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#27 Jun 17 2007 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I'm sure an 11-year-old is capable of getting your car keys, unless you lock them in a safe. I don't think the keys are the "key" issue here.

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Funnily enough, I was never presented with a hermetically sealed car trunk as a playpen, or open bottles of bleach lying in accessible places.

See, my parents had enough brains to keep us away from places where our stupidity/naivety/innocence could prove fatal.
I was gonna reply with something similar, but Nobby said it soooooo well there's no point.

If I had my mom's car keys, it was with my mom's expressed permission because I was opening something for her with her 10 feet away.
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#28 Jun 17 2007 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good
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So how exactly do you prevent an 11-year-old from getting your keys?


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#29 Jun 17 2007 at 4:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually close to 100 children a year die from heat exhaustion in car trunks, old freezers, and refriderators.


*giggle*

Ironic.
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#30 Jun 17 2007 at 4:30 PM Rating: Decent
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So how exactly do you prevent an 11-year-old from getting your keys?


By not leaving them lying around like a dumbass.
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It is a tragic loss, and I feel for them...kind of. Like Nobby and some others have stated, those children had NO BUSINESS playing in the trunk of that car. Parents that irresponsible do not deserve the privilege of having children.


Irresponsible parents? Granted they could be, but I doubt this was the culprit. You let them outside to play @ lunchtime, and 1-1:30 , barely an hour plus later, 2 dead kids. Gated community: check, fenced-in yard: check, Locked car: doesnt matter. Kids can get into anything with enough time. (see: Christmas Presents). Kids love to play in cars, they are about the best toy you do/will ever have to play with. No matter your parenting skill, level of caring etc, there will be an hour here or there when you will not see them. And of course,thats more than enough time for them to corps-ify themselves.
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#32 Jun 17 2007 at 4:57 PM Rating: Good
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Pawkeshup the Meaningless wrote:
trickybeck wrote:

So how exactly do you prevent an 11-year-old from getting your keys?


By not leaving them lying around like a dumbass.

And where to you intend to put them that your 11-year-old couldn't get them?


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#33 Jun 17 2007 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
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trickybeck wrote:
Pawkeshup the Meaningless wrote:
trickybeck wrote:

So how exactly do you prevent an 11-year-old from getting your keys?


By not leaving them lying around like a dumbass.

And where to you intend to put them that your 11-year-old couldn't get them?


My mom's keys were in her purse. I did not go into the purse. Why? Because if I did my mom would punish me. See, a parent can train their kid not to do stuff they don't want them to do.

It's really bizarre. Do you know how many kids I knew died in trunks of cars? 0. Why? Because parents were actually parents. They didn't let T.V.'s be babysitters, they didn't try to understand junior's needs. They taught them right from wrong, and gave them real boundaries.
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#34 Jun 17 2007 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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So you've invalidated your previous statement.

If you can psychologically train your kid not to go into your purse, you can psychologically train them not to play in the trunk.

Hence, the keys are irrelevant.

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#35 Jun 17 2007 at 5:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Meh, I played in all sorts of scenarios as a youth which could have been the death of me. My survival wasn't due to any great brilliance or "Darwin's", but simply that the dice of Fate never rolled that way when I was playing in construction sites or forests or rusted out construction cranes and storage trailers or abandoned houses or whatever. At least I have some cool memories as a result.

A pity about the children. But it's good to see that so many others were either gifted with exceptional risk assessment skills around age ten and/or were kept in padded rooms by their mothers.

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I miss my padded room.

Mmmmm, comfy.
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#37 Jun 18 2007 at 7:37 AM Rating: Good
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Meh, I played in all sorts of scenarios as a youth which could have been the death of me. My survival wasn't due to any great brilliance or "Darwin's", but simply that the dice of Fate never rolled that way when I was playing in construction sites or forests or rusted out construction cranes and storage trailers or abandoned houses or whatever. At least I have some cool memories as a result.


QFT

I think back to all the things I've done and I realize that I was just extremely lucky to have not gotten myself killed.
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#38 Jun 18 2007 at 7:44 AM Rating: Good
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Luck or weighted dice. My saving throws were just better than some of the kids I played with. I think it was the +2 safe fall spiderman underoos I wore.
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I had an awesome pair of Wonder Woman panties. I used to wrap tinfoil around my wrists for the bracelets. Smiley: blush
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I had an awesome pair of Wonder Woman panties. I used to wrap tinfoil around my wrists for the bracelets.

I was 23 at the time.Smiley: blush
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I had an awesome pair of Wonder Woman panties. I used to wrap tinfoil around my wrists for the bracelets.
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Pawkeshup the Meaningless wrote:
My mom's keys were in her purse. I did not go into the purse. Why? Because if I did my mom would punish me.


What kind of kid lets the mere threat of "punishment" keep them out of anything?
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#43 Jun 18 2007 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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What kind of kid lets the mere threat of "punishment" keep them out of anything?

Depends on the punishment. Trust me.
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#44 Jun 18 2007 at 5:31 PM Rating: Good
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Depends on the punishment. Trust me.

QFT

My parental units were strict, and you were only told 'No' once. After that I was lucky to be able to sit down an hour later.

While it is sad the kids died, in the end it is really the responsability of the parents and adults around them to teach them not to play in cars, freezers, etc. I knew not to play with guns at 5, and not to play in the car when I was a little older.
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What kind of kid lets the mere threat of "punishment" keep them out of anything?

Depends on the punishment. Trust me.

Not necessarily true. There were lectures, pushups, extra chores, groundings, things taken away, and even full out beatings (not spankings) My brother and I would never listen. It wasn't until I became an adult that I became the person I am today. Some lessons just take longer than others.
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Not necessarily true. There were lectures, pushups, extra chores, groundings, things taken away, and even full out beatings (not spankings) My brother and I would never listen. It wasn't until I became an adult that I became the person I am today. Some lessons just take longer than others.
That your parents sucked so bad at parenting that they either couldn't find, or didn't have the will to impose, a punishment that resonated with you doesn't make the statement less true. Sorry you had sh;t parents.
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#47 Jun 19 2007 at 12:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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I learned that this was a bad idea from Punky Brewster. Who needs parents?

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#48 Jun 19 2007 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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Nexa wrote:
I learned that this was a bad idea from Punky Brewster. Who needs parents?

Nexa

I don't know what was more traumatizing, that Punky Brewster episode, or the one where Webster finds the secret passageway and gets trapped in the room with a life-size female doll in the rocking chair.

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#49 Jun 19 2007 at 12:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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I learned that this was a bad idea from Punky Brewster. Who needs parents?

Nexa

I don't know what was more traumatizing, that Punky Brewster episode, or the one where Webster finds the secret passageway and gets trapped in the room with a life-size female doll in the rocking chair.


Any episode of Zoobilee Zoo. Those guys were just creepy.

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#50 Jun 19 2007 at 12:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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While it is sad the kids died, in the end it is really the responsability of the parents and adults around them to teach them not to play in cars, freezers, etc.
That's kind of the point of the thread. A heads-up that older trunks can be a deathtrap so that we may educate our wee ones.
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#51 Jun 19 2007 at 1:20 PM Rating: Good
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trickybeck wrote:
Nexa wrote:
I learned that this was a bad idea from Punky Brewster. Who needs parents?

Nexa

I don't know what was more traumatizing, that Punky Brewster episode, or the one where Webster finds the secret passageway and gets trapped in the room with a life-size female doll in the rocking chair.



What's truly disturbing is that the two of you watched these shows.
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