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#1 May 02 2007 at 12:21 PM Rating: Good
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For all of you dyed-in-the-wool gamers who believe video games have no impact on violence in society, here's an article that disputes your opinion.

Slate magazine

They make the claim that there is a direct corrolation between watching/participating in "make believe" acts of mayhem on a computer or television and behaving badly in sociual settings.

See? EQ and killing all the orc_pawns got all those Virginnie Techies dead! Blame Sony!

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#2 May 02 2007 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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They're right. If we got rid of every reference to violence ever in our entire society we'd have fewer violent acts.

Anyways I'm off to go shoot some people and run over some babies on my PS2. ttyl.
#3 May 02 2007 at 12:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Each of these approaches has its flaws. The first kind of correlational study can never prove that video-game playing causes physical aggression. Maybe aggressive people are simply more apt to play violent games in the first place.


Ding ding ding ding!

What so many people are failing to take into account is that video games are ubiquitous, now. If you look for evidence that a young killer/carjacker/whatever has played a video game at some point in his life, you're going to find it.

Twenty years ago **** was the scapegoat. /shrug
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#4 May 02 2007 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
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The longitudinal work, like this year's elementary-school study, is a useful middle ground: It shows that across the board, playing more-violent video games predicts higher levels of verbal and physical aggression later on. It doesn't matter why the kids started playing violent games or whether they were already more aggressive than their peers; the point is that a year of game-playing likely contributes to making them more aggressive than they were when they started. If we had only one of the three kinds of studies, the findings wouldn't mean much. But taken together, the body of research suggests a real connection.
It's probably not the healthiest outlet for aggression if the child already exhibits some sort of overly aggressive traits, but I don't know that it's as simple as saying it can cause the behavior. Multiple factors can and do apply.

What worries me more than anything is that the games aren't really age-specific. Joph will only buy Jr. "kid" games, and he has a game where this guy flies out of his car during daredevil-type jumps, and the object of the game for him has become less about making the jumps and more about finding new ways to kill this guy. While I understand it's in good fun, I made sure to tell him that it was hard for me to watch, because even though "it's just a game", I see people with real-life injuries everyday. It was troubling to see such a sweet boy cackling at this broken body, and I wanted to make sure to affirm that these things *do* happen to folks, and aren't funny.

Then again, I don't even like scary or violent movies. I'm a peace-freak.

#5 May 02 2007 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
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They make the claim that there is a direct corrolation between watching/participating in "make believe" acts of mayhem on a computer or television and behaving badly in sociual settings.


Its true!

Its well known that there wasn't any violence in the world before the invention of the computer game.

you reckon GWB plays a lot of computer games then?

All the signs are there. Sorry grasp on reality, predilection for violence, doesn't mind the slaughter as long as its someone elses etc.....
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#6 May 02 2007 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
Twenty years ago, people were decrying pornography as the 'cause' of various things such as murder or rape.

Nowadays, the scapegoat of choice is video games (and terrorists).

To me at least, it seems like that rather than violent video games being the cause of shootings or rapists, it is something that can be seen as a symptom of people who were predisposed towards violence to begin with.

I myself have been playing games such as Doom and Mortal Kombat since I was seven or eight, and I have always had a clear line drawn in my mind that while it was fun, it wasn't real. It didn't desensitized me to violence (I can't stomach watching videos of people getting injured) either.

Edited, May 2nd 2007 5:27pm by Nightsintdreams
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#7 May 02 2007 at 1:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yes, I said that. Well, except for the scintillating information about your third-grade hobbies.

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#8 May 02 2007 at 1:39 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, I said that. Well, except for the scintillating information about your third-grade hobbies.



Yeah, saw that after I read the article/OP and replied. Smiley: banghead

Edited, May 2nd 2007 5:42pm by Nightsintdreams
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#9 May 02 2007 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Ah Slate magazine, with great articles like "Why the French hate the Turks so much" and "Does chess make kids smart or just annoying?." As previously stated I believe that while video games don't cause violent behavior it is possible that children/adults who have violent habits may be more attracted to violent video games.
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Anyways I'm off to go shoot some people and run over some babies on my then play my PS2. ttyl
#10 May 02 2007 at 6:32 PM Rating: Good
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Each of these approaches has its flaws. The first kind of correlational study can never prove that video-game playing causes physical aggression. Maybe aggressive people are simply more apt to play violent games in the first place.


Ding ding ding ding!

What so many people are failing to take into account is that video games are ubiquitous, now. If you look for evidence that a young killer/carjacker/whatever has played a video game at some point in his life, you're going to find it.

Twenty years ago **** was the scapegoat. /shrug


And 20 years before that it was that evil Rock & Roll music!

Actually, there's always someone who will try to blame their poor parenting/chemical imbalance/posession by evil wombat demons/etc on something/someone else. No big suprise there.

Also, Sam gets me hard when she uses words like ubiquitous.
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#11 May 02 2007 at 8:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Hell, 20 years ago you were a Satan worshipper if you played Dungeons & Dragons.
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#12 May 03 2007 at 2:20 AM Rating: Decent
I still blame ****.

