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Wow, he states that particular class is the only one required of him to pass and not only does he denigrate the teacher and write a ***** grade D worthy "essay", he uses just about the only imagery, short of turning the essay into a death list, possibly to get him in trouble with someone other than his teacher. What a 'tard.
I'm not going to praise his writing, but I get the idea it was a stream-of-consciousness type assignment.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Student_Essay_Arrest.html wrote:
Students were told to "write whatever comes to your mind. Do not judge or censor what you are writing," according to a copy of the assignment.
So it's not like he took it home and spent time carefully crafting it.
My dads nickname was Jack, & his drinking/work/traveling buddy used to get a big kick out of yelling " Hi Jack !!" to him in airports.....simpler times.....
trickybeck wrote:
I'm not going to praise his writing, but I get the idea it was a stream-of-consciousness type assignment.
Like I said. Standards have dropped.
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So it's not like he took it home and spent time carefully crafting it.
Like I said. Standards have dropped.
Stream of Consiousness assignments are not supposed to be an excuse for crappy writing and lack of coherent thought. They're supposed to be a test of your ability to think and write "on the fly". You should be able to just come up with an idea and start writing and end up with an essay that actually says something reasonable about whatever it is you decided to write about. It's not supposed to be a random jumble of thoughts poorly connected together.
If that's the "stream of consciousness" of a straight A student in our education system today, I fear for our future. I really do.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Like I said. Standards have dropped.
Stream of Consiousness assignments are not supposed to be an excuse for crappy writing and lack of coherent thought. They're supposed to be a test of your ability to think and write "on the fly". You should be able to just come up with an idea and start writing and end up with an essay that actually says something reasonable about whatever it is you decided to write about. It's not supposed to be a random jumble of thoughts poorly connected together.
Quoth wikipedia:
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Stream-of-consciousness writing is usually regarded as a special form of interior monologue and is characterized by associative (and at times dissociative) leaps in syntax and punctuation that can make the prose difficult to follow, tracing a character's fragmentary thoughts and sensory feelings.
Yeah, you clearly know what you're talking about.
Edited, Apr 27th 2007 9:04pm by DodoBird
gbaji wrote:
Like I said. Standards have dropped.
Stream of Consiousness assignments are not supposed to be an excuse for crappy writing and lack of coherent thought. They're supposed to be a test of your ability to think and write "on the fly". You should be able to just come up with an idea and start writing and end up with an essay that actually says something reasonable about whatever it is you decided to write about. It's not supposed to be a random jumble of thoughts poorly connected together.
If that's the "stream of consciousness" of a straight A student in our education system today, I fear for our future. I really do.
Stream of Consiousness assignments are not supposed to be an excuse for crappy writing and lack of coherent thought. They're supposed to be a test of your ability to think and write "on the fly". You should be able to just come up with an idea and start writing and end up with an essay that actually says something reasonable about whatever it is you decided to write about. It's not supposed to be a random jumble of thoughts poorly connected together.
If that's the "stream of consciousness" of a straight A student in our education system today, I fear for our future. I really do.
Actually, that's pretty much exactly what a "stream of consciousness" assignment is. How many creative writing courses have you taken?
Now, I'm not saying that standards *haven't* dropped in today's visual-medium-based society, so that movies and videogames are in the forefront of every young person's mind.
Edited, Apr 27th 2007 9:29pm by Debalic
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Debalic wrote:
Actually, that's pretty much exactly what a "stream of consciousness" assignment is. How many creative writing courses have you taken?
I've taken several in fact. The point is that "good" stream of consciousness writing allows the writer to pass from one stream to another without losing the audience and in a way that "flows". There should also be some underlying point or message in the writing. Random words and thoughts for the sake of random words and thoughts is *not* stream of consciousness. It's random words and thoughts.
It's still a technique for communicating (even the most obtuse poetry is "bad" if no one gets anything out of it). You should never get so caught up in the technique itself that you forget that there's still supposed to be a "point" to the words. The reader is supposed to get something out of reading it other then "gee, this guy was all over the place and is a nutball".
His writing was a poor example of the technique at best.
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Now, I'm not saying that standards *haven't* dropped in today's visual-medium-based society, so that movies and videogames are in the forefront of every young person's mind.
Yeah. I chaulk that up to modern culture I suppose. When I was a kid we mostly read stuff and formed our views of the world based on what we read. Music and TV existed but was entertainment. Today's kids seem to be forming their basic ideas of the world around them on what they see an hear on the TV, radio, and internet.
I'm not so much surprised at the quality of the essay, but that this was from someone described as a "straight A student". I wasn't expecting classical themes and deep thoughts, but maybe something somewhere approaching those things?...
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
It's still a technique for communicating (even the most obtuse poetry is "bad" if no one gets anything out of it). You should never get so caught up in the technique itself that you forget that there's still supposed to be a "point" to the words. The reader is supposed to get something out of reading it other then "gee, this guy was all over the place and is a nutball".
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Pudge, hook, rot, dismember "Fresh Meat."
Anyone who makes an esoteric reference to a mediocre custom warcraft III map in a school essay is a little slow.
Honestly, after reading the essay I was surprised that the school could overreact this much. The essay was ill conceived, uncensored and mildly offensive, it really didn’t strike me as anything that would hint to major mental problems (looked more like the kid was bored and just wanted to **** off the teacher). I really think that people need to be way less up tight.
This whole story is made up of an odd combination of "lol" and "/cry"
Although, I wonder what individuals on this board and people in general would be saying if this kid had come in and shot up the school and this had hit the press after words?
Would people take action against the school for not responding to this? Assuming that this would indeed be the mass response I can understand the school acting to cover its ***.
Although, I wonder what individuals on this board and people in general would be saying if this kid had come in and shot up the school and this had hit the press after words?
Would people take action against the school for not responding to this? Assuming that this would indeed be the mass response I can understand the school acting to cover its ***.
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