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#1 May 02 2007 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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Furriners need a Visa to enter the USA of Americaland.

Unless, of course, they're from a 'friendly' country like the UK, in which case we have a 'Visa Waiver' allowing us to fill in a form and be waved on through (OK, since 9/11 I have to have a fingerprint scan and photo on entry).

Now, understandably, the US Homeland Security guys are questioning this, since it's now clear that terrorists can easily be born-and-raised Brits, Germans etc.
We had English boys blowing up London on 7/7/5 and just convicted 5 more of trying the same thing on 21/7/5. Madrid had the same back in March a year or 2 before. So we accept that not all of what Prez Bush appears to call 'tourists' are from "Brownskinistan".


So there are options under discussion.

1 - Pfft. Fingers crossed. We'll be fine.
2 - Scrap the Visa Waiver scheme
3 - Introduce 'profiling' and make brown/muslim/odd people apply for visas

Now I know the NYT has suggested, that Washington are proposing option 3, but in fairness, a Whitehouse spokesman told the BBC that this is a BullShit story.

Anyhoo

Should the Visa Waiver Scheme continue for 'Friendly States'?
Yes.:5 (17.9%)
No. Scrap it now:10 (35.7%)
Lock down the borders! Everyone in the Tourist industry is ghey anyway!:4 (14.3%)
Make it selective based on the ethnic/religious/political profile of the visitor:3 (10.7%)
I don't give an Otter's cervix!:6 (21.4%)
Total:28


Edited, May 2nd 2007 7:04pm by Nobby
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#2 May 02 2007 at 2:55 PM Rating: Good
Hell no, that would mean I'd need a visa to get cheap booze. Right now all I need is a driver's license.
#3 May 02 2007 at 3:27 PM Rating: Good
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As of January I have to have a passport to visit Cancun in November (3 bobdamn months to renew my passport is stupid) so your furrin *** can get a damn Visa.
#4 May 02 2007 at 3:58 PM Rating: Good
Voted keep it, but I'm sure that there can be modifications to be made to make it better.

I went ahead and read through the Wiki article, and then looked at a couple .gov sites about it since Wikipedia isn't always trustworthy.

Honestly, it just seems to be a matter of convinence for the people traveling, and there are still measures of security in place. Travelers from program countries are still required to have a valid Passport, must not have any previous convictions, be a citizen of the nation that they are coming from, have biometrics added, etc.

Edited, May 2nd 2007 7:59pm by Nightsintdreams
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#5 May 02 2007 at 4:18 PM Rating: Good
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Nightsintdreams, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
Travelers from program countries are still required to have a valid Passport, must not have any previous convictions, be a citizen of the nation that they are coming from, have biometrics added, etc.
Ahem.

All of the convicted London Bombers would be allowed into USA under that reasoning.

If MI5 (Our James Bod chaps) hadn't swtiched the terrorists' fertiliser with cat litter (nice move), we'd have had thousands dead on 21/07/05.

I say we all have to apply for visas
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#6 May 02 2007 at 4:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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You need to provide valid ID to board an aircraft. You also need to provide ID at customs. Of course ID can be faked, but so can Visas. More paperwork doesn't = security
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#7 May 02 2007 at 6:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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I am not applying for more ****, the damn passport was enough of a hassle!
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#8 May 03 2007 at 2:30 AM Rating: Decent
Nobby wrote:
If MI5 (Our James Bod chaps) hadn't swtiched the terrorists' fertiliser with cat litter (nice move), we'd have had thousands dead on 21/07/05.


From what I read, it's the guy at the store that called the cops, since he found it suspiscious that a Muslim guy would buy tens of kilos of fertilisers without any gardening knowledge. So, well done to him!

And, surely, there is a lesson for all of us here.

Watch Gardening World.

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#9 May 03 2007 at 3:06 AM Rating: Good
I say keep it as I don't wanna have to apply for a visa yet I'm lazy... I'll just get a damn green card if/when me and the gf get married.
#10 May 03 2007 at 3:07 AM Rating: Default
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I dont give an otters cervix.