All these fornications, penetrations, facial ejaculations, DVDAs, blow-jobs, three-somes, skull fUcks, it just makes you want to kill people.

Or have a ****.

Either way, it's just as bad as Dungeons and Dragons.



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#13 May 03 2007 at 5:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hell, 20 years ago you were a Satan worshipper if you played Dungeons & Dragons.


Even sooner then that, there was a special news broadcast on spanish television that "Pokemon" translates to "Pocket Monsters", which makes it satanic.
#14 May 03 2007 at 9:11 AM Rating: Default
its not the games, its us. humans have always been facinated with violance. violance is the path to power. intimidation. fear.

video games and tv are just a reflection of our facination.

but just like ****, the more you get, the more you want = the more you try to get. like feeding an addiction. eventually, you want MORE. and watching it just doesnt do it for you anymore.

liberals suggest hidding it from us, so mabe we wont focus on it and forget about it. doesnt work. but the problem is not the games or tv, its us. always has been, probably always will be.

videogames = us. volance in video games is a reflection of us.

why do you think sims online died so quick? no violance = no interest for us. thats why. i actually think online violance is a healthy outlet for us. a place where we can find what we want without actually hurting anything but someones feelings.

same with online ****. better at home on the computer than cruising the streets looking for action. you stop the violance on tv and videogames, we will just look for it somewhere else..........

the human condition. born of evil. Gods message was to try adn get us to rise above......OURSELVES. 2000 years ago he nailed the problem. US. why he didnt just destroy us is beyond me. but then again, i guess he did try, mabe thats what the whole 40 days thing was all about.

it is not the video games influencing US, it is US influencing the video games.
#15 May 03 2007 at 9:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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#16 May 03 2007 at 10:17 AM Rating: Good
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2000 years ago he nailed the problem.


Intentional or not, you're officially going to hell. Smiley: lol
#17 May 03 2007 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
Intentional or not, you're officially going to hell.
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probably. 3/4s of us will. even some of us who think we are good christians,muslims,whatever.....

im sure most everyone on this board will be there too. soo, someone bring a computer when you die so we can keep posting from the other side.....
#18 May 03 2007 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
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shadowrelm wrote:
Intentional or not, you're officially going to hell.
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probably. 3/4s of us will. even some of us who think we are good christians,muslims,whatever.....

im sure most everyone on this board will be there too. soo, someone bring a computer when you die so we can keep posting from the other side.....


Smiley: lol

Hiho, hiho...it's off to hell we go.
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#19 May 03 2007 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
Thanks,

Now I'm singing that loudly in my office.

Co-workers are looking at me like I'm about to shoot up the place or something.
#20 May 03 2007 at 4:10 PM Rating: Decent
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why do you think sims online died so quick? no violance = no interest for us.


I don't know about you, but I found many fun ways to kill people in sims games. (Was the online version that much different from the offline versions?)

On topic, I personally believe in the theory that people who are naturally violent tend to play violent video games. If video games are going to actually have an effect it's going to be when kids are young. It's at this time when they usually set the first standards about how they should act and look at the world. In this case it's bad parenting that's to blame and not video games.

I do however find that I got very violent when playing tekken games and getting my *** kicked (Broke a couple controllers okgo.); this type of game isn't even really violent though. I'll blame this on the fact that I had a tiny 'anger' problem. :p I look back at the years when I could be calm and then I would just snap from trying to hold all the agression back for a couple days/weeks at a time and laugh.
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#21 May 04 2007 at 1:07 AM Rating: Decent
shadowrelm wrote:
liberals suggest hidding it from us, so mabe we wont focus on it and forget about it.


What?! I thought liberals were peddling violence and sex and **** and gays and the demise of our moral standards and the break-down of the family and TDS.

Make your mind up...
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#22 May 04 2007 at 1:08 AM Rating: Decent
shadowrelm wrote:
but just like ****, the more you get, the more you want = the more you try to get. like feeding an addiction. eventually, you want MORE. and watching it just doesnt do it for you anymore.


In fairness to ****, I'm usually done after 10-15 minutes... Anything more would be overkill after a certain point.


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#23 May 04 2007 at 2:24 AM Rating: Good
Yea I only ever make it through the first scene of a movie anyways.....
#24 May 04 2007 at 4:03 AM Rating: Good
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shadowrelm wrote:
Intentional or not, you're officially going to hell.
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probably. 3/4s of us will. even some of us who think we are good christians,muslims,whatever.....

im sure most everyone on this board will be there too. soo, someone bring a computer when you die so we can keep posting from the other side.....


Smiley: lol

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#25 May 04 2007 at 7:58 AM Rating: Decent
Heck even in the stroller I was watching my parents play the original Mario for the NES. I've been playing video games all my life, and i'm proud to say I get good grades, and have never assaulted anyone in a violent fashion (Even when assaulted by others ; ;).

Maybe it's just because i'm a geek/nerd, but I AM a 6"4' one >_>
#26 May 04 2007 at 8:07 AM Rating: Good
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Heck even in the stroller I was watching my parents play the original Mario for the NES.


On the other hand, playing too much Mario Brothers as a boy has lead me into a heathen's life of eating mushrooms every chance I get and kicking turtles.
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