to persue it.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/03/14/med.marijuana.ap/index.html
SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- A California woman whose doctor says marijuana is the only medicine keeping her alive is not immune from federal prosecution on drug charges, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday.
The case was brought by Angel Raich, an Oakland mother of two who suffers from scoliosis, a brain tumor, chronic nausea and other ailments. On her doctor's advice, she eats or smokes marijuana every couple of hours to ease her pain and bolster a nonexistent appetite as conventional drugs did not work.
The Supreme Court ruled against Raich two years ago, saying that medical marijuana users and their suppliers could be prosecuted for breaching federal drug laws even if they lived in a state such as California where medical pot is legal.
Because of that ruling, the issue before the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals was narrowed to the so-called right to life theory: that marijuana should be allowed if it is the only viable option to keep a patient alive.
Raich, 41, began sobbing when she was told of the decision and said she would continue using the drug.
"I'm sure not going to let them kill me," she said. "Oh my God."
Yeah, stupid pointless law and all that, but...
Pot is the only thing keeping her alive??
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I'm just wondering why they mentioned scoliosis before a brain tumor.
And whatever happened to that wonderful entity known as states' rights? I thought that was a solid plank in the conservative platform?
And whatever happened to that wonderful entity known as states' rights? I thought that was a solid plank in the conservative platform?
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Pot is the only thing keeping her alive??
...in the future intravenous lines and PICCs will be replaced by hookahs.
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I'm pretty sure pot is the only reason Debalic is still breathing.
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So you mean now I've got this brain-tumor and it's totally useless? I feel jipped.
Samira wrote:
And whatever happened to that wonderful entity known as states' rights? I thought that was a solid plank in the conservative platform?
I was just thinking that myself. But then again, take something like the legal limit for Alcohol. The States are free to set it at any limit they like but the Fed Gov says "You either set it to what we say or that check you want for Roads and Education and so on, will be "lost" in the mail."
Blackmail at its finest.
Guess when my time comes, I'll just smoke a joint and live forever!
Smasharoo wrote:
Pot is the only thing keeping her alive??
Atomicflea wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
Pot is the only thing keeping her alive??
I think I might die without chocolate. What is life when the soul dies Flea?
I'm starting to sound like hewhoshallnotbenamed.
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"oh no I can't smoke pot in the last few months of my life, I am forced to have intravenous morphine instead, woe is me."
Nexa wrote:
What is life when the soul dies Flea?
fhrugby the Sly wrote:
"oh no I can't smoke pot in the last few months of my life, I am forced to have intravenous morphine instead, woe is me."
fhrugby the Sly wrote:
"oh no I can't smoke pot in the last few months of my life, I am forced to have intravenous morphine instead, woe is me."
This just in: morphine does not enhance the appetite.
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In all likelihood the most efficient route to legalize pot is by changing its classification. Currently, it is a schedule I drug and finding any viable medical application - which by the way is basically unquestioned - will move it to schedule...what? III or IV?
And so only by actually claiming there is no possible medical application can we keep it under control.
As for states rights, there was a case about this recently before the supreme court - I think California vs. US Federal government. California lost, badly. The supreme court basically believes the feds have the right to regulate.
And so only by actually claiming there is no possible medical application can we keep it under control.
As for states rights, there was a case about this recently before the supreme court - I think California vs. US Federal government. California lost, badly. The supreme court basically believes the feds have the right to regulate.
This issue is stupidly frustrating.
Why, oh why,spells yoy is pot still not legal for medicinal purpose?
Anyone?
Why, oh why,
Anyone?
And so only by actually claiming there is no possible medical application can we keep it under control.
I think it's largely more that you can't grow Ambien in your backyard.
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bodhisattva wrote:
I'm pretty sure pot is the only reason Debalic is still breathing.
You got that right. If it wasn't for the munchies, I'd be wasting away. As it is I top out at a buck and a quarter. Nonexistent appetite, indeed.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Monsieur RedPhoenixxx wrote:
This issue is stupidly frustrating.
