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#27 Jun 07 2007 at 11:39 AM Rating: Default
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I dunno... I have a feeling that if I was caught driving on a suspended license, warned, signed a statement that I was warned for it then caught again driving on the same suspended license, I wouldn't be released with a hug.

You're not very familiar with the probation and parole system, are you?


I am, and she got off because of who she was. A normal person, white or black, would have served the 23 day sentence if they were lucky. More likely though, is that they would have served the full 45 day sentence as orders by the judge.

Edited, Jun 7th 2007 3:40pm by xtremereign
#28 Jun 07 2007 at 11:46 AM Rating: Good
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I dunno... I have a feeling that if I was caught driving on a suspended license, warned, signed a statement that I was warned for it then caught again driving on the same suspended license, I wouldn't be released with a hug.

You're not very familiar with the probation and parole system, are you?


I am, and she got off because of who she was. A normal person, white or black, would have served the 23 day sentence if they were lucky. More likely though, is that they would have served the full 45 day sentence as orders by the judge.

Edited, Jun 7th 2007 3:40pm by xtremereign

Bzzzzzzzzzzzt! Wrong answer. I've a number of friends from the wrong side of the tracks, all of which are more or less always in trouble with the law. It's not uncommon for the majority of the sentence to be suspended, regardless of the fact that the jail time is "mandatory". Go sit in a court room some time.
#29 Jun 07 2007 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
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I am, and she got off because of who she was. A normal person, white or black, would have served the 23 day sentence if they were lucky. More likely though, is that they would have served the full 45 day sentence as orders by the judge.


It's the LA county jail. They're ridiculously overcrowded. Basically, if you aren't in there for a violent offense, you serve a tiny fraction of your sentence. 3 days out of a 45 day sentence is I believe *longer* then the average for someone doing something as minor as driving on a suspended license (violating probation for the aforementioned charge actually, but whatever).

If anything her fame and money caused her to serve a longer sentence because of the publicity involved. The powers that be in LA would rather not admit that it's normal to just walk people around to the back door after an hour or so in a holding tank when they're supposed to be serving a month or two. They had to hold her for a few days to come up with an excuse that the public might buy.
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#30 Jun 07 2007 at 3:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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If anything her fame and money caused her to serve a longer sentence because of the publicity involved.
She was booked yesterday. I don't think the sun managed to both rise and set upon her cell window before she was out.

I'm not arguing the crowded nature or anything, but the only way she could have served a "longer sentence" than most would be if most served a 45min term.
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#31 Jun 07 2007 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I was going off the original statement of 3 days. It's not like I follow the comings and goings of Paris Hilton (haha!).
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I might be wrong then. I could have sworn I first read the "Paris was booked" stories yesterday.

Oh well, time flies when Paris is in jail.
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It's the LA county jail. They're ridiculously overcrowded.


She was in the "special needs" section (and how appropriate is that?), with no cell mate. Unless the L.A. city council had a gunfight over the budget or something I hardly think the section dedicated to cops and high-profile inmates is as overcrowded as Cell Block B, or whatever.
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I'm sure it costs them less to house a special needs prisoner too!

Why do you think the jail is so overcroweded?
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I seriously doubt the expense of keeping her housed in jail was the issue.

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#36 Jun 07 2007 at 7:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Bzzzzzzzzzzzt! Wrong answer. I've a number of friends from the wrong side of the tracks, all of which are more or less always in trouble with the law. It's not uncommon for the majority of the sentence to be suspended, regardless of the fact that the jail time is "mandatory". Go sit in a court room some time.


In Australia we had a big "Truth in Sentencing" reform several years back. I'm not intimately aquainted with all the details, so corrections are welcome, but it goes something like this:

The judges and prison officials got together to look at how much time prisoners *actually* served for many many different types of offenses... even catogorising by circumstances within types of offenses.

The judges then started sentencing according to the *actual* average time prisoners had really done, in the past. In many cases, though not all, prison sentences dropped to a quarter of their former length, which was a bit of a shock to a lot of people, especially the families of victims. There are also a lot more community service sentences going around.

However, if you got a sentence, you could expect to serve all of it. No ifs, no buts. You could still get early release for good behaviour, but it is something like no more than about 10% of your sentence, knocked off the end.

If jail makes you suicidal, you get sent to prison hospital and get pysch treatment. You serve all your time there if you keep presenting symptoms.

The judges still lock you up and throw away the key for particualy premeditated, greedy, selfish or heinous crimes against people. So there are still plenty of career criminals, murderers, rapists and drug lords with effective life sentences. There are just less criminals with effective life sentences than there used to be.

