Anyway, in the latest Whitehouse press breifing. this exchange ensued....
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MR. SNOW: Helen, the American people also do not want the Middle East in flames. They do not want millions of people dying. They do not want the economic dislocation, the geopolitical danger that would be ignited should, in fact, Zawahiri and others get their way. Americans still remember September 11th; they remember the fear it inspired --
Q But the Iraqis had nothing to do with it.
MR. SNOW: I understand that. But on the other hand, al Qaeda now has decided to make Iraq the central front. And it's pretty clear --
Q We decided that.
MR. SNOW: No, I don't think so. But --
Q Historically.
MR. SNOW: We've gone through this many times.
Q But the Iraqis had nothing to do with it.
MR. SNOW: I understand that. But on the other hand, al Qaeda now has decided to make Iraq the central front. And it's pretty clear --
Q We decided that.
MR. SNOW: No, I don't think so. But --
Q Historically.
MR. SNOW: We've gone through this many times.
My Bold.
WTF?
the Bullshat coming out of these guys is relentless.
So. To summarise :-
Plan.
a. Invade Iraq to remove WMD threat. Oops! None there. But we'll stay and fix up some of the stuff we broke.
b. We'll disband the army and civil service, create hundreds o' thousands of unemployed peole in a country awash with guns and other weaponry (that we cant be ***** to guard)
c. We can't leave now 'cos Al Qeada has entered the country and is fomenting the violence. "its the central front on terror etc."
d. Well, as we're here, we'll kill the ex-President and his mates and some of his family. Success! But we can't leave 'cos theres chaos in the streets.
e. Ummm...well we'd like to leave, really we would. But we can't you see, because we havnt finished building our Embassy yet. Or our dozen or so 'enduring bases'. and besides, its the Central front of the ****....
f. Ah, Dammit! we were just about to leave, elections are done all is well, turning point blah blah, milestone reached blah....chaos in streets and sectarian violence 100's dying everyday...better stay and 'keep order', you know.....
g. We'll have a final
h. The 'surge', destined for total failure is continuing to segregate people who not only used to live next door to each other, but used to marry each other too. Iraqis want the US out. The US people want the US out. But, "well we cant leave yet, the chaos and violence would be terrible".
i. ummm....well we'd like to leave, but the only reason we're still here is because, err...Al qeada has decided to make it the central front, and if we leave then they will use the opportunity to
Tony Snow again,
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What Zawahiri was recommending, for instance, at one point, he started laying out what his ambitions were. And his ambition was, what the President has talked about for some time now, which is a new caliphate, and a caliphate that would extend across much of the world, and it was going to be trying to place much of the world under the kind of oppression -- under the religious oppression that most Americans -- it's not even religious; it is the terrorist oppression that tends to misidentify itself as a religious movement, and to do it in such a way as to terrorize people into surrendering their freedoms.
Wheres all this leading?
Does anyone still believe that "If the United States leaves Iraq things will really get bad." is a valid argument for the US to still be there?
The Bush administration loves the people of Iraq. How much more destruction, killing and torturing do you need to be convinced of that? We can't leave because of the violence. We can't leave until we have assured that peace returns to our dear comrades in Iraq. TRUE/FALSE
It seems to me that the Whitehouse is in the process of moving the goalposts again.
When the surge fails, what is going to be the next reason for not leaving?
It would appear that the next excuse is going to be "we'd like to leave, Really, we would, but we cant because Al qeada will rule the world from their Iraqi based caliphate."
Its gone from a coupla dozen men on planes, to 'mushroom clouds', to a 'global caliphate that wants to rule the world'.
And you rekkon I need a tinfoil hat?
Just goes to show, that if the Lies ar big enough, and repeated often enough, then (enough of) the people will fall for it every time.