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#27 Apr 13 2007 at 7:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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He's like 900 years old, it's time for him to retire anyway. Besides, guys like him enjoy going out with a bang!

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#28 Apr 13 2007 at 7:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Also, I guess this shows where the line is.
That's just it -- you never know exactly where the line is. The line is wherever the public (and specifically the consumers) decide it is on that day. Imus wasn't canned because of Sharpton or Jackson, he was canned because CBS saw advertisers dropping out and decided Imus wasn't worth the loss. You can say that Sharpton helped provoke that but Sharpton & Co. get publically offended about six times a week and 99.9% of those incidents don't end in anything beyond a spat of public outrage. For whatever reason, this resonated more with the consumer public.
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And lets not forget that is it perfectly acceptable for Halle Berry to work on a film called Nappily Ever After.

Why isn't Sharpton outraged over that one?
Ask Sharpton. Maybe she doesn't demean anyone by calling them a Nappy-headed ho.
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#29 Apr 13 2007 at 7:10 AM Rating: Decent
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And lets not forget that is it perfectly acceptable for Halle Berry to work on a film called Nappily Ever After.


The implication being there's an unfair double standard when comparing mulatto actresses and dear dead white old men radio show hosts?

Oh the injustice!
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#30 Apr 13 2007 at 7:19 AM Rating: Good
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"In taking him off the air, I believe we take an important and necessary step not just in solving a unique problem, but in changing that culture, which extends far beyond the walls of our company."


I s'pose one can argue that his firing was not an overreaction, but calling it a culture-changing moment is probably overstating the impact a bit, don't you think? I guess though, if you're going to fire a man on the day he holds an anuual fundraiser to raise money for children's charities, you better spin it to look like you're doing it for reasons other than the bottom line.


#31 Apr 13 2007 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
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I guess though, if you're going to fire a man on the day he holds an anuual fundraiser to raise money for children's charities, you better spin it to look like you're doing it for reasons other than the bottom line.


The charities that pay for his summer home?

Don't get me started on his 'charitable' work, please.
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#32 Apr 13 2007 at 7:48 AM Rating: Decent
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The was a major overreaction. Race pandering all over again. One day, the idiots in the media will get that, and stop. Only then can we approach true racial equality.


No, I don't belive that Shit either.


This is so NOT about being a nice, polite, non-judgemental society (or race pandering if you wanna call it that). It's about money.

It was a business decision, had nothing to do with race. The advertisers were pulling their dollars from the radio station. MSN took action to prevent that.





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#33 Apr 13 2007 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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I guess though, if you're going to fire a man on the day he holds an anuual fundraiser to raise money for children's charities, you better spin it to look like you're doing it for reasons other than the bottom line.


The charities that pay for his summer home?

Don't get me started on his 'charitable' work, please.


Ironically, yesterday's fund-raiser received two-hundred calls an hour more than last year's, so I guess Don can now afford to burn a few more crosses down at the Starfish Ranch. There's really no denying that kids do go to the ranch, even if it is horribly inefficient in cost, and that's more than I'd do for kids with cancer if I were in Imus' position. Then again, I've never claimed to have anything but contempt for kids, especially bald ones riddled with yucky tumors.

What's getting my proverbial goat with this story is probably just how it's over-shadowing the Duke lacrosse thing, though. Meh.
#34 Apr 13 2007 at 8:08 AM Rating: Decent
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This is so NOT about being a nice, polite, non-judgemental society (or race pandering if you wanna call it that). It's about money.

It was a business decision, had nothing to do with race. The advertisers were pulling their dollars from the radio station. MSN took action to prevent that.


While I agree that this is capitolism at work, had it not been for the race peddlers known as Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton, complaining about "offensive" speach, he'd still have his job. Let's see them complain about 50 Cent and his defamation of women, and their fellow black people. How about targeting rappers with the same venom they attack the rest of the country. I'm tired of hearing about how a black person was offended by something that they listen to on the radio, or say to each other on a daily basis, or more often.

#35 Apr 13 2007 at 8:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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He's like 900 years old, it's time for him to retire anyway. Besides, guys like him enjoy going out with a bang!

