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#1 Jul 08 2007 at 9:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Cindy Sheehan, the soldier's mother who galvanized the anti-war movement, said Sunday that she plans to seek House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's congressional seat unless she introduces articles of impeachment against President Bush in the next two weeks.

Sheehan said she will run against the San Francisco Democrat in 2008 as an independent if Pelosi does not seek by July 23 to impeach Bush. That's when Sheehan and her supporters are to arrive in Washington, D.C., after a 13-day caravan and walking tour starting next week from the group's war protest site near Bush's Crawford ranch.
I'm sure Pelosi is shaking in her grandmotherly boots. It'd be a good way to waste some money though!
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#2 Jul 08 2007 at 9:35 PM Rating: Decent
You know, I want to see Bush impeached, only because we could all look at Gbaji and say "HA-HA".



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#4 Jul 09 2007 at 7:11 AM Rating: Decent
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I thought she quit politics after realizing she was a loony?
#5 Jul 09 2007 at 7:45 AM Rating: Decent
Heh, she'll make a fine Pol, she is already going back on her word!


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"I am going to take whatever I have left and go home," she wrote. "I am going to go home and be a mother to my surviving children and try to regain some of what I have lost.



Cause that sounds alot like "Running for political office".

Aparently a month without anyone paying attention to her was too long for her to take.
#6 Jul 09 2007 at 7:58 AM Rating: Default
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I doubt she's really serious about it, it's probably more of a "C'mon nah!" to Pelosi.
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Aparently a month without anyone paying attention to her was too long for her to take.


Could be that, or it could be the fact that her child was killed for no particular reason and then she was deionized by cowards for saying so got to be a little old.

Hard to say, really.
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#8 Jul 09 2007 at 8:11 AM Rating: Good
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Could be that, or it could be the fact that her child was killed for no particular reason and then she was deionized by cowards for saying so got to be a little old.

You're cute in that yipping puppy sort of way.

She's no different from the local Minnesota Wetterling lady who lost a kid, can't hack reality and charges off to tilt a single issue for the rest of her life. She's nuttier than a sh;tty fruitcake, an attention ***** and nobody listens anymore. Even her "progressive" friends in the lunatic fringe of the Democrat party can't stand to listen to her whine anymore. Anyone who actually cares for the woman should introduce her to a hint and learn her how to take one.
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You know, I want to see Bush impeached, only because we could all look at Gbaji and say "HA-HA".





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She's no different from the local Minnesota Wetterling lady who lost a kid, can't hack reality and charges off to tilt a single issue for the rest of her life. She's nuttier than a sh;tty fruitcake, an attention ***** and nobody listens anymore. Even her "progressive" friends in the lunatic fringe of the Democrat party can't stand to listen to her whine anymore.


And?

Assuming that's all true for the sake of argument, none of that changes the fact that her child was killed for no purpose and that she's been criticized by cowards with no comprehension of her pain. You, for instance. I'm not a Cindy Sheean supporter or apologist, but facts are facts. What she decided to do to deal with the loss of her son took great courage. Criticizing her personally for it takes none and is largely undertaken by massive quivering pussies who like the idea of other people's kids risking their lives because they think it shows how "tough" America is and therefore they must not really be inadequate losers because they're Americans. Of course they'd fall on the ground in tears if faced with the prospect of any actual personal danger, which is why they're so offended by her.

You know how that is, though, don't you?

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#11 Jul 09 2007 at 8:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Could be that, or it could be the fact that her child was killed for no particular reason and then she was deionized by cowards for saying so got to be a little old.


Yeah I think thats why she said she quit 40 some days ago; to spend time with the rest of her family, and put her life together. Aparently family and a life were not as important to her as she thought.


Edit: Quite != quit :p

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Yeah I think thats why she said she quite 40 some days ago; to spend time with the rest of her family, and put her life together. Aparently family and a life were not as important to her as she thought.


What is your point, exactly? That a woman who lived through her son dying for a pointless failed political gesture lied? Ok, she lied. Continue on to why that matters at all.
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#13 Jul 09 2007 at 8:23 AM Rating: Decent
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I suppose a mother would whack out a bit losing a child to a worthless cause, a careless accident, or a preventable disease. Mother activist's are nothing new. Just look at MADD and all the other MAxx orgs. Some of them actually change policy, save lives, etc.

Loony she may be, and at this point, even those who agree with her may be hard-pressed to take her seriously. But, she forced the issue. How many of us, that would just as soon see this war end can say the same...??
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#14 Jul 09 2007 at 8:27 AM Rating: Decent
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But, she forced the issue.


