What the h*ll is going on at Va Tech? Just think how many lives could have been saved if this hadn't occured in a 'gun free zone'.
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Twice in less then a year 
The first guy was an escaped criminal, whats the word on this one?
The first guy was an escaped criminal, whats the word on this one?
For the people that don't scour the news sites.
Edited, Apr 16th 2007 11:52am by Kaelesh
All this in a gun free zone. Who'd have thought.
Varus
Varus
achileez wrote:
All this in a gun free zone. Who'd have thought.
Varus
Varus
Is there some sort of magnetic barrier shield that keeps all firearms away?
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Police stops car for broken headlamp outside school, finds 40 pounds of Marijuana
Gee, and right outside of a drug free zone. Who'd have thought.
achileez wrote:
All this in a gun free zone. Who'd have thought.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophed,
I was thinking more along the lines of allowing students the right to bear arms.
Varus
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Varus is right. We need to drastically up funding for enforcement of our gun-free zones.
I was thinking more along the lines of allowing students the right to bear arms.
Varus
Wow...who are they going to blame this one on? Some crazy guy shoots up a college and they'll blame someone other than the guy who did it. Who's it gonna be this time?
Ok, I'm from Canada where it's pretty much a given that anywhere where you're not a cop and where you're not hunting or shotting at the shotting range, is more or less a "Gun Free Zone". Some people might not be able to figure that out and some people do carry guns around, but we don't have near as many gun deaths.
So...what the hell is a "gun free zone."
Virus The wrote:
Just think how many lives could have been saved if this hadn't occured in a 'gun free zone'.
Ok, I'm from Canada where it's pretty much a given that anywhere where you're not a cop and where you're not hunting or shotting at the shotting range, is more or less a "Gun Free Zone". Some people might not be able to figure that out and some people do carry guns around, but we don't have near as many gun deaths.
So...what the hell is a "gun free zone."
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Eske wrote:
I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
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I was thinking more along the lines of allowing students the right to bear arms.
...Are you ******* insane? Half the time it's students who are the ones going and shooting up these places...
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Eske wrote:
I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
Driftwood wrote:
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I was thinking more along the lines of allowing students the right to bear arms.
...Are you @#%^ing insane? Half the time it's students who are the ones going and shooting up these places...
Yes, it's best to just allow the shooter to have a weapon that way he can kill more.
Remind me again at what age can you enlist in the military and go kill people overseas?
Varus
Varus
achileez wrote:
Remind me again at what age can you enlist in the military and go kill people overseas?
Varus
Varus
Go ask your recruiter, chicken sh'it.
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Remind me again at what age can you enlist in the military and go kill people overseas?
No clue, I don't live in your country.
Also, that has nothing to do with anything.
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The World Is Not A Cold Dead Place.
The World Is Not A Cold Dead Place.
Alan Watts wrote:
I am omnipotent insofar as I am the Universe, but I am not an omnipotent in the role of Alan Watts, only cunning
Eske wrote:
I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
Driftless,
No ones perfect.
Yes it does. If an 18yr old can enlist and serve and carry weapons so should normal 18yr old citizens. And any institution that chooses to ignore these students constitutional right to bear arms should face the maximum penalty when something like this occurs. If underclassmen were given the choice on where they live then it might be different; as it is most underclassmen are required to live in dorms.
Varus
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No clue, I don't live in your country.
No ones perfect.
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Also, that has nothing to do with anything.
Yes it does. If an 18yr old can enlist and serve and carry weapons so should normal 18yr old citizens. And any institution that chooses to ignore these students constitutional right to bear arms should face the maximum penalty when something like this occurs. If underclassmen were given the choice on where they live then it might be different; as it is most underclassmen are required to live in dorms.
Varus
Doesn't the military screen for psychological problems before they put a gun in peoples' hands?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Driftwood wrote:
So...what the hell is a "gun free zone."