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Pshaw! If there was anybody out there that hadn't heard of him before this incident, they've heard of him now. Add that to the fact that he has had a loyal following of listeners for several decades, and he's hardly done for good.

Expect to see (hear?) him on satellite radio a la Howard Stern.
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#36 Apr 13 2007 at 8:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Expect to see (hear?) him on satellite radio a la Howard Stern.


haha, no chance, at least not on Stern's channel. Howard Stern hates Don Imus and is surely laughing his *** off right now.

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#37 Apr 13 2007 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
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While I agree that this is capitolism at work, had it not been for the race peddlers known as Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton, complaining about "offensive" speach, he'd still have his job.


So? How many national syndicated radio talk show hosts are black? If it wasn't for advertisers caring mainly about white people, the answer might be dozens. Damn white race peddlers.



Let's see them complain about 50 Cent and his defamation of women, and their fellow black people.


What the fuck is wrong with you? 50 Cent is subject to the same market forces as Imus. If people were offended by his speech they'd stop giving him money. Where do you idiots get these ideas?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,265339,00.html


GIBSON: Well, I've been talking about this for a long time. If you're willing to shout down Don Imus, are you willing to go after Jay-Z or 50 Cent or those guys who do this all the time?

SHARPTON: I'm willing to go after anybody and I have.


Oh right, I forgot.



How about targeting rappers with the same venom they attack the rest of the country. I'm tired of hearing about how a black person was offended by something that they listen to on the radio, or say to each other on a daily basis, or more often.


Are you really this threatened by black men's larger ***** that you somehow feel oppressed by them having opinions? I know it's terrible that we can't just keep them in cages until it's time to pick some cotton anymore, but you're really going to have to learn to accept the fact that they're entitled to free speech just like everyone else.



Edited, Apr 13th 2007 12:33pm by Smasharoo
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#38 Apr 13 2007 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
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How about targeting rappers with the same venom they attack the rest of the country. I'm tired of hearing about how a black person was offended by something that they listen to on the radio, or say to each other on a daily basis, or more often.


Are you really this threatened by black men's larger ***** that you somehow feel oppressed by them having opinions? I know it's terrible that we can't just keep them in cages until it's time to pick some cotton anymore, but you're really going to have to learn to accept the fact that they're entitled to free speech just like everyone else.

Yes, they are entitled to free speech like everyone else. The problem comes from the fact that there are not equal consequences for equal actions.

A black man calls a black woman a ho, he sells more records.
A white man calls a black woman a ho, he gets dropped by his employers.

Do you honestly think that Sharpton will go after any rapper for using the same language as Imus?

Isn't holding people to different standards based on skin color more racist than calling someone nappy headed?
#39 Apr 13 2007 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
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What's getting my proverbial goat with this story is probably just how it's over-shadowing the Duke lacrosse thing, though. Meh.

Or how it is overshadowing how the Governor of NJ almost died in a car accident.

But he was on his way to the Imus meeting, so they will probably just blame him for that too.
#40 Apr 13 2007 at 10:22 AM Rating: Good
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Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:

What's getting my proverbial goat with this story is probably just how it's over-shadowing the Duke lacrosse thing, though. Meh.

Or how it is overshadowing how the Governor of NJ almost died in a car accident.

But he was on his way to the Imus meeting, so they will probably just blame him for that too.


Hold on, the governor of NJ is black?
#41 Apr 13 2007 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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.. but you're really going to have to learn to accept the fact that they're entitled to free speech just like everyone else.


Is their speach more free than that of Don Imus? If that isn't the case (which it seems to be), then why is it when a white Christian organization speaks out against violence, hate, degridation of women, etc. in rap music, they're called racists, however, when a black person speaks out against the same things, they're "championing" a cause?
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Is their speach more free than that of Don Imus?


No, moron, it's EQUALLY free. That's the point. You see, fuckstick, rappers have and will continue to face the same level o scrutiny as Imus. In fact they face much more. However, they still sell records. If Imus still sold advertising, he could continue to say whatever he'd like.


If that isn't the case (which it seems to be)


It isn't the case, idiot.