She forced the issue, and the population of the country largely moved from disagreeing to agreeing with her. That doesn't establish cause and effect, but it's likely to make it harder for her to leave public life when she almost certainly feels like she had something to do with changing opinions regardless if she actually did or not.
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#15 Jul 09 2007 at 8:37 AM Rating: Decent
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What is your point, exactly? That a woman who lived through her son dying for a pointless failed political gesture lied? Ok, she lied. Continue on to why that matters at all.


Well my original statement was
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Heh, she'll make a fine Pol, she is already going back on her word


Think a Pelosi/Sheehan showdown will be quite entertaining to watch TBH. Dead drunk, Pelosi has more political sense then Sheehan has on her best days, so I think its safe to say the only outcome of this is that Sheehan will be even more marginalized. Pretty much the last thing the Democratic party wants to do is give the Repulicans something to rally around like an impeachment process that would have about the same over all effect on who is president as the last one.

#16 Jul 09 2007 at 8:40 AM Rating: Good
So you're a quivering coward of a p'ussy as well for arguing the point resorting to personal attacks on my character?

Just wanted to clear that up, thanks.

At 18 I tried to enlist in the Marine Corps. I was turned away for being physically unfit for military service. The woman's son enlisted voluntarily for military service, knowing full well that as a member of the armed forces he might, at some point in his distinguished career, be called upon to pick up a weapon and get shot at. Arguing the merits of the war is a fruitless activity because it was authorized by the Democrats as well, with the same intelligence the President had. Your characterization that it is nothing more than a pointless failed political gesture does more to trivialize the sacrifices made by the members of the services and their families than anything I could possibly do or say. The fact remains that the woman is off the reservation, regardless of the suitability of the reasons, and would do well to take her crazy *** back to her comfortable home, living out her days in obscurity. It'll never happen though.
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Think a Pelosi/Sheehan showdown will be quite entertaining to watch TBH. Dead drunk, Pelosi has more political sense then Sheehan has on her best days, so I think its safe to say the only outcome of this is that Sheehan will be even more marginalized.
There wouldn't ever be a question of who'd win.

Above all else, Pelosi is Speaker of the House and will continue to be should Democrats retain control of the House in 2008 (which they most likely will). No one is going to vote out their congressional representative who also just so happens to be leader of the House. It was the same scenario last year in Illinois -- while there was still a good chance that the Republicans would have the House, people in Hastert's weren't going to vote him out. It's just too useful to have the guy representing your district also run the whole show.

Edit: a quick spat of research indicates that, in 1992, Washington Rep. Foley was Speaker and lost his re-election bid largely due to angering voters by filing federal suit against a state referendum regarding term limits which the state population had passed. Prior to him, no sitting Speaker had been voted out since 1860.

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To add a corollary to what Joph is saying - I don't believe Sheehan would seriously expect to win. It's another way to bring attention to the cause she's espoused.
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So you're a quivering coward of a p'ussy as well for arguing the point resorting to personal attacks on my character?


Your son died in Iraq?

I realize it's difficult to read all the words and then take the hours required to understand them before replying, but it's honestly probably worth it.


Just wanted to clear that up, thanks.

At 18 I tried to enlist in the Marine Corps. I was turned away for being physically unfit for military service. The woman's son enlisted voluntarily for military service, knowing full well that as a member of the armed forces he might, at some point in his distinguished career, be called upon to pick up a weapon and get shot at.


Yes, but probably not with the expectation that he'd be put into that situation for no reason. I don't know the history of the dead Sheean, so maybe that's not the case. Maybe he joined up specifically to fight in Iraq with full awareness of it's pointlessness and was willing to die over it.


Arguing the merits of the war is a fruitless activity because it was authorized by the Democrats as well, with the same intelligence the President had.


I have no idea what you're driving at here. None. It's pointless to argue the merits of a war where thousands of US troops died and tens of thousands were crippled for life because both political parties agreed to let the president decide if force was required? Are you on crack? I'm not a Democratic Congressperson. I didn't think this war was a good idea from day one. I thought it was poorly planned and said so, here, before the war started. I said there was a massive flaw in DoD planing because the civilian administrators overestimated the value of air power and special forces and didn't have enough ground troops allocated to pacify the country. Am I allowed to argue the merits of it now?

What you're really trying to say is "you can't blame the people I voted for, because the people you voted for were equally stupid," isn't it? That's really your argument? Equivocation? Do you actually mean to suggest that it's just as likely a President and Congress controlled by Democrats would have taken the same course of action? You and I both know that's a preposterous theory.