Basically, it's a special area on any school grounds or within 1,000 feet of school grounds, that isn't your home, that if you are caught with a weapon or commit a gun related crime, you fine/time is doubled.
Samy,
Yes...and I'm not opposed to the same being done with regular citizens.
Varus
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Doesn't the military screen for psychological problems before they put a gun in peoples' hands?
Yes...and I'm not opposed to the same being done with regular citizens.
Varus
Virus wrote:
Yes it does. If an 18yr old can enlist and serve and carry weapons so should normal 18yr old citizens. And any institution that chooses to ignore these students constitutional right to bear arms should face the maximum penalty when something like this occurs. If underclassmen were given the choice on where they live then it might be different; as it is most underclassmen are required to live in dorms.
And how many disturbed students would use that gun to kill his classmates? or to kill himself when he gets too stressed out? How many students would use that gun for stupid things when they're partying?
It doesn't make any sense in today's world to give a bunch of students guns because some idiot feels that they have a constitutional right to carry them.
I don't even know why I bother anymore. I'm a sysop on a very right-wing conservative website and yet I still think I can argue with you people...
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The World Is Not A Cold Dead Place.
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Alan Watts wrote:
I am omnipotent insofar as I am the Universe, but I am not an omnipotent in the role of Alan Watts, only cunning
Eske wrote:
I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
Samira wrote:
Doesn't the military screen for psychological problems before they put a gun in peoples' hands?
And give them nominal firearms training?
I can see it now; a college filled with armed undergraduates. "Someone's shooting! Quick, open fire!" Imagine the additional collateral damage.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Driftless,
About the same amount that go out and purchase guns now. Way to allow your response to be clouded with emotional nonsense rather than logic based on reality.
Varui
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And how many disturbed students would use that gun to kill his classmates? or to kill himself when he gets too stressed out? How many students would use that gun for stupid things when they're partying?
About the same amount that go out and purchase guns now. Way to allow your response to be clouded with emotional nonsense rather than logic based on reality.
Varui
deba,
You know what I see now? I see 30+ shot dead by one person all because no one else was armed except for the mass murderer. Laugh it off all you like but the simple fact is liberalism is responsible for these deaths.
Varus
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I can see it now; a college filled with armed undergraduates. "Someone's shooting! Quick, open fire!" Imagine the additional collateral damage.
You know what I see now? I see 30+ shot dead by one person all because no one else was armed except for the mass murderer. Laugh it off all you like but the simple fact is liberalism is responsible for these deaths.
Varus
I just spoke to my sister about this, and she let me know there's a homeless man stabbing people near Eastern market. Dem East coast folks is crazy.
According to the article, the cops were present and investigating after the first shooting when the rest happened across campus.
I'll be interested to know what kind of gun he was using - it sounds as though the second set of shots happened very quickly.
I'm not so sure he would have been stopped any sooner if civilians were armed, personally.
I'll be interested to know what kind of gun he was using - it sounds as though the second set of shots happened very quickly.
I'm not so sure he would have been stopped any sooner if civilians were armed, personally.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
achileez wrote:
logic based on reality.
Varui
Varui
Dumbass,
Redphoenixxx
President's Statement from VT website.
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Here are some of the facts we know:
At about 7:15 a.m. this morning a 911 call came to the University Police Department concerning an event in West Ambler Johnston Hall. There were multiple shooting victims. While in the process of investigating, about two hours later the university received reports of a shooting in Norris Hall. The police immediately responded. Victims have been transported to various hospitals in the immediate area in the region to receive emergency treatment.
We will proceed to contact the families of victims as identities are available.
At about 7:15 a.m. this morning a 911 call came to the University Police Department concerning an event in West Ambler Johnston Hall. There were multiple shooting victims. While in the process of investigating, about two hours later the university received reports of a shooting in Norris Hall. The police immediately responded. Victims have been transported to various hospitals in the immediate area in the region to receive emergency treatment.
We will proceed to contact the families of victims as identities are available.
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