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Better than the end of Soprano's? Worse than the last episode of Seinfeld? A fitting end to a pop culture phenomenon?
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It couldn't be worse than the Soprano's. What was that writer thinking?
But anyway, it's a great ending of the series!
But anyway, it's a great ending of the series!
Not having seen the first two choices, I'll have to go with the third.
Do what now?
Great ending. Of course worlds better than both of your other choices, as I saw both.
I finished it today. Thought it was the ultra mega happy ending. Was a bit surprised they killed off both Tonks and Lupin with their child being just born.
3rd option as well
I felt the same at first, until I remembered that Harry is now Ted's godfather, kind of a repeat between Harry and Sirius.
EDIT-Silly me, why'd I put 'uncle'...
Edited, Jul 22nd 2007 6:29pm by Sopio
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I finished it today. Thought it was the ultra mega happy ending. Was a bit surprised they killed off both Tonks and Lupin with their child being just born.
I felt the same at first, until I remembered that Harry is now Ted's godfather, kind of a repeat between Harry and Sirius.
EDIT-Silly me, why'd I put 'uncle'...
Edited, Jul 22nd 2007 6:29pm by Sopio
Godfather, not uncle.
I, too, got a kick over the implied "Harry Snape" possibility. But he did give one of his kids the middle name of Severus.
I, too, got a kick over the implied "Harry Snape" possibility. But he did give one of his kids the middle name of Severus.
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Sopio wrote:
3rd option as well
I felt the same at first, until I remembered that Harry is now Ted's uncle, kind of a repeat between Harry and Sirius.
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I finished it today. Thought it was the ultra mega happy ending. Was a bit surprised they killed off both Tonks and Lupin with their child being just born.
I felt the same at first, until I remembered that Harry is now Ted's uncle, kind of a repeat between Harry and Sirius.
That's what I thought she was going for with that.
The whole book seems to deal with the idea of death and loss, and nearly everyone in the book who doesn't experience it in some way or fashion. Harry loses his owl, the Weasleys lose one of the twins, Hermoine has to make her parents forget about her (and she doesn't know if she will ever be able to talk to them again), etc.
What I really found interesting in this book was the fact that despite Dumbledore not really appearing much in it (only what, some of the last 10 pages or so?), his presence pervails the whole book. It reminds me of how Dracula only appeared in fifty-ish pages of Stroker's Dracula novel, but you can feel his influence upon each page. The fact that Dumbledore was a flawed character did more to bring him to life than anything in the previous six books.
One thing I really wish was that it showed more how the Weasley twin felt about his brother dying, and what he was doing in the Epilogue.
In my opinion...honestly, this book had to end happily nineteen years later. Anything else and I would have felt disappointed. The Sapranos and the Seinfield endings were unambigious and left things incomplete (it felt like it at least).
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I cried a lot when Snape died and read it like 5 times before I read The Prince's Tale. 
Dobby's death caught me off guard. Well, not so much him dying, but the fact that they gave him socks and a jacket and stuff for the funeral, and Harry digging the grave without magic. :(
The Prince's Tale also had me sniveling a little, especially the story as a child and Dumbledore coming to terms with his death and how you found out Snape was the Headmaster to watch over the students. :(
The Prince's Tale also had me sniveling a little, especially the story as a child and Dumbledore coming to terms with his death and how you found out Snape was the Headmaster to watch over the students. :(
Maybe I'm just a heartless *******, but in no way did I an feel an emotional connection with the characters in this final book.
The whole point of the Harry Potter series was the connection between Harry and Howgwarts. Without them going to school and learning new magic, you end up with a bland adventure story just about "killing dark items" and "finding powerful weapons!" Honestly Rowling, what was going through your head when wrote this peice of sh*t?
The original books had much more flavour and detail. You literally felt the wizarding world. It brought back childhood dreams, fantasies and desires. You could immerse yourself completely into the story.
But with Deathly Hallows, J.K. Rowling lost all that magic. There was little to none character progression and the abscence of Ginny from 99% of the book was ridiculous.
