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#1 Jun 04 2007 at 3:21 AM Rating: Good
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CBS television, desperate for a hit to follow on from its reality shows Survivor and Amazing Race, has had the bright idea of emulating Lord of the Flies, Golding's 1954 dark masterpiece that earned him the Nobel prize for literature. The network has chosen 40 kids aged eight to 15 who will be left to their own devices for 40 days in a ghost town in New Mexico.

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The challenge that CBS will set the kids is to see whether they can be any more successful in establishing a functioning society than those original frontiersmen. They will elect four leaders to guide them and set bedtimes. They will have to cook their own meals, clean their own outhouses and run their own businesses.

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Adults are one thing, but children, who don't have fully developed abilities to rationalize yet, and are still developing their coping mechanisms and morality standards... Damn. The bastage stage-parents that signed them up to this should be beaten with a large stick. I'm sure they think allowing them to go home whenever they feel like it is enough of a safeguard, but that really depends on the child's level of autonomy.
#2 Jun 04 2007 at 4:01 AM Rating: Good
How entertaining do they think kids are? Yes they are going to try and form a "society" which could be interesting but they are kids and kids are annoying and boring.
#3 Jun 04 2007 at 4:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow, and I thought that reality TV bottomed out with that pirate show starting soon...

I am sure, if done properly, the show would be fascinating from a sociology/psychology point of view. Researchers are probably loving the fact that the entertainment industry can get away with things that they never would.

Best case scenario: A bunch of children die
#4 Jun 04 2007 at 5:09 AM Rating: Decent
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I am sure, if done properly, the show would be fascinating from a sociology/psychology point of view.

Not particularly.


Researchers are probably loving the fact that the entertainment industry can get away with things that they never would.

Bless your little heart. Things they never would, hahahaha.

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#5 Jun 04 2007 at 6:57 AM Rating: Good
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Um, remembering the book, a number of those kids, left alone to fend for them selves, killed each other. Is this what they want to boost ratings?
#6 Jun 04 2007 at 7:32 AM Rating: Decent
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I have a feeling it could end up like that Molestation episode of South Park.
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#7 Jun 04 2007 at 8:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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I was hoping for a repeat of the Stanford Prison Experiments.

Shucks.
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#8 Jun 04 2007 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
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The bastage stage-parents that signed them up to this should be beaten with a large stick.


With nails sticking out of it. I also think that the people that watch this should be beaten as well.

I think the problems will start with bullying, then move on to molestation, or beatings. This is a new low for t.v....
#9 Jun 04 2007 at 8:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Atomicflea wrote:
The bastage stage-parents that signed them up to this should be beaten with a large stick.


With nails sticking out of it. I also think that the people that watch this should be beaten as well.

I think the problems will start with bullying, then move on to molestation, or beatings. This is a new low for t.v....


I thought TV had reached its nadir back around the time Geraldo and confrontational talk shows went mainstream. Boy, was I wrong.
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#10 Jun 04 2007 at 8:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow...I had forgotten about him after that whole beating thing. Then he popped up in Iraq, and it was the unvieling of Capone's vault again.

Can t.v. hit anymore lows, without death?
#11 Jun 04 2007 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Metastophicleas wrote:
Atomicflea wrote:
The bastage stage-parents that signed them up to this should be beaten with a large stick.


With nails sticking out of it. I also think that the people that watch this should be beaten as well.

I think the problems will start with bullying, then move on to molestation, or beatings. This is a new low for t.v....


I thought TV had reached its nadir back around the time Geraldo and confrontational talk shows went mainstream. Boy, was I wrong.


It's like a professional limbo competition.
#12 Jun 04 2007 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Found the line??

Modern TV especially "Reality" TV as obliterated the line and trampled anything even remotely resembling professional programme making into dust.

If it wasn't for Sport and the "series" type programming like 24, Hero and Lost i don't think i would even own a TV.

Good programmes are few and far between, and the current obsession with extreme reality TV is pretty sickening, i hear they are going to be auctioning off a Kidney in a reality show in Holland later this year.

You can't argue with rating though and i believe strongly in the "Don't like it? Don't watch it!" method of viewing.

#13 Jun 04 2007 at 9:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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i hear they are going to be auctioning off a Kidney in a reality show in Holland later this year.


That was recently debunked, although the account I read made it sound like the producers were saying, "No, no! Of course not! Don't be absurd. We were kidding!" while hiding a styrofoam dry-ice box behind their backs.
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#14 Jun 04 2007 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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That was recently debunked, although the account I read made it sound like the producers were saying, "No, no! Of course not! Don't be absurd. We were kidding!" while hiding a styrofoam dry-ice box behind their backs.
It was still on as of last friday....

* Edit since i know Sam is NEVER wrong i went and did a bit of research...

It was aired but when the "donor" was about to pick which person was to get the kidney they revealled that she was an actor and the point was to show the problem with lack of donors.

The three "Contestants" where real patients but knew the show was "Fake"

I'm not sure if this makes the show any more acceptable.

Edited, Jun 4th 2007 2:03pm by tarv
#15 Jun 04 2007 at 10:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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This is what I based my post on.

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#16 Jun 04 2007 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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See i'm not the only person who knows Sam is never wrong Smiley: wink

I really need to get off my *** and renew my premium...
#17 Jun 04 2007 at 4:24 PM Rating: Good
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See i'm not the only person who knows Sam is never wrong Smiley: wink

I really need to get off my *** and renew my premium...
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#18 Jun 04 2007 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
Wow. I got nothing. This is arguably the most insane reality show concept ever.
#19 Jun 04 2007 at 4:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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They really should have just gone the whole nine and put the kids on a island and made them fight to the death to determine the single strongest, a la Battle Royale.
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#20 Jun 04 2007 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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They really should have just gone the whole nine and put the kids on a island and made them fight to the death to determine the single strongest, a la Battle Royale.

You've seen Battle Royale? Smiley: inlove
#21 Jun 04 2007 at 4:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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The best part was at the end, when the teacher gets all shot up, then gets up and answers his cell phone. Smiley: laugh
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Battle Royale 2 was extremely disappointing imo. Smiley: disappointed
#23 Jun 04 2007 at 5:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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I wasn't even aware that they made a second one.

This disappointed me (although I never saw it, nor do I intend to). Another crappy American ripoff of a kickass foreign film that's just too violent to show in the States.
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#24 Jun 04 2007 at 5:10 PM Rating: Good
I got as far as it saying Stone Cold Steve Austin was in it before I stopped reading. Here's the link for Battle Royale 2. As you can see it didn't do nearly as well as the first.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338763/
#25 Jun 04 2007 at 5:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Like I'd want to watch a few dozen tweens and teens ***** and moan on tv for a whole hour.

Ok I admit I'll probably at least watch the pilot.
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#26 Jun 04 2007 at 6:01 PM Rating: Decent
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The Condemned is actually OK, Certainly they didn't ruin it by the addition of Steve Austin, by the look of it the director knew he had a limited cast so he consentrated on moveing the story along without huge chunks of poorly acted dialogue.

If only the pron directors would learn!!

Vinnie jones is reasonabley Good, and Steve Austin has a Classy one liner at the end that he delivers with aplomb

7/10 (much higher then the likes of Saw/Hostel would EVER EVER get.)
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