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When Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana confessed to "a very serious sin" on Monday night, Debra Jean Palfrey was not about to forgive him. Sin is one thing; but Palfrey believes Vitter — a proponent of the "sanctity of marriage" — should fess up if that sin was a crime as well. After all, she notes, prostitution is a legal offense for both purveyor and consumer. And as the so-called "D.C. Madam" whose escort service Vitter says he used, Palfrey says the agency she ran was merely one-half of the alleged equation. "Why am I the only person being prosecuted?" she told TIME over the phone. "Sen. Vitter should be prosecuted [if he broke the law]" Palfrey has been battling prostitution-related charges in federal court in Washington, and became a celebrity of sorts in May when ABC's 20/20 ran a story on her service "Pamela Martin & Associates." So far, one State Department official has resigned in connection with the scandal.
Man, if only he'd get right with god.
"Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling. Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way.
Oh, that's fine then. ***** them ********
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Honestly, it's no so much simply that Republicans get caught up in sex scandals. Everyone gets caught up in sex scandals. It's that the Republicans caught up in sex scandals are always the ones most full of fire and brimstone to look into everyone else's sex life and cast judgement upon it.
You'd think someone would learn.
You'd think someone would learn.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
You'd think someone would learn.
They're politicians. They've been getting away with far worse untouched for most of their lives.
The God card is getting a little old, though. Does that really work with the rednecks?
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
You'd think someone would learn.
They're politicians. They've been getting away with far worse untouched for most of their lives.
The God card is getting a little old, though. Does that really work with the rednecks?
It works for the skeptics unfortunately. The greatest tools of the devil are the Christians themselves.
This would've been better if the hooker was a guy.
"I have lost my way
But I hear a tale
About a heaven in Alberta
Where they've got all hell for a basement"
But I hear a tale
About a heaven in Alberta
Where they've got all hell for a basement"
This guy's my Senator, and to be honest he was the last guy (as opposed to bisexual Senators) I expected to be caught up in a scandal like this. I even thought he might be OK for a Republican. =(
By the way, someone should look for that quote from his wife Wendy in 2000. Something about what she'd do if he ever acted like this...
By the way, someone should look for that quote from his wife Wendy in 2000. Something about what she'd do if he ever acted like this...
The madam has a point, if someone confesses openly to employing the services of a hooker he/she should certainly be arrested. Choosing not to vigorously enforce certain laws or everyone who breaks such laws is one of the largest flaws in our justice system. In many cases it's a tacit admission that the laws themselves are flawed, but police and prosecutors and lawmakers would rather simply ignore them.
This leads to selective enforcement, good examples would be laws against underage sex such as that black dude in Georgia or somewhere got convicted for. Prostitution is another obvious one. Illegal immigrants and businesses that employ them. Jaywalking. Some traffic violations. Cussing in public. Verbal assault. Public inebriation.
Cops are free to walk the streets amidst dozens of people breaking laws which are 99% not enforced, free to select from those people whom they want to actually apply the infraction to. Prosecutors are free to select certain people who've violated idiotic laws such as the old **** sex laws, while ignoring others. People like the Senator are free to admit to breaking a law with no danger of enforcement of his crime.
Unenforced laws are a serious pet peeve of mine, maybe should save the rant for elsewhere though.
As for which party I could care less. Prostitution should be legal; it isn't; anyone currently prostituting/soliciting should be arrested. Period.
This leads to selective enforcement, good examples would be laws against underage sex such as that black dude in Georgia or somewhere got convicted for. Prostitution is another obvious one. Illegal immigrants and businesses that employ them. Jaywalking. Some traffic violations. Cussing in public. Verbal assault. Public inebriation.
Cops are free to walk the streets amidst dozens of people breaking laws which are 99% not enforced, free to select from those people whom they want to actually apply the infraction to. Prosecutors are free to select certain people who've violated idiotic laws such as the old **** sex laws, while ignoring others. People like the Senator are free to admit to breaking a law with no danger of enforcement of his crime.
