I think we touched on this before....Follow

...but WTF, I'm bored and too lazy to look it up. I was listenening to my morning jocks a few days ago, and I happened to tune-in to an all-out war of words between two mothers: One who advocated spanking as a last resort, and one who didn't, and considered it a failure on the part of the parent.

Now I'm a pacifist. I've often said I could never shoot a gun, not even to save my own life because I am personally horrified at the thought of being responsible for ending someone's existence. HOWEVER, I will spank a ***** if she gets on Mommy's last nerve. I was spanked myself, and never felt any adverse effect from it. What's the word around these parts?

Oh, and Ambrya, try to keep it under a paragraph, mmmkay?

If you're hitting your child for some reason other than preventing them from injuring themselves (ie they're about to stick their hand in a fire or whatever) you're just teaching them that if they don't get what they want hitting people is a way to go about it.

WE can debate if that's a valid concept or not, as really hitting people often is a pretty good way to get what you want, but it's not debatable that you're teaching them that.

If you can't win a battle of wills with a three year old, get a cat.

I use spanking as a last resort

What does this even mean? It would seem to translate "when I get tired of parenting" but I'm sure that's not what you mean.

I've only spanked my daughter once in her almost 4 years of life. She kept running out into the street (much farther then all the other kids normally are out in the street to get the candy) at the Halloween parade this last Oct.

A swat on the *** later after multiple warnings and she was back in line.
Never had any issues after that had to resort to a spanking.

I'm pro-asswhippin'.

I can't outwit the cat, either.

Family legend has it that I was spanked once. I don't remember it.

My dad used to spank one of my brothers (who in fairness was something of a hellion, but still). I do remember, clearly, how stressful that was. He'd never cry, but I did.

Waa, waah... cry me a river.

This is like parents who think "If I never let my child play with toy guns and swords, they'll never noodle out that guns and swords are used to hurt people." I've got news for ya, Dr. Phil, children learn that pain is a deterrent with a quickness ether way.

Joph Jr. caught a few spankings in his day. Never a thrashing or anything but a swat when the occassion called for it. Haven't done it in years now since he's been old enough to comprehend concepts such as "no TV for two days".

Joph Jr. caught a few spankings in his day. Never a thrashing or anything but a swat when the occassion called for it. Haven't done it in years now since he's been old enough to comprehend concepts such as "no TV for two days".

Gotcha, only hit them when they're too young to understand why.

Let me write this down...

Can't y'all just be honest and say "it's easier for ME".

If pain is a valid training tool, then why not ramp it up and burn 'em with cigarettes or something? I mean, they should learn more from greater and greater amounts of pain, right?

I can't very well tell Mia not to hit other people when I do it to her.

Pshaw, sure you can! They're going to learn about hypocrisy no matter what anyway, you're just sort of 'vaccinating' them against the shock they might feel if they grew up trusting other people.

Huh? Is grounding an effective tool? So why not send them to their room for six months whenever they fail to hang their coat up, right?

OMG it's Joph Crawford.

NO. WIRE. HANGERS.

Well, yeah. It does. The fact that you can't see why makes me wonder why you're even in this thread.

I give my kids every chance to listen, but unfortunately, like me, they don't always listen. This is rare with my oldest, as she usually listens within the first couple of times I tell her to do something, and I haven't had to spank her in years. Compromise usually works with her, and it's rare to move on to more dramatic solutions, and sending her to her room is the worst that I've had to do in at least a year.

The youngest though, whew, she's just like her mother, and doesn't listen at all. Mostly because up until a month ago, her mother and her were living with grandma and grandpa, and there is no discipline in that house at all. Their 15 year old curses at his parents like no tomorrow. Now that they're with me, the discipline has improved, but she still doesn't like to listen, and usually the threat of a spanking does it for her, but we still have to issue one out every now and then, usually when one of us is cooking, and she doesn't want to get away from the stove like we tell her.

Overall, my girls are well behaved, just every once in a while, they need an attitude adjustment.