Edited, Jun 7th 2007 11:12pm by Aripyanfar
#37 Jun 08 2007 at 5:53 AM Rating: Default
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xtremereign wrote:
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I dunno... I have a feeling that if I was caught driving on a suspended license, warned, signed a statement that I was warned for it then caught again driving on the same suspended license, I wouldn't be released with a hug.

You're not very familiar with the probation and parole system, are you?


I am, and she got off because of who she was. A normal person, white or black, would have served the 23 day sentence if they were lucky. More likely though, is that they would have served the full 45 day sentence as orders by the judge.

Edited, Jun 7th 2007 3:40pm by xtremereign

Bzzzzzzzzzzzt! Wrong answer. I've a number of friends from the wrong side of the tracks, all of which are more or less always in trouble with the law. It's not uncommon for the majority of the sentence to be suspended, regardless of the fact that the jail time is "mandatory". Go sit in a court room some time.


Sorry, I'm from the east coast so I suppose I am not familiar with that sort of thing. Getting out early sure, I got out in six months on what was originally a year, but I also had "time served" (then served two years probabtion).

This is a bit much though. I mean keep in mind the sentence was already cut in half, then they cut it in 8th's and gave her one of them. I didn't have an issue with the sentence being cut down, because it seemed like something that was pretty normal. She'd never served time before, wasn't a violent offender, so sure. This though, three days? Come on.

Oh, and I sat in a court room 24 times growing up. Thanks for the advice though.


Edited, Jun 8th 2007 9:56am by xtremereign
#38 Jun 08 2007 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
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I seriously doubt the expense of keeping her housed in jail was the issue.

Mmmm. Yummy, yummy publicity!
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I am, and she got off because of who she was. A normal person, white or black, would have served the 23 day sentence if they were lucky. More likely though, is that they would have served the full 45 day sentence as orders by the judge.


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Ok ok.

Served the full sentence! Good one.

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#41 Jun 08 2007 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
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#43 Jun 08 2007 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
So she has to stay in jail for 45 days or what?
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She was taken from court screaming.

"It's not right!" shouted the weeping Hilton. "Mom!" she called out to her mother in the audience.
"Sure I said I'd serve out my sentence and prove what a fine person I am but that was back when my people promised me I'd be out in 72 hours!" Smiley: cry
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#45 Jun 08 2007 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
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So she has to stay in jail for 45 days or what?


That's what the judge ordered.
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So she is essentially being punished for being famous. The court will make sure that the jail keeps her there for the full sentence in this case because otherwise they have to explain why people only serve a few days out of a 23 day sentence.

Sadly, it'll work cause most people are more focused on punishing Ms Hilton for being a rich blond bimbo then noticing how screwed up the jail system is. Gotta love it! :)
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and there's me naively thinking she drove a car while Shit-faced and should be slammed up like any other ****.

I don't care if she's an actress an heiress or brainless. Do the crime, serve the {something that rhymes with crime}
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#49 Jun 08 2007 at 1:40 PM Rating: Default
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So she is essentially being punished for being famous. The court will make sure that the jail keeps her there for the full sentence in this case because otherwise they have to explain why people only serve a few days out of a 23 day sentence.

Sadly, it'll work cause most people are more focused on punishing Ms Hilton for being a rich blond bimbo then noticing how screwed up the jail system is. Gotta love it! :)


Uhh...I think most people know about early release. If they are unintelligent and criminal, they know about it from experience (if they didn't cause problems in the system).

If they are highly intelligent, you could assume they pay attention to things and read forums like the Asylum, or WOW General, and are therefore enlightened.

If they are somewhere in the middle, they learn it from Law and Order.

Seriously, everyone knows about this crap. No one is afraid to explain anything. If Paris had been cooperative, even attempted to fake understanding the seriousness of her situation, this probably would never have blown up the way it did. Basically, she spit in the eye of the D.A. and the judge, and expected nothing to come of it.

At least she got to eat some of those delicious gourmet cupcakes delivered to her home the day of her three (or so) day release before being locked back up. Those must have been yummmmmmmmmy!





Edited, Jun 8th 2007 5:46pm by xtremereign
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If they are somewhere in the middle, they learn it from Law and Order.
Actually, everything I know about the law, I learned from Night Court.
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#51 Jun 08 2007 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
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xtremereign wrote:
If they are somewhere in the middle, they learn it from Law and Order.
Actually, everything I know about the law, I learned from Night Court.


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