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#1 Apr 10 2007 at 1:52 AM Rating: Decent
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

All about peanut butter, apparently.

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#2 Apr 10 2007 at 4:31 AM Rating: Good
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Their control group obviously didn't contain jars of chunky.
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#3 Apr 10 2007 at 5:17 PM Rating: Decent
If you want to believe hard enough, and are unwilling to listen to the details of the other point of view, you can convince yourself of anything. See, for example, gbaji's posts.

I want to make a video in a similar vein "proving" the earth is flat:

School children every day measure the angles of a triangle, and they add up to 180 degrees. However, if the Earth were curved into a sphere, as "scientists" tell us, they should add up to more then 180 degrees.

(For example, a triangle following the equator one quarter way around the Earth and having two right angles to the North, meet at the North Pole and form a third right angle, total sum of angles is 270 degrees!)

...and it would be wrong for the analogous reasons.
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For example, a triangle following the equator one quarter way around the Earth and having two right angles to the North, meet at the North Pole and form a third right angle, total sum of angles is 270 degrees!)


Ummm...I'm feeling a bit thick. try as i might, I cant picture what your sayin here... Smiley: confused

edit. Im sure you're right tho.....

Edited, Apr 10th 2007 9:24pm by paulsol
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#5 Apr 10 2007 at 6:37 PM Rating: Decent
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yossarian wrote:
School children every day measure the angles of a triangle, and they add up to 180 degrees. However, if the Earth were curved into a sphere, as "scientists" tell us, they should add up to more then 180 degrees.

(For example, a triangle following the equator one quarter way around the Earth and having two right angles to the North, meet at the North Pole and form a third right angle, total sum of angles is 270 degrees!)

...and it would be wrong for the analogous reasons.


Um... Triangles are two dimensional constructs. Obviously, the "rules" don't work if you curve the surface the triangle is drawn on.

Obvious for some anyway. ;)

Edited, Apr 10th 2007 7:37pm by gbaji
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#6 Apr 10 2007 at 6:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Obvious for some anyway.


Less obvious, I guess, is that it's impossible to 'draw' something two dimensionally.

Oh well, math is hard for community college kids I suppose.

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#7 Apr 10 2007 at 8:00 PM Rating: Good
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I actually saw a lot of the show from where that clip is taken from on TCT, and sadly enough the whole video is pretty much like that.
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#10 Apr 10 2007 at 11:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Who is it that said that the world would be terribly sad if it weren't so funny? I don't know about you guys but laughing at the same thing over and over again gets boring. I used to love the movie Dogma but then comedy central started showing it 30 times a year.

Edited, Apr 11th 2007 12:25am by Lefian
#11 Apr 10 2007 at 11:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Who is it that said that the world would be terribly sad if it weren't so funny? I don't know about you guys but laughing at the same thing over and over again gets boring. I used to love the movie Dogma but then comedy central started showing it 30 times a year.

Edited, Apr 11th 2007 12:25am by Lefian


That's what brain wipes are for! When you don't remember ever seeing the movie before it magically becomes hilarious!
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#12 Apr 11 2007 at 8:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've long thought that peanut butter proved the existance of God. That and chocolate.

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#13 Apr 11 2007 at 9:16 AM Rating: Decent
gbaji wrote:
yossarian wrote:
School children every day measure the angles of a triangle, and they add up to 180 degrees. However, if the Earth were curved into a sphere, as "scientists" tell us, they should add up to more then 180 degrees.

(For example, a triangle following the equator one quarter way around the Earth and having two right angles to the North, meet at the North Pole and form a third right angle, total sum of angles is 270 degrees!)

...and it would be wrong for the analogous reasons.


Um... Triangles are two dimensional constructs. Obviously, the "rules" don't work if you curve the surface the triangle is drawn on.

Edited, Apr 10th 2007 7:37pm by gbaji


You missed the point.

1. If the angles add up to 180, the surface is flat.

2. School children add up the angles every day, they sum to 180.

3. Therefore, each measurement means the surface, the Earth, is flat.

4. This is inaccurate for analogous reasons to why the peanut butter video is inaccurate.

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This planet is going to turn out just like Idiocracy but it's going to be way worse.
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(For example, a triangle following the equator one quarter way around the Earth and having two right angles to the North, meet at the North Pole and form a third right angle, total sum of angles is 270 degrees!)


See this is where you lose me.

Edited, Apr 11th 2007 10:24am by Lefian
#15 Apr 11 2007 at 9:23 AM Rating: Decent
paulsol the Flatulent wrote:
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For example, a triangle following the equator one quarter way around the Earth and having two right angles to the North, meet at the North Pole and form a third right angle, total sum of angles is 270 degrees!)


Ummm...I'm feeling a bit thick. try as i might, I cant picture what your sayin here... Smiley: confused

edit. Im sure you're right tho.....

Edited, Apr 10th 2007 9:24pm by paulsol


Take a globe. Put a dot at the north pole. Put two dots on the Equator - make them one quarter of the circumference apart. Connect the dots with the shortest possible lines (over the surface of the sphere). They are not straight lines in space, but appear straight locally on Earth.

Measure each interior angle of the triangle. They sum to more then 180 degrees. Here's why:

Each angle on the equator is from the equator to due North, and thus are right angles. Those two alone sum to 180 degrees (90+90).

