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#1 Apr 19 2007 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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Arlen Specter, you're all right by me.
Washington Post's Paul Kane wrote:
Specter vs. Gonzales -- Round 1
Less than a minute into his questioning, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) snapped at Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in an exchange that didn't bode well for Gonzales and his much ballyhooed make-or-break testimony in defending his role in the dismissal of eight U.S. attorneys.

The unexpected attack from the committee's top Republican immediately put Gonzales on the defensive.

Specter told Gonzales his opening statement about his involvement in the controversial firings continued "this same pattern of not being candid," and that it was still unclear whether the attorney general was directly involved in the process or just delegating authority. When Specter derisively noted how much time Gonzales has spent preparing for the hearing during the past two weeks, the attorney general snapped: "I prepare for every hearing."

Sparks then flew.

Specter, who has so far resisted calling for Gonzales's resignation, apparently didn't like being interrupted, and bristled at the tone of the attorney general's voice. So the Pennsylvania Republican began mocking Gonzales's performance at a March 13 press conference in which he said he had not been involved in "discussions" nor seen any "memos" about the firing plan. Those statements have now been clearly rebutted by the thousands of pages of documents the Justice Department has released.

"Were you prepared for that press conference, were you prepared for that press conference?" Specter said. Then, as Gonzales tried to answer, Specter kept interrupting, his voice growing louder. "What I'm asking you is, were you prepared for that press conference?"

Specter cut off Gonzales before he could fully answer, moving on in his questioning with one final dismissive remark: "I don't think you're going to win a debate about your preparation."
Smiley: laughSmiley: lolSmiley: laugh Bolding mine.
Those of you eager to watch it can head to http://www.c-span.org/ . It's right front and center, under "Morning Session."

I have to take what small comforts I can, since I don't think this will come to much. Hope floats, though, and not just in that crappy movie.
#2 Apr 19 2007 at 10:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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hahaha, hooray for grumpy old men! Smiley: lol

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#3 Apr 19 2007 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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He's been progressively more and more irritated with other Republicans the last 3 years or so. I remember when he was besieged by the Christan right for stating that "Roe v Wade is inviolate" when they were nominating Roberts. Or baby Alito. One of them.

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#4 Apr 19 2007 at 11:24 AM Rating: Good
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Tee-hee. I'm such a Hill geek. I've got my C-Span all cued up for the 2:30 hearing. Smiley: grin
#5 Apr 19 2007 at 11:26 AM Rating: Default
gonzales got the job because, like every appointee to that job, the person gettig appointed is not the best man for the job, but the most likely person to not step on the presidents nads when he screrws up. someone more likely to hound the other party than his own.

doesnt matter if its a dem or repub. and gonzales is no better or now worse than any in the past.

the problem.....the scale was tipped way too far for the repubs. investigations were squashed, or stalled, or buried unless they were against the dems or simply could not be hidden or ignored.

now, the speaker is on the war path. as she should be. they are forcing the issue to push these stalled investigations, and going after gonzales, not because he did anything the others didnt, but simply becuase he was the sacrifical lamb given the responsibiity for the job.

bottom line, hell yes, the republican party fired anyone digging dirt on them and replaced them with loyalists, just like the dems will do when they get to office.

gonzales a bad guy? nope. no more than tenet was. just the sacrifical anode designated to take the heat for the partys agenda. but to hell with him. he accepted the job, and even though he wouldnt have gotten it, or kept it if he didnt to the party,s bidding, he knew damn well it was his **** he was sticking out on a limb.

by by. just to bad none of the people who actually orgistraited the firings will ever be touched. thats whatsacrifical lambs are for. same with the whole torture issue, and illegally invading and destroying a country and butchering hundreds of thousands of human beings in the process. jail the grunts.

welcome to america. land of the free........
#6 Apr 19 2007 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
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now, the speaker is on the war path. as she should be.


Wrong building.

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#7 Apr 21 2007 at 9:12 AM Rating: Default
Wrong building.
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the new democratic congress and legislature are why investigations are moving again after being stalled for the last few years.

if the repubs still held the house or congress, this gonzales issue would be a non issue. dead in its tracks. either the house wouldnt bring the issue up to congress, or congress would shelve the issue from their agenda for the forseable future.

she has been the engine that finally brought the cia leak case to a conclusion, called gonzales to the floor for his actions, and forwarded wording and support into demanding a change in stratagy in Iraq or a phased withdraw to get a budget passed to pay for it.

the dems are on a mission. and its about time.

gonzales is not even who they want in front of congress. clearly he is the scape goat set up to takek the heat, but more than gonzales, they want to know who, and how far up the decision came to make those changes.

the changes themselves are not important. teh firings are not important. the replacements are not important. and gonzales is not important, he is just the path that leads to who is important.

what you are not hearing, the reason for the outrage in washington, is not the firings and replacements. its how they were orgistraited. they passed wording into the war powers bill that gave the president the power to appoint their replacements on a temporary bases (or as long as he is on office).....WITHOUT senate conformation.

then they fired them right at the end of the senats session, and replaced them while the senate was in recess. hand picked, without any checks and ballances.

THAT is why gonzales is answering, or more to the point, dodging their questions. tey want to know who created the plan to skip the checks and ballances written into our constitution to keep any one branch from becoming more powerfull or all powerfull than the others.

at issue here is not weather gonzales fired them for political reasons. at issue is how they were replaced without any checks and ballances. without a senate conformation.

they want to know who knowingly and purposly skirted the very foundation of division of power this country was formed around.

gonzales is just the chump set up to take the heat and the fall.
#8 Apr 21 2007 at 9:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Pelosi is on the war path because she'd trying to keep her job, and keep the party in power.

This is happening because Clinton appointees were fired, plain and simple. It's all political blah blah, same as the normal daily bullShit that comes out of D.C. The president has the right to fire and appoint new judges anytime he wants.

Let's not forget that Clinton did the same thing, yet when the 'Pubbies complained, nothing was done, just because the Dems had power. So, to be honest, who really cares?
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