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#1 Jul 26 2007 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
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My son went to court yesterday. One of the charges against him was possessing a useable amount of marijauna. He got a $300.00 fine.

This AM on NPR there was a story about the contradiction in state vs federal law in California. The reporters went to a marijauna distribution center. I think they tried out the martian green variety.

You've all heard the arguments for and against the legalization of Mary Ja Quana.

Now Vote:
Should marijuana, medicinal or simply recreational, be legal?
Pot should be legal:51 (78.5%)
Pot should remain illegal:9 (13.8%)
either/other/neither:5 (7.7%)
Total:65







Edited, Jul 26th 2007 3:12pm by Elinda
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#2 Jul 26 2007 at 4:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's absurd on any sort of purely ethical/moral level that marijuana would be illegal while alcohol remains legal, simply put.

It's all about the money, honey.

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#3 Jul 26 2007 at 4:24 AM Rating: Good
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For me, pot is legal. Yay!
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#4 Jul 26 2007 at 4:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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I voted "other" because I can't really lump recreational use with medical.

Medically, I say yeah sure. We send people home with prescriptions for much worse. Recreationally, I more or less shrug. I suppose a decent argument can be made but I don't have any sympathy for those caught because they wanted to get stoned. Go find a new hobby. Maybe a legal one.

Speaking of, what's with the kid possessing a "legal" amount of marijuana and getting a $300 fine? Is it only legal if you can document its medical use or what?

Edited, Jul 26th 2007 7:34am by Jophiel
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#5 Jul 26 2007 at 5:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:

Speaking of, what's with the kid possessing a "legal" amount of marijuana and getting a $300 fine? Is it only legal if you can document its medical use or what?
Oopsy, fixied that.

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Medically, I say yeah sure. We send people home with prescriptions for much worse. Recreationally, I more or less shrug. I suppose a decent argument can be made but I don't have any sympathy for those caught because they wanted to get stoned. Go find a new hobby. Maybe a legal one.
I was originally gonna add seperate voting options for medicinal or not, but then...didnt. I guess I didn't because to me it seems silly to make it legal for medicinal use only. But that's interjecting a personal opinion into a highly scientific non-biased poll. Smiley: grin




Edited, Jul 26th 2007 3:15pm by Elinda
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#7 Jul 26 2007 at 6:38 AM Rating: Excellent
I think it should be legal because I like to smoke pot. Also, I spent some time with a couple of guys from BC recently and while they both grow massive amounts of weed they are still productive members of society(well, by Canadian standards, anyway) and generally all around super nice guys. So, you see, it can work.
#9 Jul 26 2007 at 6:52 AM Rating: Decent
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AngstyCoder wrote:
Elinda wrote:
I guess I didn't because to me it seems silly to make it legal for medicinal use only.


What of morphine and the other opiates that are presently controlled substances in the same way pot would be? Should those be legal, too, since it's an all-or-nothing legality? :)
Sorry, my boss keeps coming to my desk today seeing how I'm doing getting HER work done that's on a deadline, and keeping me from making my points clear (clear in a relative sence),,,or refined, or even finished.

I, personally, don't think pot has much in the way of medicinal value was where that was going with that. I may be very wrong.

In hindsight, I should have indeed, added separate options to the poll, and I still could, but it would frick up the votes that have already been made.... maybe we can do it all again tomorrow. Smiley: nod
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#10 Jul 26 2007 at 6:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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I have no desire to use pot. I do think it's relatively harmless and see no reason for it to be illegal.

Read up on the history of the legal-to-illegal status of marijuana sometime. It is, indeed, all about the money.

"Reefer Madness" still stands out as one of the funniest propaganda pieces ever made.
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#11 Jul 26 2007 at 7:10 AM Rating: Decent
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"Reefer Madness" still stands out as one of the funniest propaganda pieces ever made.
Smiley: nod..that and "Duck and Cover".

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#12 Jul 26 2007 at 7:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Samira wrote:
I have no desire to use pot. I do think it's relatively harmless and see no reason for it to be illegal.
I largely agree although I can't work up the enthusiasm to rally for its legality either.