This war was a political experiment driven by the desire of a small group of people with virtually no military experience who wanted to test a theory they believed in. That's it. It's inarguable. The experiment failed and the cost of that failure was pain in the lives of thousands of American kids and hundreds of thousands of other people you won't bother to care about because they don't look or sound like you.

Period.


Your characterization that it is nothing more than a pointless failed political gesture does more to trivialize the sacrifices made by the members of the services and their families than anything I could possibly do or say.


Their sacrifices *are* trivial. It has nothing to do with how I characterize them, nor does it have anything to do with their personal intentions. They are trivial because they will accomplish nothing, and that fact was a choice made by people other than them. People chose to allow US troops to die. At some point, someone literally made the decision that that it was worth other people's children dying to try and accomplish something they wanted. That's what war is, always. Sometimes war accomplishes something and depending on what is accomplished the deaths of our citizens have more or less value. If Cindy Sheean's kid had died stopping someone from detonating a nuclear device in LA, his death would have had more meaning. If he had died jerking off with a plastic bag tied around his head, it would have had less meaning. It's not all equal. Pat Tillman getting shot in the back of the head by friendly fire isn't the same as a guy diving on a grenade to spare the lives of 20 people. It just isn't. Trying to equivocate all deaths is stupid and pointless.


The fact remains that the woman is off the reservation, regardless of the suitability of the reasons, and would do well to take her crazy *** back to her comfortable home, living out her days in obscurity. It'll never happen though.


Do well for who? You, because you wouldn't have to think about the pointless deaths of thousands of people as much? You disagree with her political philosophy, so somehow you envision this gives you the right to judge her? By your own horribly ****** up logic and morals, shouldn't the facts of what shes been through prevent you from doing so?

Shouldn't the fact that her son died for his country while you sat home and played video games prevent you from insulting her personally for standing up for what she believes? I guess not. I guess what you believe is that is everyone's pain and personal beliefs are meaningless if they're not yours, and that's the whole political philosophy of the right, isn't it? Give me everything, take from everyone else.

You're the perfect Republican. Congratulations.

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#20 Jul 09 2007 at 9:15 AM Rating: Decent
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There wouldn't ever be a question of who'd win.


I very much agree, however there are two seperate ways (well three but I'll get to that later) that Pelosi can deal with this:

1) Ignore Sheehan completly, which will serve to marginalize her further

2) Point out the rediculousness of her current ultimatum, again will marginalize her further

On the other hand, Pelosi could attempt to bring Sheehan into the fold and talk some sense into her, however Sheehan would then be betraying the faith of her strongest supporters, something I doubt she would want to do.
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I wanna be "deionized." I think it'd help with my allergies. Just sayin'.

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#22 Jul 09 2007 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
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And Smash, your assertion that certain "facts" are just that: facts, does nothing to change the real fact that most of your facts are just opinions. But please, carry on with your infallible argument about how the outcome of this war is predestined to failure and that a fallen soldier has tossed his life away for nothing.

Given your logic, we should never have overthrown the British, taken on the pirates of Tripoli, or attempted intervening in Europe, circa 1941. The future was pretty grim for those efforts too, just to name a few.

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And Smash, your assertion that certain "facts" are just that: facts, does nothing to change the real fact that most of your facts are just opinions. But please, carry on with your infallible argument about how the outcome of this war is predestined to failure and that a fallen soldier has tossed his life away for nothing.


Explain to me the possible outcome where there isn't the case.


Given your logic, we should never have overthrown the British, taken on the pirates of Tripoli, or attempted intervening in Europe, circa 1941. The future was pretty grim for those efforts too, just to name a few.


By your logic the war in Iraq is comparable to World War 2 or the American Revolution in terms of the risk to American lives when balanced again what could be gained by military action. Is this really the road you want to go down, because while I'm happy to point out the stupidity of that argument, I can't imagine it's really what you mean.

Let me know.

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Hang on, Ssmash, I can't talk right now-- I'm on the phone with the Pentagon's military planners. I've told them I know a guy who can give them the skinny on any and all future conflicts, thus ensuring a 100% success ratio. Needless to say, they are very interested in meeting you.

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By your logic the war in Iraq is comparable to World War 2 or the American Revolution
I dunno... Bush was, rather amusingly, try to cast the Iraq conflict into the same light as the Revolution this past July 4th. Just in case Saddam/Hitler comparisons weren't strained enough, now we have the insurgents playing the role of the British Empire in this noble battle.
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Hang on, Ssmash, I can't talk right now-- I'm on the phone with the Pentagon's military planners. I've told them I know a guy who can give them the skinny on any and all future conflicts, thus ensuring a 100% success ratio. Needless to say, they are very interested in meeting you.


Try harder. At least be funny.

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