The angle at the North pole is actually also 90, if you put the two dots exactly one quarter the way around the globe. This doesn't really matter for the argument - only that the sum of the angles on a curved surface don't sum to 180 - so I know it may be difficult to prove to yourself that the sum is actually 270 (that the angle at the North pole is 90).
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#17 Apr 11 2007 at 9:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can't be ***** to watch the video, but I still wanted to pad my post count. 30k, here I come!

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I can't be ***** to watch the video, but I still wanted to pad my post count. 30k, here I come!
Pffttt... unless Alla is sending a steak to my house to celebrate, I don't think 30k will be any great event.
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#19 Apr 11 2007 at 9:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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I can't be ***** to watch the video, but I still wanted to pad my post count. 30k, here I come!
Pffttt... unless Alla is sending a steak to my house to celebrate, I don't think 30k will be any great event.

Not even for the massive e-peen inflation? I'm sure it'll also spawn a whole new round of "you have no life, you live in your mom's basement, you're fat and have acne" trolls, which will undoubtably provide at least some level of amusement.

If not for yourself, do it for the history books!
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I get it now that I can picture it but I don't think I'll ever meet a person that knows that a Triangle has 180 degrees that also has enough sense to connect the dots to disprove the world being curved.
#21 Apr 11 2007 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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yossarian wrote:
paulsol the Flatulent wrote:
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For example, a triangle following the equator one quarter way around the Earth and having two right angles to the North, meet at the North Pole and form a third right angle, total sum of angles is 270 degrees!)


Ummm...I'm feeling a bit thick. try as i might, I cant picture what your sayin here... Smiley: confused

edit. Im sure you're right tho.....

Edited, Apr 10th 2007 9:24pm by paulsol


Take a globe. Put a dot at the north pole. Put two dots on the Equator - make them one quarter of the circumference apart. Connect the dots with the shortest possible lines (over the surface of the sphere). They are not straight lines in space, but appear straight locally on Earth.

Measure each interior angle of the triangle. They sum to more then 180 degrees. Here's why:

Each angle on the equator is from the equator to due North, and thus are right angles. Those two alone sum to 180 degrees (90+90).

The angle at the North pole is actually also 90, if you put the two dots exactly one quarter the way around the globe. This doesn't really matter for the argument - only that the sum of the angles on a curved surface don't sum to 180 - so I know it may be difficult to prove to yourself that the sum is actually 270 (that the angle at the North pole is 90).



A triangle is a polygon with three vertices and three sides which are straight line segments.

You're not making straight lines. You're drawing a line along the curvature of the earth's surface. So it's not really a triangle is it?
#22 Apr 11 2007 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
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You missed the point. He's talking about a person in denial teaching a bunch of retards that the world is flat. Making a Triangle like this would prove the world is curved but there is a much simpler way involving sticks and shadows I believe.
#23 Apr 11 2007 at 10:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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There is no triangle.

translation: this is boring, amuse me!

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#24 Apr 11 2007 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
Sorry Nexa, this will be boring. Skip it. Maybe my next post will be about something really exciting, like the fluctuation-dissipation theorem.

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For example, a triangle following the equator one quarter way around the Earth and having two right angles to the North, meet at the North Pole and form a third right angle, total sum of angles is 270 degrees!)


Ummm...I'm feeling a bit thick. try as i might, I cant picture what your sayin here... Smiley: confused

edit. Im sure you're right tho.....

Edited, Apr 10th 2007 9:24pm by paulsol


Take a globe. Put a dot at the north pole. Put two dots on the Equator - make them one quarter of the circumference apart. Connect the dots with the shortest possible lines (over the surface of the sphere). They are not straight lines in space, but appear straight locally on Earth.

Measure each interior angle of the triangle. They sum to more then 180 degrees. Here's why:

Each angle on the equator is from the equator to due North, and thus are right angles. Those two alone sum to 180 degrees (90+90).

The angle at the North pole is actually also 90, if you put the two dots exactly one quarter the way around the globe. This doesn't really matter for the argument - only that the sum of the angles on a curved surface don't sum to 180 - so I know it may be difficult to prove to yourself that the sum is actually 270 (that the angle at the North pole is 90).



A triangle is a polygon with three vertices and three sides which are straight line segments.

You're not making straight lines. You're drawing a line along the curvature of the earth's surface. So it's not really a triangle is it?


That is acceptable. Let's call it a MentalTri, in that case.

1. The angles of a triangle sum to 180.

2. Schoolchildren everyday sum these angles and find 180 (just like we open jars of peanut butter every day and do not observe new life).

3. "Scientists" tell us that the Earth is curved, and that, in fact, the schoolchildren are drawing MentalTris, and the angles should add to more then 180.

4. Obviously the "scientists" are wrong and the Earth is flat.

5. This line of reasoning is wrong for analogous reasons to why the linked video is wrong.
#25 Apr 11 2007 at 10:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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yossarian wrote:
Sorry Nexa, this will be boring. Skip it. Maybe my next post will be about something really exciting, like the fluctuation-dissipation theorem.


That would be more interesting, though over my head, since I don't feel it should be painfully obvious.

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#26 Apr 11 2007 at 10:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Did I mention that I haven't had a cigarette since Friday? Sorry if I'm being snarkier than usual.

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