If you live in America, learn to speak english.Follow

simple if you can not communicate you can not perform 100% it is that simple. even at a labor job, you still have to communicate with someone and you still have to be able to read plans for said project you are working on.

does not matter if it is electrical, plumbing, carpentry, etc... in order to do the job 100% you have to have proper communication skills.

so they do have to communicate with someone. still would be much better for the union to of not highered them in the first place. cuts down on the cost of the foreman as the foreman then no longer has to be bilingual thus reducing the amount of pay he costs the company.

For example: I am in Japan on business, and have a non-fluent but advanced grasp of japanese. I would attempt to communicate with my japanese-speaking companions in Japanese at every opportunity.

They'd smile and see this as about as polite as pissing on their legs at dinner.

Mindbogglingly horrible example.

Who flamed you?

Would have been funnier...

Shit, by that time we'll both be on the hook anyway. Too late for secrets!

I have no problem with other that are unable to speak english if they come to this country. If they feel more comfortable speaking their native tongue, then that is their choice. As said it would be nice if they knew some english to help them get started.

But I do have a problem with the schools trying to make us learn a different language. I think that should be a choice, not a requirement. I think my friend said they are now making them learn Spanish, well least from my understanding they have to take it 1 year. I could of misunderstood him, if so then that is my fault, but I am pretty sure that I understood him right.

We had to take a year of a foreign language in high school, too. It's not that onerous.

Secondary language should be mandatory because, collectively, this country is dumb as ****. If only I had paid more attention in Middle School, I wouldn't be having such a hard time learning my soon to be's native tongue at this age.

I never said I would learn Spanish in a entire year, actually I never took it. The mandatory 1 year rule went into effect after I was out of high school. I graduated 8 years ago.

I honestly don't know what they teach in a year for Spanish. I do know that my friend that took it, he actually learned quite a bit. But every school teaches at their own pace or they teach other languages as well. Our only taught Spanish as the alternative.

I personally would like to learn Japanese, but I don't know how hard that is to learn. I would be willing to try though, just in case I ever decide to travel there one day.

Edited, Jul 18th 2007 12:37am by DecendentMonk

hmm lets cover some basics of business here.

1. in union restricted areas in order to get some jobs you MUST be a union member.
2. having multi-languages makes you more desirable to employees who have to work in parts of the US were a higher percentage of the labor force does not speak english clearly.
3. union members can not be fired easily.

so lets recap shall we.

1. the union allowed those who can not speak clear english to join.
2. this means a company that is required to higher union members will/can blindly higher them, but then can not fire them easily.
3. union members basically can not be fired unless they do not show up for work, or do the work so horrid that they are written up for it multiple times, or a few other extreeme reasons to fire someone. they can not be fired for not doing their job at a fast pace, in fact they can leave the job unfinished as long as they were "working" during their union hours.
4. bilingual employees in some areas will have an easier time getting a job, thus making it more difficult for someone who ONLY speaks english as their native language to get a job, thus taking MONEY out of their pocket. even though that english only speaking person is just as qualified if not MORE so it does not matter.


so with those things stated clearly. a company that highers union workers who can not, do not speak english is taking money out of the community by being forced to higher other employees who speak more then 1 language. also as a result of being a union labor force the company does not have to pay the bilingual employee any more even though he/she/it has more "training" in communication. this means unless all of the rest of the employable people in the area learn a 2nd or 3rd or more languages they will not be desirable for higher paying positions in the company that highers union workers who can not communicate properly.

this is one of the many reasons i HATE unions. they served their purpose decades ago, but in the US they are now more of a burden on the economy then they are a boon to the employee. your statements are a perfect example of my feelings.

i will state again. if you can not communicate 100% you can not do your job 100%. to have a translator is not the same as communicating your self.

and yes i know a lot about unions and i do not have to know the exact business you are in to know about them.

You break boards for a living, what the fuck do you think you know about anything? Face facts Sing, you live in Florida, surrounded by all those horrible brown people, so just admit your a racist prick and be done with it.

I can almost see you now, jumping up and down, ******* about them dirty brownies, dressed up in your American Flag Gi, taken your jobs, sucking up your taxes, all because they speak Spanish.