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BullShit. Sharpton has made several racial slurs, and has made a mockery of equality from day one. Sharpton has targeted white men every single chance he could get, while avoiding anything more than a cursory word about black people. He's done his fair share of problem causing. He has lead racist "rallies" that were the direct causes of death for several people:



Now, just for a moment, let's leave the fact that he's never shown ANY remorse for the deaths that were caused by the rally that he led, in this event he made multiple racist remarks, implying that white people aren't good enough for the 'hood, then proceded to apologize for them. Does that make it ok? Why hasn't he be drawn and quartered? Where was the public outcry? Wait, why didn't he lose his job?

Oh wait, there's more about Sharpton:



So it's ok for him to apologize for being a racist after he's stuck his foot in his mouth, but a white man cannot, and must have his career destroyed?

While I never liked Imus, the call for his firing was wrong (the advertisers only pulled out because Sharpton made such a fuss). He did far less than Sharpton's hippocritical ***, yet Sharpton decided to make an example out of him. This was a racial hit of the worst kind, and to deny it is to deny reality. You can't have it both ways, either an apology makes things ok, or it does not.

While I think that double standards are a huge problem in politics, and entertainment, I have to agree that I am thankfull, DAMN THANKFULL, that I haven't heard about American Idol lately.

It's because of the racial issue. It's one thing for a black man to call a woman a nappy headed hoe, and another for a white man.

Take Chris Rock for instance. He disparages women, white people, black people, and hell, anyone that will get him a laugh. That shouldn't be acceptable. Were I to make the same jokes, and say things such as "stupid ***** shouldn't have run from the police, that's why he got beat" (refrence to Rodney King from an HBO special), there would be an outrage from the black community. However, because he's black, it's ok.

If you turn on a hip-hop radio station, the language is FAR worse than anything I've heard on HBO in a while, with the only exception being Oz. The local morning show, was busy the other day, after the initial outburst on the news about Imus, saying that these girls did look like "nappy headed hoes". For some reason, they get a pass. I wonder why (please note the sarcasm)?

Because these DJs are members of the black community, they can say similar things, and call each other "nIgger/*****/whatthefUckever", and it's ok. They can call women ******* and hoes, and there is no outrage, however, Don Imus, makes a joking refrence mocking the look of these girls, and suddenly he's commited a high crime. He was suspended for the bad comment(which I think it was a bit harsh, but not so much so that it isn't understood), and then he apologized. The apology was accepted; however, Sharpton continued the full court press, and had advertisers pull funds, and forced CBS' upper managment team into firing someone who has been a staple of their network, and one of their highest revenue sources outside of primetime.

Simple fact was that Imus made a HORRIBLE comment. He's done nothing worse than anyone else, yet because he was a white male, he has to suffer for the mistake, where were a black man to make the same comment, people would laugh at it.

Please tell me that a double standard such as this is good for our country.

That is by far the best thing I've read in weeks. It totally sums upi the way I've felt about this whole situation, and why its pissed me off so bad.

heres the deal, and yeah call me what you want

What Don Imus said wasnt very nice, but you know what, its nothing compared to what blacks use to describe their own.

This is partly about money, but unfortunately, Jesse Jackson and Al sharpton will use anything they can to scream racism and social injustice. The Rutgers women, their coaches, ALL of black america... no one would have given a $hit, had it been a black guy that said it. They would have brushed it off as mere heckling. Sports teams get that all the time.

However, the guy was white, so omg, lets all act all offended...

I call BS on this one. They're only offended cause the dude was white. one thing leads to another , and you know what happened.

IMO, the only reason he got fired is because blacks make up such a huge bulk of advertising america, that companies didnt want to be assiciated with someone who the BLACKS mind you, have decided to label as racist to somehow make their imaginary cause for justice relevant.

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, pfft, their next lawsuit will be against Cool Whip for only making their product white. OMG racism.

remember kids, if a white guy doesnt get the job, hes not qualified
if a black guy doesnt get the job, its affirmative action time rawr!!

they scream injustice, I say Blacks as a whole have more rights than any other race on the planet. Try to make an all white college, or an all white miss america, or start up the national association for the advancement of white people. go ahead, and you'll be in jail. why? cause its the way it is.

When a race uses language, but is offended when another uses the same, thats being racist as you can be. What's their defense? "Cultural differences"

Ho, ******** *****, - its not language, its the black language. Freedom of Speech doesnt apply here. Thats why its insulting to them. Because we're using THEIR language without their approval.

This seems to be what most of you people are complaining about, despite the fact that there are areound a billion posts on the first page, mostly from Smash, explaining this.

It's so simple to understand.

When Woody Allen makes one of his many Jewish jokes, implying that Jewish males are insecure mother-hugging money-loving wuss bags, everyone thinks it's great and funny. if a guy from the KKK said the same thing, everyone would agree it was racist. Double standards?

Yes, but for a reason. What people judge is not only the litterary content of a joke or a comment, its the intention behind it too. When a Jewish guy makes a jewish joke, it's called "Self-depreciation". When a KKK guy makes a Jewish joke, its racism. Unfair? Arguably. Normal? Completely.

For those of you that are too tupid to understand the example above, here is an even simpler one:

I can say "My sister is such a biTch", and it's all fine. If you say to me "Your sister is such a biTch", I'll kick your ***, or spit in your face and run really fast if you're big.

At the end of the day, people have lower standards when they themselves are the butt of their jokes. When the butt of the joke is another group/class/race, then it's much more tricky. Simply because it is much ahrder to detect the intention behind the joke.

Allowing any white guy to make racists jokes on air leaves the door open for all sorts of racists to spout hateful comments on air. Whereas allowing people to take the piSs out of themselves, doesn't.

Yes, it's double-standards, but it's logical.

Having said all that, I agree that there is something very wrong with the gangsta culture, on many levels. However, this fact doesn't make it ok for a white guy to do the same and perpetuate that culture. If black people call their women bitChes, it's bad enough. if white guys jump in and say "Well we wanna call them bitCches too!!1" it's just taking the pisS.

Dumbass,

I read a story this morning, and I thought of you!

Here, I'm sure you'll enjoy these kindered spirits.

Well yeah, I meant "on air or otherwise", I should've clarified I guess. My point was just that if you allow this kind of behaviour on air, then it means it's "acceptable" behaviour.



The big deal is that lots of people think it's double-standard to fire Imus for this comment, while rappers get away with much worse.

Ithink that's the issue. And it seems to be confirmed by the O-boards' take on it.



Yeah, it all makes sense economically.

But "morally", it seems that some people are outraged by the "double-standards". I'm leaning towards thinking that is just desguised racism on their part, since when people get "outraged" about Imus being sacked, they're basically arguing for white people's right to call black girls "nappy-headed hoes".

Which to me, stinks of racism.

No white guy ever kicks up a fuss about hip-hop lyrics other than than when a white guy gets in trouble for saying the N word. So it seems to me to be a form of latent racism, or if I'm being nice, a huge lack of understanding of the cultural, economic, historical and racial fabric of the US.

And anyway, all it takes is to listen to one song by Eminen to show that white people can say the N word and "hoes" and not be introuble.

It's all a matter of context, but context is abviously too complicated for some.

Well, no.

That's the advantage of being outraged, you don't need to do anything other than flap your arms, frown, and make loud noises.

*Shrug* Buy an alternate reality machine and let us know. They're also useful for writing novels about what if Hitler took London.

The fact that Sharpton did get involved is in no way evidence that his involvement caused the whole thing.

But it's easier to blame the darkies!

In this case, they didn't!