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#27 Mar 17 2007 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
4/16. That test is racist! Smiley: glare
#28 Mar 17 2007 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Your Score: You got 6 right out of 16 questions, for a score of 37 percent.

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#29 Mar 17 2007 at 2:10 PM Rating: Good
5/16

Which is odd, because I know for a fact Zack Morris is bad at math....
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#30 Mar 21 2007 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I got 7 out of 16 the first time. I approached it the opposite way. Assumed that the "trick" was that they were all some combination instead of a single backround (which I think only actually occured in one case that I can remember). Still managed to get a bunch wrong though, but on most I was just guessing anway...


It's a somewhat silly test IMO. Including such things as "latino" and "jewish"? Um... A latino is someone from a "latin country" (Pretty much anywhere in the Americas that is *not* the US or Canada). So if I were to move to mexico, my kids would be latino, regardless of what their ancestry is. You could be pure Native American, pure Spanish or Portuguese (which would be "white, of European decent", or pure African, but if you were born in say Honduras, you are a Latino/Latina.

Jewish is a damn religion. Not sure what that has to do with anything, or why not being able to see that someone's Jewish is some failure of racial recognition (hah. But I got that one right...).
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Jewish is a damn religion. Not sure what that has to do with anything, or why not being able to see that someone's Jewish is some failure of racial recognition (hah. But I got that one right...).

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#34 Mar 21 2007 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
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Wow, gbaji. Your ignorance knows no limits. Jewish is both a religion and an ethnicity.
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Wow, gbaji. Your ignorance knows no limits. Jewish is both a religion and an ethnicity.


Yes. That was part of the point. Since it is *both*, you can't assume that someone who identifies themselves as "Jewish" is identifying their ethnicity or their religion. Same deal with Latino. It literally has to do with where you came from, but different people use it differently. Lots of people who's families have lived in the US for generations identify themselves as "latino". Does it really mean anything? Not really...


I'm just pointing out the disconnect when suggesting that people's ability to recognize racial characteristics are flawed when the possibilities include things that have *nothing* to do with race.
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Your Score: You got 5 right out of 16 questions, for a score of 31 percent.

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#37 Mar 21 2007 at 5:02 PM Rating: Good
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Wow, gbaji. Your ignorance knows no limits. Jewish is both a religion and an ethnicity.


Yes. That was part of the point. Since it is *both*, you can't assume that someone who identifies themselves as "Jewish" is identifying their ethnicity or their religion. Same deal with Latino. It literally has to do with where you came from, but different people use it differently. Lots of people who's families have lived in the US for generations identify themselves as "latino". Does it really mean anything? Not really...


I'm just pointing out the disconnect when suggesting that people's ability to recognize racial characteristics are flawed when the possibilities include things that have *nothing* to do with race.


There is no disconnect you moran. When someone asks you to guess an ethnicity and one of your choices includes, oh say Jew, you infer from the fUcking question they mean ethnic Jew and not someone who converted to the religion, asshat.
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There is no disconnect you moran. When someone asks you to guess an ethnicity and one of your choices includes, oh say Jew, you infer from the fUcking question they mean ethnic Jew and not someone who converted to the religion, asshat.


And what, exactly, is an "ethnic Jew"? Heck. For that matter, what does "ethnic" mean in this context? Do you mean middle eastern? So if someone from the region around modern day Israel migrated to Europe during Roman times, interbred there for about say 1500 years, then migrated to America, then interbred some more, we're supposed to believe there is *any* connection to the original ethnicity, much less be expected to be able to tell this?

Um... What's the point again? It would be like me (or Joph) claiming Mongol ancestry because I'm a tiny bit Polish and a good amount of Mongol inbreeding occured there about 900 years ago...

The *only* relevant feature to being Jewish for something like 99.99% of Jews today is the religion. If their great great great great grandmother had converted to another religion, there would be nothing to indicate otherwise.
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It's a somewhat silly test IMO. Including such things as "latino" and "jewish"? Um... A latino is someone from a "latin country" (Pretty much anywhere in the Americas that is *not* the US or Canada). So if I were to move to mexico, my kids would be latino, regardless of what their ancestry is. You could be pure Native American, pure Spanish or Portuguese (which would be "white, of European decent", or pure African, but if you were born in say Honduras, you are a Latino/Latina.
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#40 Mar 21 2007 at 6:59 PM Rating: Good
gbaji wrote:
A latino is someone from a "latin country" (Pretty much anywhere in the Americas that is *not* the US or Canada). So if I were to move to mexico, my kids would be latino, regardless of what their ancestry is. You could be pure Native American, pure Spanish or Portuguese (which would be "white, of European decent", or pure African, but if you were born in say Honduras, you are a Latino/Latina)


So if it's a semantics issue for you, then what moniker do you assign our brown-hued, dark-featured, sexy friends?

Oh, and the bolded bit just makes no sense to me after the previous two sentences, so please explain it to me with a minimum of two-thousand words.
#41 Mar 21 2007 at 7:09 PM Rating: Good
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So if it's a semantics issue for you, then what moniker do you assign our brown-hued, dark-featured, sexy friends?