Unenforced laws are a serious pet peeve of mine, maybe should save the rant for elsewhere though.
As for which party I could care less. Prostitution should be legal; it isn't; anyone currently prostituting/soliciting should be arrested. Period.
Unenforced laws are a serious pet peeve of mine, maybe should save the rant for elsewhere though.
Unenforced laws are the cornerstone of providing the illusion of a free society while actually engaging in tyranny. They're not going anywhere.
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Palpitus wrote:
The madam has a point, if someone confesses openly to employing the services of a hooker he/she should certainly be arrested. Choosing not to vigorously enforce certain laws or everyone who breaks such laws is one of the largest flaws in our justice system. In many cases it's a tacit admission that the laws themselves are flawed, but police and prosecutors and lawmakers would rather simply ignore them.
That's not the madam's point. Her point is that she's using her business list for her legal escort business as blackmail to try to wiggle out of her illegal prostitution operation.
Her alleged reason for releasing a list of names (only some of them mind you) from her legal escort business was to try to get people on the list to come forth and testify on her behalf that she wasn't doing anything illegal. Yeah. Right...
I guess what I'm least surprised with is that between the choice of names released to ABC, and the choice of those names ABC shared with us on 20/20, that so far the only two names of note were both Republicans. Really! Go figure...
And may I stress again that the services supplied at the escort service from which the list of names came are legal. Of course, doing something legal that is linked in any way to sex can still get a Republican booted from his job of course (not Dems though). Which is *also* the point.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Of course, doing something legal that is linked in any way to sex can still get a Republican booted from his job of course (not Dems though). Which is *also* the point.
Well, at least we both agree on that.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
gbaji wrote:
That's not the madam's point. Her point is that she's using her business list for her legal escort business as blackmail to try to wiggle out of her illegal prostitution operation.
Hm, no. Didn't you see his "confession" of a sin? Massage, going out to dinner, aren't sins. That confession plus his name on a list of clients plus her service being prosecuted for prostitution = a serious investigation at the least, holding the Senator for questioning/arrest at the most.
You can't publicly imply you screwed some chick who worked at an escort service under investigation for prostitution and not expect to get arrested or questioned for it. Oh wait, in this case you can because her point is valid. The laws are not universally enforced.
Caveat: This is the first I've heard of this case, I'm going purely by the OP, which sure seems like he's basically publicly admitted to being a john.
Palpitus wrote:
gbaji wrote:
That's not the madam's point. Her point is that she's using her business list for her legal escort business as blackmail to try to wiggle out of her illegal prostitution operation.
Hm, no. Didn't you see his "confession" of a sin? Massage, going out to dinner, aren't sins. That confession plus his name on a list of clients plus her service being prosecuted for prostitution = a serious investigation at the least, holding the Senator for questioning/arrest at the most.
Um... Not all sins are illegal. You are aware that to many strongly religious folk, going to a strip club is a sin, right? That's not illegal.
Hiring an escort isn't illegal either. But might be frowned upon by the wife. Hence the "sin" statement.
That's not to say I'm assuming that he didn't pay for a prostitute. My point is that we can't assume that based on the information we've been presented. The list of names the madam handed to ABC were specifically from the "legal" escort service she ran. We can speculate that *some* of those names may or may not have been involved in illegal activities, but we can't make an assumption just because a particular name appeared on that list.
Remember, her alleged purpose for sending that list of names to ABC was *not* to provide evidence of illegal activity. The purpose was to show the list of her "legal" clients, supposedly so that they'd step up and stand up in support of her allegation that she's running a completely legal business and that the charges of prostitution are bogus. Of course, we all know just how well that will ever work, so it's pretty obvious that the real point is that she's releasing a small number of names as a threat that she'll release a larger number if someone doesn't magically make her problems go away.
