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#52 Apr 18 2007 at 9:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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What about the welfare babies that end up with college degrees?


What about the millions of welfare babies that turn to crime instead? Which we all know is much more common than the welfare baby that actually completes college.

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Cite? If all we're going on is ancedotal evidence of this, I'm guessing I have more than you, seeing as I've worked in education for most of my life.

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#53 Apr 18 2007 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
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What about the millions of welfare babies that turn to crime instead? Which we all know is much more common than the welfare baby that actually completes college.



Possibly if it wasn't the top 20% of the population hording all the cash it would be a little different? And it's not like a capitalist CEO never committed a crime, no that has never happened. Capitalism isn't bad, just the kind of capitalism we have.

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#54REDACTED, Posted: Apr 18 2007 at 9:33 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nexa,
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and by close-minded you mean someone that has morals and expects each individual to be responsible for their actions rather than continuing to support a lifestyle that promotes social dependence?


Yep it's the poor's fault for being poor. we are talking about welfare babies right? Do you think before you speak?
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#56REDACTED, Posted: Apr 18 2007 at 9:35 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nexa,
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#57 Apr 18 2007 at 9:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'd call it the predictable dismissive attitude of someone who recognizes that no amount of discussion is going to make any difference to a close-minded, self-righteous, half-wit.


and by close-minded you mean someone that has morals and expects each individual to be responsible for their actions rather than continuing to support a lifestyle that promotes social dependence?

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We're not a nation of individuals, as much as that ideal is pushed in this country. We are all dependant upon one another for a variety of reasons and it is our moral obligation to take care of one another.

I'm pretty sure Jesus told me that.

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#58 Apr 18 2007 at 9:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Cite? If all we're going on is ancedotal evidence of this, I'm guessing I have more than you, seeing as I've worked in education for most of my life.


LOL now I know why you're f*cked up. I don't need to cite the obvious; are you seriously claiming that more welfare babies graduate college than turn to crime? You know that's absurd.

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Actually, you do need a cite. It isn't obvious at all, to those of us who have seen the welfare-to-college thing happen.
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#59 Apr 18 2007 at 9:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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LOL now I know why you're f*cked up. I don't need to cite the obvious; are you seriously claiming that more welfare babies graduate college than turn to crime? You know that's absurd.

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Are you just pulling this out of your ***? I have no idea if it's true or absurd. You could be completely correct, but in my experience, 100% of the welfare babies I have known have gone to college, hahahaha.

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#60REDACTED, Posted: Apr 18 2007 at 9:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lefty,
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#61 Apr 18 2007 at 9:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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It is the poors fault for being your you nitwit.


English, motherfUcker. Do you speak it?
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#62REDACTED, Posted: Apr 18 2007 at 9:43 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Samy,
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It is the poors fault for being your you nitwit. Each person is responsible for their actions. What part of that don't you understand? I know you liberal whackos want to have the govn control every action from every citizen but that's not how freedom works.


Actually most people believe that a child is not responsible for his or her actions. You don't seem to be very well education on the subject of social class dynamics either.

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#64 Apr 18 2007 at 9:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Actually, you do need a cite. It isn't obvious at all, to those of us who have seen the welfare-to-college thing happen.


Which proves you have no idea what's going on in the hood.

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And this statement proves that you think the 'hood is the whole story.
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#65REDACTED, Posted: Apr 18 2007 at 9:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Lefty,
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#66 Apr 18 2007 at 9:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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Actually I agree with this. But their parents should be held responsible for having children. Joe taxpayer should not be penalized because some poor uneducated ***** spread her legs. Were it up to me I would have the state fix any b*tch that had to go on welfare because they can't support their children.


Totally. Children are entirely the responsibility of women, the whores.

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I know you liberal whackos want to have the govn control every action from every citizen but that's not how freedom works.


And then

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Were it up to me I would have the state fix any b*tch that had to go on welfare because they can't support their children.


You're and idiot.
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#68 Apr 18 2007 at 9:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Were it up to me I would have the state fix any b*tch that had to go on welfare because they can't support their children.


So much for the Bill of Rights. Not much of a conservative, are ya?
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So much for the Bill of Rights. Not much of a conservative, are ya?


Education him! At least my typo was a mistake unlike NewCorps new comedy that chooses to represent themselves with one.

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What pro-life people need to understand is that under no circumstances will this country make illegal that which 80% of the nation feels under certain circumstances is justifiable. We will do more to stop abortion by raising the minimum wage, helping to make sure that low income Americans have access to quality health care, and by providing real working sex education.

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#71REDACTED, Posted: Apr 18 2007 at 10:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Samy,
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God damn you're stupid. He was referring to the forceful sterilization of a woman. Do you read before you post?
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#73REDACTED, Posted: Apr 18 2007 at 10:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Lefty,
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God damn you're stupid. He was referring to the forceful sterilization of a woman. Do you read before you post?


Particularly when I included the quote to which I was replying.

He's just thick as mud, no blame to him.
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#75 Apr 18 2007 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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achileez wrote:
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I know this may difficult for you to understand but when a person becomes a ward of the state they are no longer free to make decisions for themselves and it's the responsibility of the govn to see that they don't hurt society.

Varus


There's certainly no Constitutional justification for this sentiment.

Again, not much of a conservative, are you?
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