I did my year in the states in the 90's when it was still a relatively normal country.

And I ain't comin back til you get back to being normal and playin nice again. Mmmkay?
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#11 May 03 2007 at 3:17 AM Rating: Good
I'd say the weirdest thing was adding the tax on at the end of a sale, I mean what the bloody hell? If a price tag says $10 I wanna pay $10 not $10.64280967589 or whatever it was...


Oh and the guy at the cinema not understanding the words "How much is the Doctor Pepper" I mean christ it's not like I asked him "How much is the Physicians Spice" I just wanted a damn drink.

Oh Oh and the 21 being the drinking age thing is pretty stupid aswell....
#12 May 03 2007 at 3:31 AM Rating: Decent
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One of the weirdest things I came accross was 'grits'. Food of the debil. I thought they were taking the ****.

That and the tv. And the beer. Its ****. And sittin next to a stranger on a train, and then being subjected to a monologue about their day. And the 'sport'.

And lets not forget the Texas Highway patrol.

I got pulled over on the side of the hi-way 3 times in 20 miles by the same guys, 'cos they were convinced I was a smug druggler importin' bolivian marching powder into the US from Honduras. After being turned over 3 times, they were still wishing us to 'have a nice day'.

I swear they both had mirrors on the inside of their sunglasses. That or their hats were too tight....
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#13 May 03 2007 at 3:50 AM Rating: Good
NYC Was pretty weird. I had some lady ask me if she could have 25 cents. She just looked like some lady who might have needed change for a phone or a bus or something, so I gave her the change, and she gave me this little scrap of paper telling me it was her story of how she took down some government officials from power or something. A truly strange experience.


Then when I was deciding a watch to buy from one of the $5 'designer' watch stands that are on the corner of every street almost, they were in a neat little box and half of them had a nice little plaque type price saying $250. I said to the guy "Are these really all $5?"

To which he replied, and I kid you not, "***** please, would I lie to you?"

I almost burst out laughing and thought to myself. After saying that line to me, I can't not buy a watch.

Edited, May 3rd 2007 7:51am by remorajunbao
#14 May 03 2007 at 5:01 AM Rating: Decent
Well apart from smoking a joint with the most famous French hip-hop band in a NY recording studio, my second coolest experience in the US was getting stopped near Houston for drinking beer on the street and being told it was a "federal offense".

It was only cool because the police guy looked like he was straight out of Cops, except in Texas. Big sunglasses, silly hat, a moustache, a strong Texan accent, it was great. Just like being in a movie, except he was quite nice, albeit in a slightly robotic kind of way.

Oh, and I did a one-on-one with Dee Brown when I was 15. Yes, THE Dee Brown. Well, I didn't score a basket, but I slapped his wrist a couple of times.

I haven't washed since.

Though it has nothing to do with Dee, it's just me being a good Frenchman.

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#15 May 03 2007 at 5:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yep. Crazy, paranoid, but friendly. Sounds like us, all right.
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#16 May 03 2007 at 5:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Elderon wrote:
Hell no, that would mean I'd need a visa to get cheap booze. Right now all I need is a driver's license.


That's all you still need until next year. After that you'll need a passport. Canadians don't fall under the visa waiver program, we have something else. Something better. The states knows that the harder it is for us to get across the border, the less we'll buy their booze. Smiley: smile
#17 May 03 2007 at 3:16 PM Rating: Good
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Monsieur RedPhoenixxx wrote:
Oh, and I did a one-on-one with Dee Brown when I was 15. Yes, THE Dee Brown. Well, I didn't score a basket, but I slapped his wrist a couple of times.[/sm]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee_Brown_%28novelist%29

He was pretty spry for an old guy, eh?


#18 May 04 2007 at 1:10 AM Rating: Decent
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee_Brown_%28novelist%29

He was pretty spry for an old guy, eh?


Indeed! And to think he won the All-Star Slam Dunk contest at the grand age of 83... Very impressive.

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