Violence from pollitical groups like the IRA and UDA, guess what both has remounced violence.

Ny giving the IRA 99% of what they wanted and ******* the Unionists? Gee, you'd think they would have just done that in 1922 and saved a lot of innocent people being bombed.

So all the US has to do is stay in Iraq for a total of 38 years - and we can stop patrolling at year 36 - oh the joy! Oh wait, the whole scale of it was different. Never mind.

Many times - but hardly an 'objective' or 'goal'

Many times - but hardly an 'objective' or 'goal'

No, the objective was the disarming of the IRA without making concessions. The idea that there would have been an Assembly today without the violence of the Troubles is naive and silly.

which is why I never made such a point.

I know you didn't, you made the point that the stated goal was a reunited Ireland, and hence this wasn't a victory for the Provos. Which is akin to saying the removal of British forced from India wasn't a victory for Ghandi because of the creation of Pakistan.

This is boring

Sold.

Does the NHS cover N Ireland?

Honest question I don't know the answer to.

And they have some of the most experienced surgeons in the world at treating double knee-cappings!

Only on January 1-2 when there's still money available that hasn't been spent on liver transplants, right?

The mighty forces can finally look in pride at the native army that they have taken so long to train to uphold the peace and laws of the land. It is a good thing that they can walk away from a place and know that because they were there that the savages have been kept from tearing each other apart.

Maybe America should partition part of Iraq to the Sunnis and let the rest fend for themselves, Or even better, move some Jewish settlers in there so that both Sunni and Shi'ia can fight those instead of each other.

In August 1969, thousands of young Britons were dispatched to Belfast on what was expected to be a brief assignment. Ostensibly they were sent at the request of the Northern Irish government to help restore order in the wake of widespread violence

38 years huh.
So does this new Prime Minister of yours got some kinda PAtty loyalties or something?