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#1 Mar 15 2007 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=300

Fairly interesting read especially when you consider the effects this voting generation will have on American Policies.


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About half of Gen Nexters say the growing number of immigrants to the U.S. strengthens the country  more than any generation. And they also lead the way in their support for gay marriage and acceptance of interracial dating.


The days of discriminating against someone for something as petty as sexual preference could very well be numbered.

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One-in-five members of Generation Next say they have no religious affiliation or are atheist or agnostic, nearly double the proportion of young people who said that in the late 1980s. And just 4% of Gen Nexters say people in their generation view becoming more spiritual as their most important goal in life.


The Christian Rights hold on this country may very well be loosened as well. That would pave the path for a superhighway for Stem Cell research to go full-throttle.

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Their parents may not always be pleased by what they see on those visits home: About half of Gen Nexters say they have either gotten a tattoo, dyed their hair an untraditional color, or had a body piercing in a place other than their ear lobe. The most popular are tattoos, which decorate the bodies of more than a third of these young adults.


Generation by generation we've as a society have become increasingly less conservative. Perhaps certain taboos will become undone.

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In Pew surveys in 2006, nearly half of young people (48%) identified more with the Democratic Party, while just 35% affiliated more with the GOP. This makes Generation Next the least Republican generation.


The Dems will win big apparently.

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Voter turnout among young people increased significantly between 2000 and 2004, interrupting a decades-long decline in turnout among the young. Nonetheless, most members of Generation Next feel removed from the political process. Only about four-in-ten agree with the statement: "It's my duty as a citizen to always vote."



They are changing voting habits. They are taking their beliefs to the polls. It will be interesting to see how much my generation of the Globalization Age will change this country. /cheer

Edited, Mar 15th 2007 4:42pm by Rimesume
#2 Mar 15 2007 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Only about four-in-ten agree with the statement: "It's my duty as a citizen to always vote."


Only about 1 in 10 actually votes. I figure it's the gay uns.

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#3 Mar 15 2007 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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Only about four-in-ten agree with the statement: "It's my duty as a citizen to always vote."


The other 6 couldn't put down their bongs long enough to bother.
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#4 Mar 15 2007 at 4:53 PM Rating: Good
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Guess it's all in the eye of the beholder. I notice you only listed those things that bode positively from your own viewpoint. I just think alot of your view that this bodes poorly for conservatives is based on your own assumption that "conservative"=="religious right".

From the same report:

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Beyond these social issues, their views defy easy categorization. For example, Generation Next is less critical of government regulation of business but also less critical of business itself. And they are the most likely of any generation to support privatization of the Social Security system.


Bodes well for us fiscal conservatives. Very very well.

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They maintain close contact with parents and family. Roughly eight-in-ten say they talked to their parents in the past day. Nearly three-in-four see their parents at least once a week, and half say they see their parents daily. One reason: money. About three-quarters of Gen Nexters say their parents have helped them financially in the past year.


Again. Bodes well for those of us who see the "family values" issue not as a religious/moral one but a financial support one. People who maintain close contacts with family are less likely to require government assistance later in life. It also doesn't hurt that these kids recognize the value of a good job.

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# Their heroes are close and familiar. When asked to name someone they admire, they are twice as likely as older Americans to name a family member, teacher, or mentor. Moreover, roughly twice as many young people say they most admire an entertainer rather than a political leader.


Yet another one that lands squarely in the "family values" agenda, once you remove the religious connotation.

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They are more comfortable with globalization and new ways of doing work. They are the most likely of any age group to say that automation, the outsourcing of jobs, and the growing number of immigrants have helped and not hurt American workers.


Hmmmm... Not going to get along with traditional liberals very well at all with this position.

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Asked about the life goals of those in their age group, most Gen Nexters say their generation's top goals are fortune and fame. Roughly eight-in-ten say people in their generation think getting rich is either the most important, or second most important, goal in their lives. About half say that becoming famous also is valued highly by fellow Gen Nexters.



This is an odd one, since the way it's worded implies it's one of those "what do you think everyone else in your group thinks", rather then just asking what each thinks themselves and then figuring out the groups position based on the survey itself. I'm always suspicious of that sort of question since it's testing what the perception of a group is rather then what the group actually thinks.


