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#1 May 14 2007 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent

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As a fellow brit, what do you make of the Madeleine McCann disappearance?

For those unfamiliar with the story, 3 year-old Maddy was sleeping in the holiday apartment in Portugal with her baby brother and sister 11 days ago while her parents were dining in a nearby restaurant.

Everyone feels for the parents' distress. but the part nobody's happy to talk about is "Who the fUck leaves a 3 year-old and 2 babies in an apartment and slopes off to a restaurant?".

OK. The restaurant was only 100 yards from the apartment, and the parents say they went back every 30 minutes to check on the kids.

And like every other parent, we all make mistakes with our kids and thankfully don't pay such a high price.

But I have to say, there's no way in Bob's green earth I'd leave infants alone at night in a holiday apartment in a foreign country while I went off to enjoy the squid and wine in a restaurant. I've stayed in that resort when Dracoid and the Noblet were about 5 and 9 years old, and it would never occur to leave them alone.

These people aren't pig-Shit-thick trailer-trash - He's a Consultant Cardiologist and she's a Family Physician. How could they be so fUcking dumb Smiley: oyvey

#2 May 14 2007 at 3:40 PM Rating: Good

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I didn't hear about the part that they left the children alone while they went to dine. Wow, I don't even let the younger ones go more than 20 feet away from me. They hate it when I say "If I can't see you, that's not good."

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One of the parents killed the little girl after they found her with a wet diaper. She was neevr left alone, well, not alive, anyway.

Americans know these things.

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He's a Consultant Cardiologist and she's a Family Physician.

Not for long...

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#5 May 15 2007 at 4:06 AM Rating: Good

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Good god, that's awful. I can't imagine what the parents are going through. They must feel tremendous guilt.

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I saw an article about that, they were hoping that her right eye would help people spot her easier if she's still alive. Terribly sad, I feel nervous just leaving my daughter in the house sleeping while I go mow the lawn.

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I've not really been able to follow it to be honest, i get to see about 20 minutes news every other day, i work wierd shifts when we're at sea.

While i do feel a great deal of sympathy for the parents, i cannot grasp why they would leave three children alone in a strange town while they went to go and have a dinner...

I know that there is no way my wife would allow it even if i completely lost the plot and surgested it (which i wouldn't).

I hear they are about to arrest a british guy in connection with the case who lived closer to the appartment than the resteraunt is , so i feel there will not be a happy ending.

A sad reflection on the way the world is i suppose.

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Sommelier wrote:

These people aren't pig-Shit-thick trailer-trash - He's a Consultant Cardiologist and she's a Family Physician. How could they be so fUcking dumb Smiley: oyvey

Au contraire. I think it's the upper-class sense of entitlement that gave them a false sense of security. I gre up in Peru during the heyday of the Shining Path, and we had all sorts of locks on the doors and weren't allowed out after dark. I was always taught to carry my bags in front of me, keep my eyes darting, etc. In short, I was raised to think that people would do me harm or steal from me if they could, and it's kept me alert and doubtful where otherwise I would be secure.
When I moved to IL, I was scandalized to find that Joph's entire family didn't lock their doors. It's become so second-nature to me that it seems ludicrous not to do it, but maybe these folk never had to deal with not being in a community that was perfectly safe, and they felt like it was okay to step outside while the children slept. It's impossibly naive, but I can't fault them for her disappearance.

Hell-the guy didn't know that there wasn't a nanny there. They could have been there with the kids and gotten their throats slit for it.

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but maybe these folk never had to deal with not being in a community that was perfectly safe, and they felt like it was okay to step outside while the children slept.

50 years ago maybe, but i don't think that this mindset exsists in Britain today.

Crime while not rife is certainly widespread enough that our media has put the fear of abduction/robbery into our minds enough that i doubt that there is anywhere in the country where locking the doors when you leave the house is not second nature to everyone.

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It's impossibly naive, but I can't fault them for her disappearance.

I can, the care of your children is YOUR responcibility, no-one elses. Care includes correct supervision and not leaving three children on thier own while you go eat elsewhere.

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[the care of your children is YOUR responcibility, no-one elses. Care includes correct supervision and not leaving three children on thier own while you go eat elsewhere.

/nods

Like I've said, it's a bummer for them, and I understand their pain, but they have to share the guilt of being too mean to pay a sitter or (as Fleas said) pure arrogance from people who feel 'above' the slings and arrows. (You know my views on the arrogance of medics).

I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, but they fUcked up and have to live with it.

If I thought a few pounds would help bring the child back, I'd donate, but for the public to be donating thousands of pounds to a fund to pay the parents' hotel bill so they can stay out there? WTF? They earn about $500,000 a year between them!

Insane.

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tarv wrote:

I can, the care of your children is YOUR responcibility, no-one elses. Care includes correct supervision and not leaving three children on thier own while you go eat elsewhere.

/nod

I can see leaving a couple of seven year olds alone in that situation, but not a three year old and two more even younger than that. No f*cking way.

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I'm really surprised at the rancor directed at the parents. Granted, it wasn't the smartest decision but the kidnapper's decision was made from a harmful mindset, and the responsibility lies with him. I'm sure at one time or another, one of your kids has fallen off the couch but this is not the case here. Someone purposefully went out of their way to harm this child, and you don't know that the parents' presence would have stopped them.

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Alert!

Affluent, blonde, white girl disappears!

Maudlin, ethnocentric, unicorn-loving churchies unite!

#14 May 20 2007 at 10:41 AM Rating: Decent

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This is now getting fUcking ridiculous! Members of parliament wearing yellow ribbons and the British tabloid press continuing to slag off the Portuguese Cops for not leaking speculative leads. . . Smiley: mad

To crown it all, every time the cops get a fresh lead and turn up to investigate a site, it's already crawling with gutter journalists fUcking up evidence at potential crime scenes and offering suspects or potential witnesses exclusive story contracts.

What a disgrace

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Maybe I'm the only one who sees the irony that the parents had an audience with The Pope today.

If you're looking for the sort of men who take an unnatural interest in 3 year olds, the Vatican's a pretty good place to start. Smiley: dubious

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Monsieur Sommelier wrote:

Maybe I'm the only one who sees the irony that the parents had an audience with The Pope today.

If you're looking for the sort of men who take an unnatural interest in 3 year olds, the Vatican's a pretty good place to start. Smiley: dubious

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