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Another message board topic made me curious. What religion are you? What made you decide to believe in what you believe (religiously speaking)?
Science, or if you prefer, agnosticism. Without addressing what I see as weaknesses in other religions... I think that to believe something means to accept it as a truth while admitting that you don't know if it is true, and that to me makes no sense whatsoever. I don't know, and I won't pretend to know, nor will I assume that the thing which seems most likely to be true (or what I most want to be true) must be the truth. In short, I don't have a religion... just a series of educated guesses.
Most people's mantra is faith. Mine is hope. I make the best decision I can with what I have and hope it's the right one. I think others do the same but either aren't as well-informed/educated as myself or aren't as capable of interpreting the information they do have. For that reason I don't consider myself morally superior (I consider my methods superior, but I imagine all people do), just lucky.
Most people's mantra is faith. Mine is hope. I make the best decision I can with what I have and hope it's the right one. I think others do the same but either aren't as well-informed/educated as myself or aren't as capable of interpreting the information they do have. For that reason I don't consider myself morally superior (I consider my methods superior, but I imagine all people do), just lucky.
I'm a recent convert to Voodoo.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
According to the Navy I am Christian. But my honest belief is psuedo christian I belive the Bible but I dont belive the time line of the bible I.E. the creation of the world, I belive was an evolutionary event set in motion by God. Among other thing. I came to this way of thinking while hearing my granfather and my Dad (who was a preacher now an A&P professor at liberty) argue this point.
Semi-practicing Catholic. It's like being Protestant except we get our own mini-nation. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, John Calvin!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Well, I believe in the soul, the cOck, the pUssy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.
I'm a confirmed Catholic, but I'm a practicing Agnostic.
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
/Swoons for BT
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I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter.
Seconded. AL pitchers need to learn to hit.
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
Practicing Agnostic. Beginning to lean Atheistic though.
People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome. ~River Tam
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I worship Joe Pesci.
Religion, all it really is a routine for ones life and an attempt to reach the Heavens. I don't want a religion...In the past I tried religion, it never worked out and I got into the thought process of living for myself on my own. That soon turned out to be a horrible choice...it led me into depression. I went through a lot of trouble trying to find my life's purpose. Then something amazing happened.
I came to have a relationship with El Chay and it is so much better than what religion can offer. My Faith is not in Faith, my Hope is not in Hope, my Joy is not of Joy, my Peace is not of Peace, these things are in my Abba and I abound in His love and purpose for me.
I find that it takes more Faith to believe in the world than it does to believe in El Shaddai. Its a sad thing to have to worry so much over Bills, Food, Housing, having a Job, what ones life means, and the like.
Hallelujah Yahweh Yireh! For I never have to worry of any of those if I stay in Maon. And knowing Yahweh Roi will always take me back if I fall away is equally amazing.
I rejoice in the peace, hope, joy and love in Elolam who has given me a purpose for my life and who has made Himself known to me.
What a wonderful gift it is to have these things. I would choose the giver of these gifts any day over the things of this world.
What a wonderful gift, Eternal Life, and its not too far from you. How wonderful!
I came to have a relationship with El Chay and it is so much better than what religion can offer. My Faith is not in Faith, my Hope is not in Hope, my Joy is not of Joy, my Peace is not of Peace, these things are in my Abba and I abound in His love and purpose for me.
I find that it takes more Faith to believe in the world than it does to believe in El Shaddai. Its a sad thing to have to worry so much over Bills, Food, Housing, having a Job, what ones life means, and the like.
Hallelujah Yahweh Yireh! For I never have to worry of any of those if I stay in Maon. And knowing Yahweh Roi will always take me back if I fall away is equally amazing.
I rejoice in the peace, hope, joy and love in Elolam who has given me a purpose for my life and who has made Himself known to me.
What a wonderful gift it is to have these things. I would choose the giver of these gifts any day over the things of this world.
What a wonderful gift, Eternal Life, and its not too far from you. How wonderful!
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Qui s'estime petit deviendra grand.
Qui s'estime petit deviendra grand.
Only thing I recognized from that was yaweh. Is that like "House of Yaweh"?
Hebrew for Lord.
Edit: I find myself speaking a bit a Hebrew and other words I have no idea about if its even human tongue when I get deep into prayer. The only explanation I've found for it was in the Scriptures. Quite a phenomena when I hear it from others.
Edited, Mar 29th 2007 2:21am by Sogoro
Edit: I find myself speaking a bit a Hebrew and other words I have no idea about if its even human tongue when I get deep into prayer. The only explanation I've found for it was in the Scriptures. Quite a phenomena when I hear it from others.
Edited, Mar 29th 2007 2:21am by Sogoro
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Qui s'estime petit deviendra grand.
Qui s'estime petit deviendra grand.
I was brought up a catholic, like all the good, white, middle-class Parisians. I was baptised and did my communion.
Then, when I was 14-15, I saw the light. I couldn't understand why if the Church people "talked to God", they had always gotten everything wrong over the last 2000 years. So, I stoped believing in "The Church".