Why, oh why,spells yoy is pot still not legal for medicinal purpose?
Anyone?
Why, oh why,
Anyone?
Silly Frenchman.
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Samira wrote:
Silly Frenchman.
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you too!Smasharoo wrote:
And so only by actually claiming there is no possible medical application can we keep it under control.
I think it's largely more that you can't grow Ambien in your backyard.
Bingo.
Smasharoo wrote:
And so only by actually claiming there is no possible medical application can we keep it under control.
I think it's largely more that you can't grow Ambien in your backyard.
And largely that the majority of medical benefits from marijuana are placebo effects rather then real. The fact that this woman is arguing that the marijuana is the only thing keeping her alive is a good testiment to this. Clearly, it's not since even the most ardent supporter of medical marijuana would not argue that it'll actually add a single day to the life of a cancer patient.
It relieves symptoms of some illnesses. But that's because it's a pretty decent depressant, not because it's got any other magical medicinal properties.
Don't get me wrong. I think that marijuana should be legalized for recreational use. I don't find that it's any more dangerous or harmful then alchohol (and arguably less so). I just think that the medical approach is flawed on many many levels. I understand people want to legalize marijuana, but why not stick to doing so on its merits (or lack of real consequences) rather then using this around the back approach?
Edited, Mar 15th 2007 4:21pm by gbaji
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
What are the biggest industries in America?
Of course, those industries NEVER affect policymaking in Washington because our government is honest and pure!
Of course, those industries NEVER affect policymaking in Washington because our government is honest and pure!
gbaji wrote:
And largely that the majority of medical benefits from marijuana are placebo effects rather then real. The fact that this woman is arguing that the marijuana is the only thing keeping her alive is a good testiment to this. Clearly, it's not since even the most ardent supporter of medical marijuana would not argue that it'll actually add a single day to the life of a cancer patient.
Well, we're talking about pain relief and stimulating appetite. Relatively difficult to quantify. However, you are widely viewed as just wrong. Although this has never stopped you before.
If she stops eating she will die sooner. It really doesn't take much to string these facts together.
Reality, gbaji, reality is a beautiful thing. I know it is complex and its just so much easier to keep spouting off what you want to be true rather then bothering to find out what is true. Ultimately you will find what you are doing has few rewards.
gbaji wrote:
And largely that the majority of medical benefits from marijuana are placebo effects rather then real. The fact that this woman is arguing that the marijuana is the only thing keeping her alive is a good testiment to this. Clearly, it's not since even the most ardent supporter of medical marijuana would not argue that it'll actually add a single day to the life of a cancer patient.
Pain relievers are largely placebos and therefore invalid as medicine.
Got it.
Actually, who says the placebo effect is invalid? If it gets the job done, who the hell cares whether the source of the solution was external or internal?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
gbaji wrote:
The fact that this woman is arguing that the marijuana is the only thing keeping her alive is a good testiment to this.
1. It stimulates appettite. It doesn't take a scientist to find that out.
2. It relieves pain.
Surely, that's enough of a medicinal benefit for someone who:
1. Has lost their appettite.
2. Has pain.
Monsieur RedPhoenixxx wrote:
gbaji wrote:
The fact that this woman is arguing that the marijuana is the only thing keeping her alive is a good testiment to this.
1. It stimulates appetite. It doesn't take a scientist to find that out.
2. It relieves pain.
Surely, that's enough of a medicinal benefit for someone who:
1. Has lost their appetite.
2. Has pain.
There are prescription drugs for these things. Sometimes they don't work. Sometimes they work for a while but either stop working or don't work for some people.
They also have a hefty profit attached for some company.
Not only is pot effective, its been tested on people over years of prolonged use (and abuse) and, to be honest, the side effects are nowhere near what one sees in prolonged use of the competitors.
Smash nailed it on the head. Were it patentable, it would have been done. And sold at great profit.
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