None of those names on the list can be detailing truely illegal behavior, or she'd be condemning herself (admitting to running a prostitution ring). She's playing some semantic games to maximize the effect of what she's doing, but she can't actually say "this is a list of people who purchased prostitutes from me", or she sinks her own boat. Of course, she can *imply* that that's what they are, and the media will do her strongarming for her...
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You can't publicly imply you screwed some chick who worked at an escort service under investigation for prostitution and not expect to get arrested or questioned for it. Oh wait, in this case you can because her point is valid. The laws are not universally enforced.
Publically "imply"? Um... I can walk right up to a police officer right now and imply that I smoked a big bong of pot last weekend and he'll probably laugh and tell me to make sure to keep it off the streets. I could regail the same police officer about how many hookers I bought during my MJ binge as well. Same result.
Like it or not, these are vice offenses. Vice rules work differently. They have to pretty much catch you in the act, or there's no crime. Someone claiming that someone else hired a hooker is going to be a pretty impossible sell to any judge. Of course, it sells quite well in the media if the person involved is a celebrity or politician.
Again. Don't take any of this to mean I magically know that this particular person didn't hire a hooker and have sex with her. I have no way to know that. I'm just saying that the information presented in the article does not present suffficient information to be charging him with a crime. The only way that's going to happen is if she does get nailed and does decide to testify about which names are associated with illegal activities. And unless she's got another hidden set of files somewhere with actual transaction records and lists of "services", I'm not sure how well that will work. Because the escort service was a legal business. We have to assume that the set of books for that business are "clean", or she'd be in much hotter water then she is already.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
Gbaji wrote:
Um... Not all sins are illegal. You are aware that to many strongly religious folk, going to a strip club is a sin, right? That's not illegal.
Hiring an escort isn't illegal either. But might be frowned upon by the wife. Hence the "sin" statement.
Hiring an escort isn't illegal either. But might be frowned upon by the wife. Hence the "sin" statement.
Yeah, I'm just going by the OP quote:
"Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling. Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way"
That seems a bit much for just hiring an escort for dinner/dancing/conversation. Or to be discussing with God.
Again, I'm also just going solely by this thread, which doesn't mention a list, or that part of the escort service was legitimate. I haven't seen any of this nonsense on the news. Mainly I just used it as a platform to launch my anti-unenforcement rant.
As for her motives, reviewing it I'm a bit thrown by the editor's decision to include "[if he broke the law]" in brackets. I attributed that as a paraphrase of Palfrey's words. But now it seems more likely to be an idiotic editor's attempt to "clarify" when he's actually adding an important nuance to her statement all on his own.
Frankly who realy gives a sh*t.
I could care any less if he where found blowing a goat, it's between him and his wife no-one else. The only thing i am interested in with any politician is WAS HE ANY GOOD AT HIS JOB?
The same applies to the guy fitting my kitchen, fighting for my country, washing my car.
I don't give a rats *** if they are banging someone behind thier wives back, i don't care if they have a different sexual orientation to me or different skin coloUr i just want a good job done.
Why you lot think these people(Politicians) are in anyway different to the rest of society is beyond me. If we all just said once and for all, "Your private life is indipendant of you political life" them maybe just maybe it would start to be about policy rather than personality and we would get competant people in the higher levels of govenment for a change.
I could care any less if he where found blowing a goat, it's between him and his wife no-one else. The only thing i am interested in with any politician is WAS HE ANY GOOD AT HIS JOB?
The same applies to the guy fitting my kitchen, fighting for my country, washing my car.
I don't give a rats *** if they are banging someone behind thier wives back, i don't care if they have a different sexual orientation to me or different skin coloUr i just want a good job done.
Why you lot think these people(Politicians) are in anyway different to the rest of society is beyond me. If we all just said once and for all, "Your private life is indipendant of you political life" them maybe just maybe it would start to be about policy rather than personality and we would get competant people in the higher levels of govenment for a change.
Jophiel wrote:
Everyone gets caught up in sex scandals.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
Baron von tarv wrote:
Frankly who realy gives a sh*t.
