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#27 Jun 15 2007 at 12:34 PM Rating: Good
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Actually, no. The private hospitals just wait for the next am-boo-lance that comes available and load the indigy up and cart them off to the county hospital. Or they do a wallet check and take them there to begin with.

The problem with indigies is that with no medical insurance the state provided pie is only so big and not everybody can get their expenses paid. The secret is to bill immediately and get your slice before anybody else does-- that this is something that ambulance providers do quite well, unlike most hospitals whose bill collections staff goes home at 5 PM. My company, for example, demands the medical crew to have their billing paperwork completed and faxed to the billing department (which runs 24 hours a day) within 30 minutes of landing.

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#28 Jun 15 2007 at 12:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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After all, our present medical system is what trial lawyers and outrageous malpractice settlements have so effectively given you.


Or at least that's the way the insurance companies tell it.
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#29 Jun 15 2007 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
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Here's a question the article didn't answer: Are the Rodriguezes illegal immigrants? Given their inability to habla Inglais and their proximity to Tijuana, I'd say that there is a good chance they are.

How does that impact this discussion? Well, illegals are overtaxing the system with all their newborn ninos and tortilla induced coronaries, leaving less medical care dollars for real 'Mericans. Time to am-boo-lance their a$$ back to TJ where they can purchase all the OTC valium and percocet they need to stop the pain while they wait for Pedro the unlicensed physician to operate with rusty flatware.

Boot 'em out. Don't need more Messicans. Please, think of the American children!

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Actually, no. The private hospitals just wait for the next am-boo-lance that comes available and load the indigy up and cart them off to the county hospital.
Aside from that being wrong, it's an excellent point.

I guess I'll let Flea tell you herself how things are handled at the private hospital where she works. I don't doubt that there's private hospitals which work that way (which wouldn't have helped this woman anyway). I'm speaking of ones in low-income areas which serve that particular region.

Edited, Jun 15th 2007 3:44pm by Jophiel
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#31 Jun 15 2007 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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No, Sammy, that's what doctors and medical instrument manufacturers are telling us. The costs always get passed on to the consumer.

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#32 Jun 15 2007 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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It is an excellent point, Jo, because that's the way it's done around here.

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#33 Jun 15 2007 at 12:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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It is an excellent point, Jo, because that's the way it's done around here.
So, you're saying that if the hospital was privatized, she could have just died on the ride to County instead of at least potentially receiving care where she was?

Well! That sounds much better!
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#34 Jun 15 2007 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
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Hey, think of it as saving money for someone with a better chance of survival. I'm telling you, eating jalepenos and habeneros is a one way ticket to the graveyard via a perforated bowel.

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#35 Jun 15 2007 at 1:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Totem wrote:
No, Sammy, that's what doctors and medical instrument manufacturers are telling us. The costs always get passed on to the consumer.

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Because it's what the insurance companies are telling THEM as they jack up the cost of malpractice insurance to cover "all those horrendously expensive payouts".

The numbers don't add up. 'Sall I'm saying.
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#36 Jun 15 2007 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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However, I still don't understand why the USA maintains a system that costs so much more than ours, leaves millions of people uninsured and requires most of you to supplement the cost with additional insurance premia.


You can take away our lives... But you'll never take our FREEDOM!!!


It's us funny Americans. We'd rather increase our risks, even pay more, as long as it doesn't mean we have an overbearing government telling us what we can and can't do. Yeah. I know. You've heard this before. Maybe it's even getting old. But that *is* why we do things the way we do them.

If we'd been any different, we'd still be British subjects. Think about it...
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#37 Jun 15 2007 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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It's us funny Americans. We'd rather increase our risks, even pay more, as long as it doesn't mean we have an overbearing government telling us what we can and can't do.
Ahem.

You pay more compulsory tax on healthcare than I do. Never mind arguments about welfare checks or free translation services for ******** on how to use cocaine safely while robbing the local 8 til late.

You cannot choose whether to pay it or not. The ebil gubberment takes it from you, regardless of your wishes. They even use it to fund treatment for homosexualists, atheists and people of coloUr! You cannot legally withold it or opt out, regardless of your principles.

You're living in a liberal socialist tyranny mate!

Same here. But I don't have any medical bills or health insurance premia to worry about.

If you want to defend scrapping Medicare and Medicaid, that would at least be consistent with your "small gub'ment" arguments. Stupid, but consistent.

You appear to be defending a socialist model that is economically incompetent, whilst enshrining the worst 'do-gooder' liberal principles.

FUcking nonce! Smiley: lol

Edited, Jun 15th 2007 5:40pm by Nobby
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#38 Jun 15 2007 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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And with no teeth, you can happily gum your governesses' massive teats with slobbering abandon while she canes your tweed covered a$$. What a utopia!

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If we'd been any different, we'd still be British subjects. Think about it...
We'd have universal health care?
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