In any case, there are quite a few positions that this survey seems to show are held by so called "nextgens" that many of them will find in opposition to liberal political agendas. I think that politically, this is a lot more of a wash then the article initially implies (and certainly moreso then you did). While more of them may identify themselves as democrats rather then republicans I have a sneaking suspicion that this is based a hell of a lot on a lack of world experience combined with a ton of negative press towards republicans directly related to current issues. Over time, based on what the survey reveals about what they actually care about, I have a feeling that many of them are going to find themselves agreeing more with republican political positions then those of democrats.

At the age range the survey included (18 to 25) a high percentage have been exposed to the surface issues of politics (iraq war, bush admistration, etc) which overwhelming presents a negative view of republicans. Once they get out into the real world and realize that if they actually want the cushy office job, and they want privatized social security, and they want business to succeed so that they can succeed, they're going to realize that dems are opposed to virtually every single one of the issues that matter to them and affect them directly. It's easy to make a broad judgement when comparing democrats as a whole to republicans as a whole. But when you start getting down to specific issues and specific candidates and what those specific choices mean to them, those choices tend to change...

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#5 Mar 15 2007 at 4:57 PM Rating: Good
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They are more comfortable with globalization and new ways of doing work. They are the most likely of any age group to say that automation, the outsourcing of jobs, and the growing number of immigrants have helped and not hurt American workers.



Hmmmm... Not going to get along with traditional liberals very well at all with this position.


Since when did conservatives like immigration?

Edited, Mar 15th 2007 6:57pm by baelnic
#6 Mar 15 2007 at 5:06 PM Rating: Default
You think the Democratic and Republican parties will remain the two primary USA political parties throughout the 21st century? Read some history of political parties which no longer exist. Countries and States already compete for people and capital. WTF did you not notice China going capitalist? Not notice the death of the Soviet Union? Not notice the mass fleeing of millions of Mexican immigrants to get out of a socialist hell hole? Not notice the flat declining tax rates of places like Iceland and Ireland? The Democratic Socialist party is going down, and so too is the Republican Fascist party. I see the Green Party, Libertarian Party, and Fence Party, and 3 way electoral races.
#7 Mar 15 2007 at 5:09 PM Rating: Default
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Since when did conservatives like immigration?


And since when did liberal union workers like immigration?

Free trade always by definition increases wealth for all parties. It's the welfare state that is the problem, not immigrant neighbors.
#8 Mar 15 2007 at 5:12 PM Rating: Default
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"Since when" has arguing over whether the viewpoint is more in line with conservative views or liberal ones been an intelligent use of time?

Political parties/view/doctrines are football teams to far too many people.

Edited, Mar 15th 2007 8:12pm by Allegory
#9 Mar 15 2007 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Guess it's all in the eye of the beholder. I notice you only listed those things that bode positively from your own viewpoint. I just think alot of your view that this bodes poorly for conservatives is based on your own assumption that "conservative"=="religious right".





Smiley: rolleyes The majority of Conservative arguement against issues like Stem Cell and Homosexual rights is based solely on their religion as being "immoral". So here we have people suffering illnesses that could very well be a thing of the past and homosexual discrimination because some book with lots of good stories says its bad. Bottom line lots of people suffer for no good reason.

Among my peers, the majority of them do not see why we are dumping trillions to keep Arabian/Texas oil kings happy but skimp out on R&D for Stem Cell, and educational revenues. We should be dumping money into Stem Cell, not demonizing it for some fabricated moral that a book came up with.
#10 Mar 15 2007 at 5:37 PM Rating: Default
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So here we have people suffering illnesses that could very well be a thing of the past and homosexual discrimination because some book with lots of good stories says its bad. Bottom line lots of people suffer for no good reason.


Uh nope, we have people suffering illnesses because the health care system is an anti-free market. Ever have to wait 3 weeks to get an appointment to get your car's oil changed and have no clue what it will cost?

Yippee, homosexual discrimination will be eradicated the way it should be eradicated, by personal free choices, not politically shoved down anyone's throats through the courts. That's such a small non-issue though compared to the bigger scheme of issues.
#11 Mar 15 2007 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Uh nope, we have people suffering illnesses because the health care system is an anti-free market. Ever have to wait 3 weeks to get an appointment to get your car's oil changed and have no clue what it will cost?

Yippee, homosexual discrimination will be eradicated the way it should be eradicated, by personal free choices, not politically shoved down anyone's throats through the courts. That's such a small non-issue though compared to the bigger scheme of issues.