People?

I don't make a point of arbitrarily assigning labels to others, nor do I feel any particular need to put people into catagories based on what they look like.

I certainly respect if someone wants to do that to themselves, but that's their choice. Thus, if a black man says he's Jewish, that's fine. If a blonde woman says she's a Latina, more power to her. I just don't place any particular value in those things myself.

Maybe if more people adopted this attitude? Just thinking out loud here...
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gbaji wrote:
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There is no disconnect you moran. When someone asks you to guess an ethnicity and one of your choices includes, oh say Jew, you infer from the fUcking question they mean ethnic Jew and not someone who converted to the religion, asshat.


And what, exactly, is an "ethnic Jew"? Heck. For that matter, what does "ethnic" mean in this context? Do you mean middle eastern? So if someone from the region around modern day Israel migrated to Europe during Roman times, interbred there for about say 1500 years, then migrated to America, then interbred some more, we're supposed to believe there is *any* connection to the original ethnicity, much less be expected to be able to tell this?

And the same applies to every ethnicity on the planet. You're just trying to mask your ignorance of the Jews.


#43 Mar 21 2007 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
So this whole stance about Jewish and Latino not being races is to help you feel better about yourself for getting a bad score on a "silly" quiz?
#44 Mar 21 2007 at 7:54 PM Rating: Good
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Your Score: You got 7 right out of 16 questions, for a score of 43 percent.


Not too bad, some of them were pretty hard ^ ^
#45 Mar 21 2007 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
gbaji wrote:
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So if it's a semantics issue for you, then what moniker do you assign our brown-hued, dark-featured, sexy friends?


People?

I don't make a point of arbitrarily assigning labels to others, nor do I feel any particular need to put people into catagories based on what they look like.

I certainly respect if someone wants to do that to themselves, but that's their choice. Thus, if a black man says he's Jewish, that's fine. If a blonde woman says she's a Latina, more power to her. I just don't place any particular value in those things myself.

Maybe if more people adopted this attitude? Just thinking out loud here...


Oh fUck you. That's a total cop-out. We're talking about a silly little quiz here, and you're just being purposely naive to suggest you can't or won't identify or at least speculate on someone's race by observing their physical characteristics. I swear, you get more bizarre with every post.
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#48 Mar 22 2007 at 3:18 PM Rating: Good
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Oh fUck you. That's a total cop-out. We're talking about a silly little quiz here, and you're just being purposely naive to suggest you can't or won't identify or at least speculate on someone's race by observing their physical characteristics. I swear, you get more bizarre with every post.


Sure. And the second "Jewish" and "Latino" become indentifiable via physical characteristics, then I'll agree with you.

My entire objection was that the quiz is essentially asking us to identify things that have nothing to do with physical characteristics by looking at a picture of someone. It would be equally silly to ask what languages someone speaks by showing the same pictures. Jewish and Latino are cultural references, not racial. They are certainly not linked in any way to any physical characteristics, nor should anyone be expected to be able to identify them by looking at a photograph of someone.

And it has nothing to do with "doing poorly on the quiz". I got 7 right, which is above average for the group. Heck. I even got the jewish question right. Of course, I didn't get it right because I looked at the guy and thought "He looks jewish". I got it right because I figured they wouldn't have put it down as an option unless he was. I also assumed that they included that option in his case specifically because most people would assume that a black rapper would not be jewish. Oddly, you'll note that they didn't include any photos of guys in black suits with long curled hair sticking down the sides of their hats, with the option "jewish" under them. Wonder why that is?

It's testing stereotypes. And doing so in a very blatant and obvious (and silly!) way by deliberately picking people that wont "look" like the stereotype to most people. Kinda like the pale red haired woman who was part black. But specifically doing so invalidates the test. While the presumed objective is valid, "You can't judge someone based on what they look like", the method is annoying to me. I don't think we need bogus tests to explain to people why they shouldn't catagorize people based on how they look. I'd also even go so far as to suggest that by presenting this as a "quiz", it makes people think that they should endeavor to become better at differentiating people based on their appearance, when IMHO they really should be doing the exact opposite.
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It's testing stereotypes.


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It's testing stereotypes.


You've done it again, Holmes!


Way to miss the entire rest of the paragraph where I explain why their method of doing so is stupid. Whatever...
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#51 Mar 22 2007 at 3:35 PM Rating: Good
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Heck. I even got the jewish question right. Of course, I didn't get it right because I looked at the guy and thought "He looks jewish". I got it right because I figured they wouldn't have put it down as an option unless he was. I also assumed that they included that option in his case specifically because most people would assume that a black rapper would not be jewish.


Okay, so I just took the quiz again, to make sure that the dude was who I was thinking about, and found out something you might be interested in. Apparently, the jewish/black/etc man from the quiz is a guy named Chino XL, however, I thought he was this guy.

Now here's the thing, and I didn't know this before, but it turns out Sean Paul is a freaking Jamaican Jew, who knew? So it appears you can tell a jew just by looking at them; they're blackish, and they wear corn-rows. Man, jews are sneaky!


Edited, Mar 22nd 2007 4:37pm by Barkingturtle
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