But, yeah, sure. Legalize it, tax it and everyone will be buying 20-packs of chemically enhanced joints from RJ Reynolds at the 7-11.
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#13 Jul 26 2007 at 7:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Samira wrote:
I have no desire to use pot. I do think it's relatively harmless and see no reason for it to be illegal.
I largely agree although I can't work up the enthusiasm to rally for its legality either.

But, yeah, sure. Legalize it, tax it and everyone will be buying 20-packs of chemically enhanced joints from RJ Reynolds at the 7-11.
Well that's just it. Seems like it would be easier to control if it was legalized. If my kid had to show ID to buy his pot, he might have saved himself three hundred bucks and big ol mark on his permanent record (well depending on age...but I'm assuming 21). Smiley: wink
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#14 Jul 26 2007 at 7:18 AM Rating: Good
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Or he could have... you know... not smoked pot Smiley: wink2
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#15 Jul 26 2007 at 7:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Or he could have... you know... not smoked pot Smiley: wink2
Funny, I tried to make that same argument. I blame college...or a girl...or the internets.

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#17 Jul 26 2007 at 8:03 AM Rating: Decent
Due to my military and police background, coupled with a different value system given my age, my gut instinct tells me it shouldn't be legalized.

I voted either/other/neither cuz I am hard pressed to find a genuine reason why it shouldn't be, and if it was legalized I wouldn't really have an issue with it.
#18 Jul 26 2007 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Are you smoking this shit so's to escape from reality? Me, I don't need this shit. I am reality. There's the way it ought to be, and there's the way it is. Elias was full of shit. Elias was a crusader. Now, I got no fight... with any man who does what he's told. But when he don't, the machine breaks down. And when the machine breaks down, we break down. And I ain't gonna allow that... in any of you. Not one.

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#19 Jul 26 2007 at 12:05 PM Rating: Default
Pot should remain illegal. My argument? AngryHippo. 'Nuff said.
#20 Jul 26 2007 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
Elinda wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Or he could have... you know... not smoked pot Smiley: wink2
Funny, I tried to make that same argument. I blame college...or a girl...or the internets.



I blame shoddy parenting.
#21 Jul 26 2007 at 12:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Pot should remain illegal. My argument? AngryHippo. 'Nuff said.


Fine, as long as we can make alcohol illegal as well. Also prescription drugs, teenage angst, entitlement and rank stupidity.
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#22 Jul 26 2007 at 1:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Friar Katie wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Or he could have... you know... not smoked pot Smiley: wink2
Funny, I tried to make that same argument. I blame college...or a girl...or the internets.



I blame shoddy parenting.
Pretty bold statement from an ignorant little bitch that doesn't know the first thing about parenting.

I was merely being facetious placing blame on extenuating circumstances. I've had my sleepless nights over this, but the bottum line is, under my watch he didn't do drugs. He left home an honor student who'd never seen one, even small, lick of trouble. He's an adult and knew full well the consequences. He's the only one to blame and has accepted that and paid his due.

Get a brain al katie.
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#23 Jul 26 2007 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
Blame everyone else. If it makes you feel better about the very apparent lack of discipline and values that you instilled into him before he left home.
#24 Jul 26 2007 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
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Friar Katie wrote:
Blame everyone else. If it makes you feel better about the very apparent lack of discipline and values that you instilled into him before he left home.
Ok, I blame you. He used to read this forum, until he read some of your posts and...something happened. He just started wandering around aimlessly, mumbling things like 'make it stop'. So, I gave him pot and forced him to smoke it in order to try and ease the pain. Smiley: oyvey
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#25 Jul 26 2007 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
Shoddy parenting.
#26 Jul 26 2007 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Kids will do whatever the hell they want to do once they leave home, regardless of parenting. Being a straight-edge honor student until that point is excellent work. The question remains, how is he living his life now that he's been exposed to the madness? Employed, socially conscious benefit to society? Homeless bum knifing old ladies in the park?

If it's just weed, then most likely by far the former.

Btw, what is a "useable amount" and where was this? I've never gotten more than a $50 fine for possession.
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