, then why is it when a white Christian organization speaks out against violence, hate, degridation of women, etc. in rap music, they're called racists,


Because they're racists. Wow! That was easy.


however, when a black person speaks out against the same things, they're "championing" a cause?


Because they're not doing it because Imus is white. He just *happens* to be white, because a black man couldn't have his job because he wouldn't be marketable enough. Because of what? That's right, Corky, racism.

So, no, defending your people against racism isn't racist, sorry. I realize you hate and fear black people, but that really doesn't make their actions any less valid.

Maybe try saying their lazy and shiftless.



Edited, Apr 13th 2007 3:37pm by Smasharoo
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#43 Apr 13 2007 at 11:48 AM Rating: Good
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The problem comes from the fact that there are not equal consequences for equal actions.


Of course there are.


A black man calls a black woman a ho, he sells more records.
A white man calls a black woman a ho, he gets dropped by his employers.


Those aren't equal action. Jesus, any time I think that people might not complete slack jawed fools unable to comprehend simple logical standards, all I have to do is come to this board to be brought back to reality.

How the hell is it equal to compare what rappers do or say with what a radio show host does or says. When a black radio show host is nationally syndicated and simulcast on a large cable news network and calls black women 'hos' and nothing happens, let me know.

Then you'll have any sort of foundation for this argument other than being an ignorant cracker.


Do you honestly think that Sharpton will go after any rapper for using the same language as Imus?


Who cares? What does that have to do with a god damn thing? Can we agree that society doesn't hold people in radically different job positions accountable to the dame degree for standards of speech? Are you so rock fucking stupid that you can't understand that?

Can we agree that a boxer saying "I'm going to kill that guy" isn't the same as a nun saying "I'm going to kill that guy"? For fucck sake, what is it with you people so desperate to find fault when blacks stand up for themselves. "Oh nos!! Upitty niggers! Break out the crazy bullshit arguments so I can pretend to have a reason for hating black people!"


Isn't holding people to different standards based on skin color more racist than calling someone nappy headed?


Yes. Of course that's not even vaguely happening here. White rappers aren't selling albums with Perry Cuomo lyrics last time I checked, and black radio show hosts aren't opening their shows with "Was up niggas!!!" When the situation arises where people actually are facing different standards for the color of their skin, then you'll have an excuse to engage in your bare faced racism with a real pretext.

You're completely out of your mind if you think if Imus had called the Welsley Rugy Team "butch **** ************* that everyone would have laughed and none of this would have happened.

You're a racist. Deal with it, it's not black people's fault nor is it their responsibility to make you feel better about it.



Edited, Apr 13th 2007 3:49pm by Smasharoo
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Do you honestly think that Sharpton will go after any rapper for using the same language as Imus?
Is he required to? If you decide he's a hypocrite for not doing so, will that validate Imus' comments?

Not that I'm any fan of Sharpton, but apparently he is/was crusading against violence in rap music, both in lyrics and in the "culture" itself. He is/was buying shares in the music companies to have a stronger voice as a stock-holder and trying to get stations to place a 90-day ban on playing music by any artist involved in gang violence.

Not tha same thing, but it doesn't seem that Sharpton is completely blind to the world of rap.
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Smasharoo wrote:
.. but you're really going to have to learn to accept the fact that they're entitled to free speech just like everyone else.


Is their speach more free than that of Don Imus? If that isn't the case (which it seems to be), then why is it when a white Christian organization speaks out against violence, hate, degridation of women, etc. in rap music, they're called racists, however, when a black person speaks out against the same things, they're "championing" a cause?

A pasty-faced cracker like you just wouldn't understand. Smiley: oyvey
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#46 Apr 13 2007 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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Not that I'm any fan of Sharpton, but apparently he is/was crusading against violence in rap music


Preposterous. Remember, it only happens if Bill O'riley mentions it, otherwise it's just all in your head.
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all of sudden some white talk show host says something derogatory and you libs have a hissy fit.


Really? I mainly said "He's not dead yet?"

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Sharpton didn't have a problem supporting that NAPPY HEADED HO
But he didn't call her a nappy-headed ho. Try and keep up.
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you libs have a hissy fit.
Which libs? My consistant reaction has been "who the hell is Don Imus?"
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