Monday morning massacreFollow

Thanks, I'll pass them on to her. This is just getting worse for family, friends, and myself. Number of dead that I knew is up to three now, with at least two others sitting in the hospitals.

From here it looked like everyone in Louisiana WAS armed.

Hound dogs don't count.

It's not even that. We get the "privilege" of bearing arms for a bit in boot camp (but again, the ammo is strictly controlled). From there on out, as long as we're in the US, we follow the exact same rules as far as carrying guns as every other person here, and the penalties are a LOT harsher for breaking the rules.

Achileez, stop talking like the military hands us all M16s and vests full of ammo and lets us wander around freely. We don't get to carry guns on U.S. soil unless a: we're actively performing military duties, in uniform, blatantly obviously, and even in that case the ammo is still strictly controlled and we have to file a report for every shot we fire outside of the rifle/pistol ranges, or b: we follow the same state gun control laws that everyone else does, buy a gun from a licensed dealer, go through the same screening process and waiting period, and follow the same rules abut where we can have it and what we can do with it as everyone else.

And if we're accused of breaking the law (any law) we face much, much harsher penalties than civilians do *in addition* to the civilian penalties, and military courts are not known for being particularly lenient or worrying much about the rules of evidence.

Much as I'd like to take that compliment about responsibilities and self-control, the only reason we actually behave any better than our civilian counterparts is that we're constantly being watched and we're scared ******** that someone might *think* that we *might* have done something wrong. We can go to court martial because some guy said some other guy's wife told his wife that you slept with her...and be found guilty. So let's just say mass-murder isn't exactly on our "to-do" list.

KyrilFenrir the Irrelevant. Varus has never been in the military. But he knows all about it from watching 'Full Metal Jacket' twice.

I never said 18 year olds aren't responsible enough, I was disqualifying your anecdote about soldiers and civilians when they are clearly in completely different situations. Even military members do not walk around the streets of America with M-16s on their shoulders and grenades strapped to their chest.

The speech "The moment you're old enough to enlist and die for your country you are also old enough to (insert issue here)" is a tad worn as well. 18 is old enough to go to war but not to buy or consume alcohol, by cigarettes in some counties/states, purchase a firearm, purchase or sell pornography, and a whole mess of other things. I think it's safe to say the majority of Americans believe this is how things should be. Now on to your question.

Though I do call myself a Dem, I do not share the views of far-lefties either. Call it Centrism if it makes you feel better. I do think people should have the right of gun ownership, however I think many Americans do not see the need for Automatic, Semi-automatic, Assault Weapon, or handguns to be so readily available. A shotgun? Okay fine, a high-powered hunting rifle? Okay, I can agree with that. A Semi-Automatic AK-47 with a banana clip and bayonet? What in the world are you going to do with that?

I think it is the "dangerous guns" if you will, such as the semi-automatics and easily concealed handguns that are making a lot of Americans questioning gun control and it's apparent ineffectiveness. Fact is, the last 10 years or so these school shootings are becoming more frequent and much more deadly. No one is doing mass-killings at schools with a knife, sword, a bow and arrow, a crossbow, or a nun-chuck, they are using the very weapons that most people sit idly by in front of the TV and ask "Why are these guns legal?".

It takes quite a bit for the Constitution to be amended, but rest assured, when parents start worrying significantly about their children being killed at school by a crazed gunman with a semi-automatic assault rifle, amendment will be fully in the air.

King Rimesume



Varus



Has living in your bros' (admittedly impressive) shadow left you feeling a bit inadequate varus? It would explain a coupla things........

Actually all my training comes from my 6'9 250lb brother kicking the sh*t out of me on a daily basis, who was incidentally a marine.

Just to clarify, in this context 'kicking' actually means 'penetrating me analy with a baseball bat while I begged for more.'

True story.

Great! Now I got that scene in my head from 'Human Traffic' where our hero is getting anally raped by his manager....Thanx a lot for the laugh.

Paula,



If you've ever been mugged you wouldn't say this. How about living in a neighborhood where break-ins are regular occurences; would you allow your wife to arm herself then?

You're nothing more than a spoiled **** who's been pampered his entire life and can't understand why someone who isn't sheltered would want to carry a weapon to protect themselves. H*ll on any given day I could have up to 20k in cash on me; and you better believe I have a license to carry a concealed weapon. I've talked to other insurance agents who've been robbed at gunpoint upon closing their office at night. It's up to each individual to choose whether they're going to be a victim or not. Clearly d*ckless emo types like Paula would rather be the victim.


Varus