Then, a bit later, I thought it didn't make any sense that "our" religion was right, and, say Islam, or Judaism, was "wrong". It just looked like brands competiting for a market share. And then there were all the **** rules (like not eating meat on Friday, or having to go to a designed building to talk to God...). Surely, I thought, He has more pressing concerns.
None of it made any real sense, or felt pure, or true. It just felt like an organised scam, where everyone either knew it was ******** but went along anyway, for the symbolism, or people were just compeltely stupid and really thought the World was created in 6 days, and took all those Bible stories seriously, and not for the metaphors that they are. So, to me, it felt like people were either hypocrits (those who knew it was lies), or idiots (those who believed in the Bible literally).
So, that was it for me and organised religion.
Today, I can't look at the world and think that it all came about "by chance", by luck, or by pure randomness. It's just too damn complex and intricate to be purely the lucky and random result of chemical reactions. When you think about the fact that the world is one giant eco-system, where all its components interact with each other to produce what we see today, and when you know that the world had, roughly, one chance in billions to turn out to be the planet it is, I just can't believe it's all random.
The other thing that makes me a non-atheist, is that Big Bang. Surely, if there was *nothing* before, and if there is no "creating force", then the Big Bang wouldn't have happened. Nothing comes out of nothing. Or, to put it another way, I find the theory that says that there was *nothing*, and then a huge explosion, and then all this interraction, and then the world as we know it, and that all this happened "on its own", I find this theory just as unlikely as the Christian/Muslim/Judaism one.
So, all this to say, I don't know. I believe in a "creative force", that some people call God. I think it should just be called "Life". I don't think it's sentient, I don't think it cares about us as individuals, I don't think you can "talk" to it, but at the same time, i feel it's what we are. "God", for me, is the cumulation of everything that exists in the universe. The universe is "god", we are all parts of this thing. So, we can't talk directly to "it", but we are "it".
Because of that, i quite believe in some form of Karma (though obviously not as direct as "my name is Earl" Karma, but I do think that all actions have reactions and consequences, which will affect us all one day, one way or another. And this, in a way, is Karma.
I also believe in some form of reincarnation. Not the straightforward one, but imagine that there is, somewhere, a giant pot. This pot is fileld with "Life". When a new entity is born, a little bit of that Life is taken from the pot and put into the entity. When you die, "Life" goes back in the pot. It's an imagery, obviously, but I do think that there is something common in all life, and that some people look like animals so much that they must have been one someday, or at least part of them were.
And, finally, I believe in cycles. And spirals. In everything. I think the Buddhist are spot on in that respect.
If I was forced, at gunpoint, to choose a religion, I would be Buddhist. But I really don't like organised religion, and Buddhists have plenty of rules that seem silly to me. Also, I don't think you should need a "certificate" to believe in something.
So yeah, I guess I have my own religion. I'm a Redphoenixxxian. Or a Redphoenixxxist.
Then, when I was 14-15, I saw the light. I couldn't understand why if the Church people "talked to God", they had always gotten everything wrong over the last 2000 years. So, I stoped believing in "The Church".
Then, a bit later, I thought it didn't make any sense that "our" religion was right, and, say Islam, or Judaism, was "wrong". It just looked like brands competiting for a market share. And then there were all the **** rules (like not eating meat on Friday, or having to go to a designed building to talk to God...). Surely, I thought, He has more pressing concerns.
None of it made any real sense, or felt pure, or true. It just felt like an organised scam, where everyone either knew it was ******** but went along anyway, for the symbolism, or people were just compeltely stupid and really thought the World was created in 6 days, and took all those Bible stories seriously, and not for the metaphors that they are. So, to me, it felt like people were either hypocrits (those who knew it was lies), or idiots (those who believed in the Bible literally).
So, that was it for me and organised religion.
Today, I can't look at the world and think that it all came about "by chance", by luck, or by pure randomness. It's just too damn complex and intricate to be purely the lucky and random result of chemical reactions. When you think about the fact that the world is one giant eco-system, where all its components interact with each other to produce what we see today, and when you know that the world had, roughly, one chance in billions to turn out to be the planet it is, I just can't believe it's all random.
The other thing that makes me a non-atheist, is that Big Bang. Surely, if there was *nothing* before, and if there is no "creating force", then the Big Bang wouldn't have happened. Nothing comes out of nothing. Or, to put it another way, I find the theory that says that there was *nothing*, and then a huge explosion, and then all this interraction, and then the world as we know it, and that all this happened "on its own", I find this theory just as unlikely as the Christian/Muslim/Judaism one.
So, all this to say, I don't know. I believe in a "creative force", that some people call God. I think it should just be called "Life". I don't think it's sentient, I don't think it cares about us as individuals, I don't think you can "talk" to it, but at the same time, i feel it's what we are. "God", for me, is the cumulation of everything that exists in the universe. The universe is "god", we are all parts of this thing. So, we can't talk directly to "it", but we are "it".
