One of the Major Tv channels in the UK ran a "documentry" today on the events surrounding Diana, Princess of Wales, it has stirred up a bit of a hornets nest.
The main bone of contention was the use of Photo's taken of the inside of the car minutes after the crash.
While the images where deliberately poor quality and not in anyway invasive as such, they drew a pretty strong resonce from the Royal household leading to and unpresedented public appeal for the show not to air by the Princes.
The Tv channel ran the show anyway stating the it was "In the public interest" a common excuse that the gutter press use as an excuse to drag peoples lives through the mud.
Personally i couldn't stand the woman but i fail to see how showing pictures of a person as the where losing the fight for life could in any way be in the interest of anyone, especially 10 years AFTER they died.
I find that this is where my "Liberal" attitude finds it hard, every pore of me think that people should be protected from this sort of invasive journalism, but would it then impact on the very freedoms that being Libberal stands for?
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I had no intention of watching the documentary, but I resent the fact that Harry & Wills (nice blokes they may be) think they have the right of censorship.
Do we check if Iraqis are OK before showing blown up neighbourhoods in Baghdad or Basra? If a young buck gets wasted on the streets of Manchester, Washington DC, LA or London, it's news. The families of the victims don't have a Veto.
No clue why any fUcker would want to watch it, but no silver-spooned aristocrat tells me what I can or cannot watch.
Let the air-headed ***** rot in peace.
Do we check if Iraqis are OK before showing blown up neighbourhoods in Baghdad or Basra? If a young buck gets wasted on the streets of Manchester, Washington DC, LA or London, it's news. The families of the victims don't have a Veto.
No clue why any fUcker would want to watch it, but no silver-spooned aristocrat tells me what I can or cannot watch.
Let the air-headed ***** rot in peace.
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Baron von tarv wrote:
Personally i couldn't stand the woman but i fail to see how showing pictures of a person as the where losing the fight for life could in any way be in the interest of anyone, especially 10 years AFTER they died.
I'm too lazy to look it up, but I was under the impression that the questionable photos did not include any "dying Diana" photos or anything of that nature...simply the car after the accident and that sort of thing.
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I understand why they would be upset, and they have every right to ask that it not be shown, but the producers have every right to show it anyways. It's not really censorship unless they pull rank, is it?
Atomicflea wrote:
It's not really censorship unless they pull rank, is it?
Thankfully, Channel 4 had the balls to ignore them.
IMHO the documentary sounded like sensationalist voyeurism, but I have an 'off' switch and so chose not to watch it.
Thankfully, the choice was mine; not some overpriveliged desecendant of William the Conqueror.
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Seems fine to me, visceral images of dead people (or insides of cars moments after impact) aren't just sensationalistic, they're also sometimes cathartic or even satisfying. Mussolini hanging, Caecescu shot up, Hussein brothers...why allow the public to view these images but not of some "good" person?
Actually this reminds me of a pet peeve--there's a documentary about the "life and death" of that idiot guy in Alaska who lived with bears and thought he was some kind of bear whisperer. The docu leads up to his and his girlfriend's deaths at the hands of one of the bears (a rather important part of the story one would think). This attack was recorded on tape; the docu director said he'd listened to the tape but declined to air it on the documentary. WTF?! Very poor filmmaking. Stop coddling people and let them hear/view all pertinant information, that's what a documentary is for.
And that's sometimes what the media is for. I could care less whether the purveyor is sensationalistic, mainstream, or what. Images are truth; mute the sound if you want, look at it, let it provoke thoughts and emotions.
Actually this reminds me of a pet peeve--there's a documentary about the "life and death" of that idiot guy in Alaska who lived with bears and thought he was some kind of bear whisperer. The docu leads up to his and his girlfriend's deaths at the hands of one of the bears (a rather important part of the story one would think). This attack was recorded on tape; the docu director said he'd listened to the tape but declined to air it on the documentary. WTF?! Very poor filmmaking. Stop coddling people and let them hear/view all pertinant information, that's what a documentary is for.
And that's sometimes what the media is for. I could care less whether the purveyor is sensationalistic, mainstream, or what. Images are truth; mute the sound if you want, look at it, let it provoke thoughts and emotions.
Nobby wrote:
not some overpriveliged desecendant of William the Conqueror.
Atomicflea wrote:
Nobby wrote:
not some overpriveliged desecendant of William the Conqueror.
It's because he was French. But we are all very proud of him!
I agree with the Nobbs, this is just another stupid documentary on some famous corpse. People don't whine when we examine JFK's death (despite graphic footage), I don't see why Diana should be any different.
Seriously, most people that whined about it hadn't even seen the documentary. It was pre-emptive whining.
I would never watch this boring crap either. I am sick to death of seeing her on TV, dead or alive.
Or dying, even.
I find that this is where my "Liberal" attitude finds it hard, every pore of me think that people should be protected from this sort of invasive journalism,
People should be. Corpses should be fair game. You can't slander a dead person or invade their privacy, because their dead. Interestingly you can still sexually assault them, though. Crazy puritan derived legal system.
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Interestingly you can still sexually assault them,
I can honestly say there's been times when I've been sullen and depressed, and asked myself "God... I wish I could see some photos of Princess Di's cadaver.. That would make me feel good. That would make things right in this world."
I missed the documentary.
Meh, felt the people had a small right to show the photos, but it would be sad see your mother's dead body (again?). Before that incident however, I was under the distinct impression that Princesses were immune to car collisions.
I missed the documentary. Meh, felt the people had a small right to show the photos, but it would be sad see your mother's dead body (again?). Before that incident however, I was under the distinct impression that Princesses were immune to car collisions.
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