I could care any less if he where found blowing a goat, it's between him and his wife no-one else. The only thing i am interested in with any politician is WAS HE ANY GOOD AT HIS JOB?
I could care any less if he where found blowing a goat, it's between him and his wife no-one else. The only thing i am interested in with any politician is WAS HE ANY GOOD AT HIS JOB?
Well, clearly he felt that part of his job was to proselytize to voters about his good values and moral, family-oriented platform. That he was using an escort service whilst fronting as the good Christian is more than just delicious irony; it speaks to his credibility as a public figure and authoritarian.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
More to the story?
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U.S. Senator David Vitter visited a Canal Street brothel several times beginning in the mid-1990s, paying $300 per hour for services at the bordello after he met the madam at a fishing rodeo that included prostitutes and other politicians, according to Jeanette Maier, the "Canal Street Madam" whose operation was shut down by a federal investigators in 2001.
After they met, Maier said Vitter became a customer at the Mid-City brothel. He made several visits, she said, but had stopped coming before federal agents raided the brothel
After they met, Maier said Vitter became a customer at the Mid-City brothel. He made several visits, she said, but had stopped coming before federal agents raided the brothel
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In 1999, Vitter was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives. On Monday, Vitter apologized after it was revealed his telephone number appeared among those associated with an escort service in Washington D.C. operated by the so-called "D.C. Madam." In an e-mail Monday night, Vitter apologized for a "very serious sin in my past."
At the New Orleans brothel, Maier said Vitter spent time with several women, but preferred one in particular named Wendy. She said all the girls that were with Vitter described him as a kind, respectful man, who did not talk down to them or use drugs.
At the New Orleans brothel, Maier said Vitter spent time with several women, but preferred one in particular named Wendy. She said all the girls that were with Vitter described him as a kind, respectful man, who did not talk down to them or use drugs.
Yep. Sounds like he was there to drink lemonade and save souls, all right.
Poor persecuted baby.
Poor persecuted baby.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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The only thing i am interested in with any politician is WAS HE ANY GOOD AT HIS JOB?
He is awful. Instead of helping the people of Louisiana he's busy getting his nob slobbed. The ******* should be flogged.
I always knew Vitter was a creep, I still can't believe we elected him to the senate. But then, we did put landrieu in there, so go figure.
Fortunately his fellow Republicans are right there, doing their part to take the heat.
Or something.
I suppose the real estate bribes just aren't coming in like they used to.
Or something.
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TITUSVILLE, Fla. -- Florida state Rep. Robert "Bob" Allen, R-Merritt Island, was arrested Wednesday and charged with soliciting an undercover male officer for sex at a park in Central Florida, according to police.
Investigators said Allen was acting suspicious and went in and out of the men's restroom at Veteran's Memorial Park, located on East Broad Street.
Minutes later, authorities said, Allen solicited the male officer inside the restroom, offering to perform oral sex for $20.
Investigators said Allen was acting suspicious and went in and out of the men's restroom at Veteran's Memorial Park, located on East Broad Street.
Minutes later, authorities said, Allen solicited the male officer inside the restroom, offering to perform oral sex for $20.
I suppose the real estate bribes just aren't coming in like they used to.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Abadd wrote:
I always knew Vitter was a creep, I still can't believe we elected him to the senate. But then, we did put landrieu in there, so go figure.
If you're in any way reprensentative of Louisiana's voters, it all makes perfect sense.
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Allen solicited the male officer inside the restroom, offering to perform oral sex for $20.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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oral sex for $20
god I hope he wasn't really doing it for the money.
Jophiel wrote:
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Allen solicited the male officer inside the restroom, offering to perform oral sex for $20.
Yeah, I dunno, maybe he thought they were lobbyists.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
I just wish I'd known that this was a career path before I spent all that money on college.
Edited, Jul 11th 2007 8:43pm by Jophiel
Edited, Jul 11th 2007 8:43pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
well aparently its never to late to look into a change in careers
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