Monsieur RedPhoenixxx wrote:
Palpitus wrote:
Yeah, about as hard to imagine a partner for peace that refuses to recognize a legitimately, democratically elected majority government in Hamas.
I totally agree. It's hypocritical to say "you must have elections" and then to punish the people for voting for the party we don't like.
Wait a min. we are punishing people? Nope, we told them what would happen if they made the choice to support Hamas. This is called consequences for actions. The connected (referring to communication via some form either electrical, or other) world knew exactly what the EU, UN, and USA would do if the people of Palestine elected Hamas to power.
Funding and international support from those political groups would be cut off.
This is not punishment, this is no different then you making a choice to go to school or not. If you choose to go to school and do well you have a better chance at getting a higher paying job. If you choose to drop out of school and do not have special talents (anything that will set you ABOVE the average crowd by miles to make your millions with) then you will have a much harder time finding a job let a long a high paying one.
That is NOT a punishment, that is a result of a choice.
There is no rule that states just because we are the ONLY "world power" that we MUST be nice to everyone. Hamas is full of terrorists and is a terrorist organization. The US and its allies do not deal with terrorist, so why just because Hamas was elected should the US or any country for that matter FORGET that Hamas is a terrorist organization? Why should any country for that matter give Hamas a clean slate and say "Oh you were elected to power so now you are no longer a group of terrorists and we will treat you like our best buddies and an long tern ally."
bullsh1t.
Any organization that wants to negotiate needs to first renounce terrorism, and then follow up with their words with actions. At that point they can start EARNING the right to have open conversations with nations that do not support them.
Just because a group is elected to power does not automatically grant them any rights to other nations money or support. The ONLY thing it does is grant them power within their
statesboundaries.
So yes it is a bit hypocritical of the wester world to tell a country to have open elections then to turn its back on those elections, but it is not surprising seeing that the level or corruption both with hamas and fatah allowed for a terrorist organization to join the elections in the first place.
Also please keep in mind that the biggest reason hamas has so much power with the people is that hamas steals money from the government and then uses those ill gotten funds to support the populace. in the eys of a fair amount of the public hamas has been the ONLY humanitarian means that they have seen for a very long time.
education and money, lack of both, are more of a problem then dealing with an elected group of terrorists.