No I don't wait, I change my own oil. Smiley: wink


Any discrimination in (our) history didn't get eradicated through personal choice, there is nothing supporting that homosexual rights will be granted because "everyone says so". The courts had to get involved with African American rights as well as women's rights, equal opportunity, and even the end of slavery. Which I might add Conservative Christians fought for.

When the HPV vaccine was released, there were people fighting against it, (See Family Research Council) now why on earth would they want to stop a virus that causes thousands to suffer from cervical cancer? You may want to sit down for this one:

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Giving the HPV vaccine to young women could be potentially harmful, because they may see it as a license to engage in premarital sex.


Now that is a good reason if I've ever heard one.Smiley: rolleyes

Gbaji tries to blame media however the Christian Right doesn't need help to look like an ***.

Edited, Mar 15th 2007 7:03pm by Rimesume
#12 Mar 15 2007 at 6:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Their parents may not always be pleased by what they see on those visits home: About half of Gen Nexters say they have either gotten a tattoo, dyed their hair an untraditional color, or had a body piercing in a place other than their ear lobe. The most popular are tattoos, which decorate the bodies of more than a third of these young adults.



Its over, America is finished!
#13 Mar 15 2007 at 6:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I just think alot of your view that this bodes poorly for conservatives is based on your own assumption that "conservative"=="religious right".


No, the Republican Party has done a pretty good job establishing that in the conventional wisdom over the last 20 years. The semantic reality doesn't matter a whit.



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#14 Mar 15 2007 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
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Its over, America is finished!


Nah, our tramps are just properly labled already.

With a stamp.

A "tramp stamp", if you will.
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#15 Mar 16 2007 at 1:07 PM Rating: Good
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They are more comfortable with globalization and new ways of doing work. They are the most likely of any age group to say that automation, the outsourcing of jobs, and the growing number of immigrants have helped and not hurt American workers.



Hmmmm... Not going to get along with traditional liberals very well at all with this position.


Since when did conservatives like immigration?


Er? Conservatives have never had any issues with immigration. We like immigration. Legal immigration. In fact, it's liberals who tend to want to throw the monkey wrench in the process. They are beholden to unions, and unions retain their power by having a smaller workforce that they can control. Legal immigration hurts them because there would be an influx of labor that would challenge the unions.

Now, illegal immigration works great for liberals. That's because the workers can't threaten the unions (since they're there illegally a union can always hold that over them and keep those workers "in line"). Funny how liberals say they're pro-labor, but what they really are is pro-union. Illegal immmigration also works well into the "open borders" ideology, which is actually a whole different kettle of fish, but happens to also match some liberals agenda.


Um... And let's not forget the whole "globalization" and "ok with automating and outsourcing" bits in the paragraph. Things witch liberals are *very* opposed to.

That entire paragraph was pretty much 100% in opposition to a "liberal" viewpoint on labor here in the US. Odd that you thought otherwise...
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#16 Mar 16 2007 at 1:12 PM Rating: Good
A different 'kettle of fish'?
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But did it reaffirm that yanks still can't find China, Mexico or Africa on a fUckin' map?

I love reading those
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Trick question. China is in the country of Africa!
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Trick question. China is in the country of Africa!
Tricker question.

Africa is technically a 'foreign place' and doesn't count as a country like Americaland or Asia.
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Africa is technically a 'foreign place' and AmericUnts don't give a **** about dem foureners.
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Uh nope, we have people suffering illnesses because the health care system is an anti-free market. Ever have to wait 3 weeks to get an appointment to get your car's oil changed and have no clue what it will cost?


So people with say, spinal cord injuries are suffering because of the health care system? Doesn't really matter the wait and cost if they have nothing to give you.
#22 Mar 17 2007 at 1:55 AM Rating: Default
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So people with say, spinal cord injuries are suffering because of the health care system? Doesn't really matter the wait and cost if they have nothing to give you.


Absolutely. Keep in mind every thing you ever do, every decision, every choice, at every moment in time, whether it's as simple as sleep versus game time, or as complicated as investing in a biotech company versus going to Disneyland. Now multiply those decisions by the population. Remember every free trade exchange *by definition* creates profit for both parties to an exchange. Now factor in government regulation interfering with free trade in the health care system and we are talking orders of magnitude in the trillions to the trillionth power lessening wealth and lessening technological innovation.

They have nothing to give people with spinal cord injuries because the incentive to innovate, the freedom to innovate and compete, has been massively harmed by government interference. I'm not joking when I say the cure for cancer would've been found decades ago and cost the price of a bottle of aspirin if it wasn't for political interference. I'm deadly serious when I charge liberals with the crime of being responsible for death and suffering of the sick and injured.

