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The Plame case was investigated at the request of the CIA to discover, among other things, whether or not a crime had been committed. I'm lost at what your point is here.
Sure. And they determined that no crime had been commited, yet somehow the investigation succeeded in snaring a White House official in a perjury charge...
In exactly the way the only reason for any sort of investigation in this case isn't to see if it's actually illegal for the President to fire these guys, but to get senior administration officials under oath and see if they can catch them in perjury (or just convince a jury that a lie occured).
Seeing the connection yet? It's an investigation in search of a crime. Again...
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First off, how do you know that's a lie?
Erm, because they've changed their story since then? And because some of the "poorly performing" people had recently received excellent performance reviews? But, hey, maybe it ain't. Hence the questions -- let the truth shine free!
Questions about what exactly?
You are aware that the only "change" to the story occured when a leaked email was found, right? That email was not written by either Rove nor Gonzales. The fact that someone else at the DoJ felt that these attorneys (and we don't know exactly which ones he was referring to) should be let go because of their political views should not be assumed to be "the reason" they were actually fired.
And "performance" is measured in different ways. For example, in a couple cases, there were attorneys who were dragging their feet on investigations with political ramifications. One could argue they did so deliberately because those investigations would hurt Democrats. Isn't *that* partisan? I think so. Yet apparently fireing them for it is wrong, but what they were doing was perfectly ok.
Double standard? I think so. Those attorneys may have recieved good reviews, but that's not the only thing that determines if they're doing their job adequately.
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When folks call for the resignation of Gonzales or Rove, aren't they *also* basing their position on politics? They want them removed because they are republicans doing things that democrats don't like.
Are you including the two Republican senators calling for Gonzales to resign in with this?
Two Republicans from very liberal states. Gee... I wonder why they're jumping on the bandwagon?
They are exactly doing this for the reasons I outlined. Gonzales and Rove are "Republicans who are doing thing that Democrats don't like". Certainly, Republican senators in states with strong Democrat votership are going to feel that and feel that they have to play to the mob to protect their jobs.
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And I for one am getting really tired of Liberals equating anything they don't like or agree with as "evil"...
Words can't express just how that breaks my heart
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It's just annoying to me. It seems like most liberals have replaced morality and ethics with "what is right for my side". I find that disturbing for many reasons.
And yeah. Making a huge issue and demanding an investigation into something for which there is no crime and *cant* be a crime is a bit curious, don't you think?
You argue that no ones saying any law has been broken, but then you insist on an investigation to "let the truth come out". Um... Why? How can you not see that your position is 100% politically oriented. It serves no real legal or ethical purpose. What it does is create the perception of some wrongdoing.
Which is the true political motive here. Sadly, you and most liberals are more then happy to be used in this manner.
Edited, Mar 16th 2007 8:02pm by gbaji