Because of that, i quite believe in some form of Karma (though obviously not as direct as "my name is Earl" Karma, but I do think that all actions have reactions and consequences, which will affect us all one day, one way or another. And this, in a way, is Karma.
I also believe in some form of reincarnation. Not the straightforward one, but imagine that there is, somewhere, a giant pot. This pot is fileld with "Life". When a new entity is born, a little bit of that Life is taken from the pot and put into the entity. When you die, "Life" goes back in the pot. It's an imagery, obviously, but I do think that there is something common in all life, and that some people look like animals so much that they must have been one someday, or at least part of them were.
And, finally, I believe in cycles. And spirals. In everything. I think the Buddhist are spot on in that respect.
If I was forced, at gunpoint, to choose a religion, I would be Buddhist. But I really don't like organised religion, and Buddhists have plenty of rules that seem silly to me. Also, I don't think you should need a "certificate" to believe in something.
So yeah, I guess I have my own religion. I'm a Redphoenixxxian. Or a Redphoenixxxist.
Religion, religion.
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa
Where's the church, who took the steeple
Religion's in the hands of some crazy *** people
Television preachers with bad hair and dimples
The God's honest truth is it's not that simple
It's the Buddhist in you, it's the pagan in me
It's the Muslim in him, she's Catholic ain't she?
It's that born again look, it's the wasp and the Jew
Tell me what's goin on, I ain't got a clue
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa
Where's the church, who took the steeple
Religion's in the hands of some crazy *** people
Television preachers with bad hair and dimples
The God's honest truth is it's not that simple
It's the Buddhist in you, it's the pagan in me
It's the Muslim in him, she's Catholic ain't she?
It's that born again look, it's the wasp and the Jew
Tell me what's goin on, I ain't got a clue
I don't have one. I wasn't baptized and never went to church growing up. Father was atheist, mom was Lutheran. Now that I'm all grown up I am still non-practicing and not all that interested in religion. I'd like to believe in God, but deep down I really don't.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
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Today, I can't look at the world and think that it all came about "by chance", by luck, or by pure randomness. It's just too damn complex and intricate to be purely the lucky and random result of chemical reactions. When you think about the fact that the world is one giant eco-system, where all its components interact with each other to produce what we see today, and when you know that the world had, roughly, one chance in billions to turn out to be the planet it is, I just can't believe it's all random.
Well, I don't necessarily agree with the "Big bang" theory either, and I don't think "random" is the way to describe it. On the other hand, I've heard it said by many scientists that the whole "one in billions" is purely wrong. Besides, 1 in a billion isn't at all impressive when you consider how big the universe is. I'm no astronomer but I can imagine there are trillions of planets. I don't think anything is random either... I think all particles, atoms and subatomic particles, behave in predictable ways. They're not really random but I don't think that there was someone pulling the strings to make the universe. I think the universe has always existed. The idea that something could come out of nothing, as you put it, makes little sense, and that includes any kind of God. On the other hand, "matter can neither be created nor destroyed, only changed," makes perfect sense to me.
But there could be a god. If there is, I more suspect that he's from another universe where their high school students make universes for their class projects (ours was probably by a sadistic punk who got an F), or perhaps he is a mad scientist who has created and studied many universes, and ours is but a forgotten one on the shelf, or maybe we rolled behind a desk or something. Maybe that's why he only comes around every couple millenia. At least those theories seem as plausible to me as any of the organized religions today.
Folk Catholic. I grew up thinking I was just a Catholic, but I've travelled enough here that I can see and appreciate the difference.
Deism,
A God that sees natural disasters happen that kill thousands of his believers, but fails to stop it is either impotent, indifferent, or evil. However on the other side something isn't created out of nothingness without some sort of "all powerful being".
In fact, I doubt the collective of human intelligence could even comprehend the true state of a "god".
Is there a "Higher Power"? Absolutely, is there a Christian/Islam/Buddhist/Aztec/Roman/Pagan God(s)? Unlikely. To claim to functionally concept a god is an exercise in futility.
A God that sees natural disasters happen that kill thousands of his believers, but fails to stop it is either impotent, indifferent, or evil. However on the other side something isn't created out of nothingness without some sort of "all powerful being".
In fact, I doubt the collective of human intelligence could even comprehend the true state of a "god".
Is there a "Higher Power"? Absolutely, is there a Christian/Islam/Buddhist/Aztec/Roman/Pagan God(s)? Unlikely. To claim to functionally concept a god is an exercise in futility.
We believe in nothing Lewbowski, NOTHING!
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
bodhisattva wrote:
We believe in nothing Lewbowski, NOTHING!
Sh*t! That should have been mine...
Stupid Pesci.
Edited, Mar 29th 2007 10:21am by Kaelesh
That must be exhausting.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jesus Christ... do you just have a box with a crank that spits out Lewbowski avatars?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Jesus Christ... do you just have a box with a crank that spits out Lewbowski avatars?
Close... it's a Bowling Ball Bag of Everlasting Lebowski +1
Jophiel wrote:
Jesus Christ... do you just have a box with a crank that spits out Lewbowski avatars?
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