Edit: Bolded for badassness.

Edited, Mar 17th 2007 5:44am by MonxDoT
#23 Mar 17 2007 at 6:06 AM Rating: Default
So people with say, spinal cord injuries are suffering because of the health care system? Doesn't really matter the wait and cost if they have nothing to give you.
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i find this funny as hell. while the wait IS longer in countrys with socialized health care, it is still a far cry better than being POOR in america and needing health care.

only people with money geed better treatment here.

my younger brother fell from a construction job and injured his back and neck. his HMO? ROFL. first they told the emergancy room not to x-ray him because they needed it done by their "specialist". when their "specialist" arived....two days later....they took x-rays of his back in pieces, 4 to be exact.

then, they perscribed treatment for the 2 sections with little to no damage. basically, pain pills. demoral atfirst for the first two weeks, then bare asperin. he was bed ridden. after the third week, he called an ambulance to take him to the emergancy room who did take x-rays this time, because he LIED to them and said he didnt have insurance.

ruptured disk in his lower spine, and a pinched spinel cord in his neck from a ruptured disk there. they recomended surgery....imediatly.

in steps the insurance company with a court order restricting them from working on THEIR patient. off he goes to more of THEIR "specialist. first was a nero-psycoloigest who told him it was all in his head and sent him off to rehab. well, after they carted him out on a streacher from his first session.....then they sent him to a back specialist, who again would only look at the two parts of the back the insurance company gave him x-rays for.

so my brother, bedridden and in pain for over 2 months now, called an ambulance to take him to a place to get an MRI done of his full back. he paid cash. 2500 bucks. then he took them to arbitraition. well, guess who hires the arbitraitior? ROFL. the MRI was ruled inadmissible because it wasnt done by their "specialist". and the arbitraitor sided with the insurance company because, legally, they had done nothing wrong. they didnt deny him treatment. ignore the fact that they wouldnt LOOK at his problem.

in the end, 2 years later, the state declared he was abandoned by his insurance company and did the emergancy surgery that could kill him at any moment on his neck. about 750,000 bucks. they fusned his lower spine.

coarse, after 2 years of munching on "illegal" pain pills cause he couldnt get anything but asparin from his doctors, he is addicted to drugs.

the insurance company setteled for 200,000 bucks. a bargain considering what his medical bills were. the state fined them another 300,000 bucks, but still they are way ahead considering the one surgery on his neck was 750,000 bucks.

my brother? in jail on drug related charges for the last 3 years and will be for the next 4 years.
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THIS is medical care for the poor here in the "free market" medical system of america.

waiting 3 weeks would have been a huge bargain for my brother. might even have changed an accident from an even that destroyed his life to a temporary set back

you people that cry "free market roxors" are just friggin CLUELESS. it does not work with health care.

first hand experience.
#24 Mar 17 2007 at 7:00 AM Rating: Default
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THIS is medical care for the poor here in the "free market" medical system of america.

waiting 3 weeks would have been a huge bargain for my brother. might even have changed an accident from an even that destroyed his life to a temporary set back

you people that cry "free market roxors" are just friggin CLUELESS. it does not work with health care.

first hand experience.


You're a fucking moran if you call that the "free market". Where's the free choice to trade with whom and when and where you want? Stay off your brother's drugs, get checked for second hand dope. A free market is just like consensual sex versus rape dumbass. Your brother's problems are somebody else's fault? That gives you the right to use violence against other human beings who have done nothing wrong to you?

Precisely because people like you use violence is why health care is far more expensive and far less technologically advanced than it would be otherwise. The vast majority 99.9%+ is far less wealthy in terms of medical service precisely because of dumbasses like you with no foresight who argue that compulsion, that slavery, works in health care. It's inefficient on a massive order of magnitude scale beyond your puny little comprehension.
#25 Mar 17 2007 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent
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#26 Mar 17 2007 at 9:55 AM Rating: Default
You're a ******* moran if you call that the "free market". Where's the free choice to trade with whom and when and where you want?
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the only choices you have in this "free market" are 1. pay in cash. something only someone making mid 6 figues could afford, or 2. join an HMO who will do everything in their power to make sure they collect more than they pay.

moran? rofl, dude do an edit real quick on the spelling before you embarass yourself further.
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