Finally, the ending was atroscious, and grossly anti-climatic. Where the hell was that kick *** final wizarding battle between Harry and Voldemort I had been waiting ten years for? Please rewrite another 7th book J.K. Rowling.
The whole point of the Harry Potter series was the connection between Harry and Howgwarts. Without them going to school and learning new magic, you end up with a bland adventure story just about "killing dark items" and "finding powerful weapons!" Honestly Rowling, what was going through your head when wrote this peice of sh*t?
The original books had much more flavour and detail. You literally felt the wizarding world. It brought back childhood dreams, fantasies and desires. You could immerse yourself completely into the story.
But with Deathly Hallows, J.K. Rowling lost all that magic. There was little to none character progression and the abscence of Ginny from 99% of the book was ridiculous.
Finally, the ending was atroscious, and grossly anti-climatic. Where the hell was that kick *** final wizarding battle between Harry and Voldemort I had been waiting ten years for? Please rewrite another 7th book J.K. Rowling.
That's the only thing that really disappointed me about the book. We all were expecting a massive dust up between Harry and Voldemort and it was over in three paragraphs.
Clearly I was reading a different book. There was no Heroes-like ending here that I saw.
Just finished it about 3 minutes ago, now I can look at the interwebs again without fear! Loved it, going to be a great movie. Really wasn't so happy about Tonks and Lupin and Fred, but guess it could have been worse. That last chapter was confusing, trying to keep everyone straight!
RaistlinDying, you are truly someone who didn't fully understand this book, nor the entire series.
I really enjoyed the book, great ending, and well played out. She also answered a lot of the questions she started. (Unlike Lemony Snicket, I'm still 'WTFed?' Over that.)
Did you all really expect a huge battle between Harry and Voldemort? Harry wasn't Dumbledore, he didn’t' know loads of battle spells and all that. It was meant to be different, I thought.
I do like how Harry killed Voldemort without actually having to cast the killing curse, as well.
I really enjoyed the book, great ending, and well played out. She also answered a lot of the questions she started. (Unlike Lemony Snicket, I'm still 'WTFed?' Over that.)
Did you all really expect a huge battle between Harry and Voldemort? Harry wasn't Dumbledore, he didn’t' know loads of battle spells and all that. It was meant to be different, I thought.
I do like how Harry killed Voldemort without actually having to cast the killing curse, as well.
Was a great ending to one of the truly great works of our time.
All the deaths touched me in some way, grief, shock, fear. The whole book has a power about it.
All the deaths touched me in some way, grief, shock, fear. The whole book has a power about it.
When Fred died, I re-read those paragraphs twice. When he was laid next to Lupin and Tonks, I read that part like five times. I still can't believe she killed off Lupin... I was so sure Ron or Hermione would bite the dust.
I've been mulling it over and as a ending it was pretty damn good.
I wish there had been more of a comeuppance for the Malfoy family. Throughout the series Snape has continuously been viewed as the enemy but shown to be on the right side and in his final moments he was shown to be one of the biggest heroes of the entire series after becoming the biggest villian in book 6, like Pikko stated it was pretty powerful stuff for those who have fallen in love with the series. I never felt there was that moment with the Malfoys, yes Lucius lost everything including his wand and Harry's defeat of Malfoy lead to a defeat of Voldemort but coming from Rowling I expected some true wtfpwnage of Malfoy.
Mrs Weasly having her moment was awesome, same with Neville. Kings Crossing was handled extremely well, especially where Dumbledore answers Harry's question 'is this real or just in my head?'. Too many writers would leave it ambiguous and up to the reader, which in a book which is all about conclusions is kind of a cop out.
Now if only Robert Jordan can finally manage to wrap up the WoT series with as much class things will be alright in the literary world.
I wish there had been more of a comeuppance for the Malfoy family. Throughout the series Snape has continuously been viewed as the enemy but shown to be on the right side and in his final moments he was shown to be one of the biggest heroes of the entire series after becoming the biggest villian in book 6, like Pikko stated it was pretty powerful stuff for those who have fallen in love with the series. I never felt there was that moment with the Malfoys, yes Lucius lost everything including his wand and Harry's defeat of Malfoy lead to a defeat of Voldemort but coming from Rowling I expected some true wtfpwnage of Malfoy.
Mrs Weasly having her moment was awesome, same with Neville. Kings Crossing was handled extremely well, especially where Dumbledore answers Harry's question 'is this real or just in my head?'. Too many writers would leave it ambiguous and up to the reader, which in a book which is all about conclusions is kind of a cop out.
Now if only Robert Jordan can finally manage to wrap up the WoT series with as much class things will be alright in the literary world.
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I re-read The Prince's Tale last night and his death yet again, plus the battle. Truly good stuff: I'm very happy with it, colons and all.
Something else that was particularly touching for me was Harry telling James that Snape was probably the "bravest man he had ever known". I just felt so good for Snape to have earned Harry's respect like that.
As for Malfoy, while I agree that they deserved worse, I think to Rowling she did enough to them by turning them from a hard-hearted cruel pure blood family into a weepy, sentimental family who at the core truly and deeply cared more about their son than anything else. It goes against so much of what she was casting them as in the past and to have them disgraced ALL throughout Deathly Hallows was probably enough in her eyes. You could see her setting it up ever since the opening chapter of HBP with Narcissa. I particularly liked how Draco ended up in the epilogue and how one nod basically acknowledged that he understood he owed everything he had at that point to Harry.
That reminds me, the torture scene of Hermione at the Malfoys sent chills up my spine. I kept stopping and thinking, omg what are all the poor 10 year olds thinking right now?!?
Something else that was particularly touching for me was Harry telling James that Snape was probably the "bravest man he had ever known". I just felt so good for Snape to have earned Harry's respect like that.
As for Malfoy, while I agree that they deserved worse, I think to Rowling she did enough to them by turning them from a hard-hearted cruel pure blood family into a weepy, sentimental family who at the core truly and deeply cared more about their son than anything else. It goes against so much of what she was casting them as in the past and to have them disgraced ALL throughout Deathly Hallows was probably enough in her eyes. You could see her setting it up ever since the opening chapter of HBP with Narcissa. I particularly liked how Draco ended up in the epilogue and how one nod basically acknowledged that he understood he owed everything he had at that point to Harry.
That reminds me, the torture scene of Hermione at the Malfoys sent chills up my spine. I kept stopping and thinking, omg what are all the poor 10 year olds thinking right now?!?
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That reminds me, the torture scene of Hermione at the Malfoys sent chills up my spine. I kept stopping and thinking, omg what are all the poor 10 year olds thinking right now?!?
I dunno but according to gbaji it's not torture (or rape!) unless it leaves a mark, which I am pretty sure the cruciato curse doesn't leave.
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WascallyWabbit, how did I not understand the book or the series? The Harry Potter books were supposed to be a breakthrough in advenure stories. They did away with all the "find powerful objects" and instead gave great charcters. With this 7th book though, Rowling just made a book that was extremely cliched.
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The Harry Potter books were supposed to be a breakthrough in advenure stories.
Whoever said that?
To say that Harry Potter was in anyway a revolution in story telling obviously had a clear disconnect from reality and failed at understanding exactly what made the series so great.
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Now if only Robert Jordan can finally manage to wrap up the WoT series with as much class things will be alright in the literary world.
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Now if only Robert Jordan can finally manage to wrap up the WoT series with as much class things will be alright in the literary world.
Books 7-10 were complete *****, book 11 was not bad and gave hopes that the promised conclusion of book 12 might salvage what was a great series.
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Book series really shouldn't be allowed to go past 8 or so.
I really liked how Dumbledore wasn't perfect. He was always my favourite, don't get me wrong, but it was incredible of Rowling to make him a flawed hero in some aspects.
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