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So I was thinking, with all the jail over crowding, why doesn't the penal system include an option for inmates to spend their sentence serving for the armed forces? Specifically, inmates would get to choose one or the other. If they chose to serve, they would still have out-side communication restrictions and would be fitted with a GPS device and would be locked in the MP jail when not in training or on a mission. I haven't completely thought it through, but I thought it might make interesting debate material. If the process was in place to ensure no danger of escape, etc. is posed, could this fly as a viable option? Apparently it has been done before elsewhere, so why not again?
I didn't know the Dirty Dozen was on last night?
Because it would cost the US prison industry millions.
The private sector in the country that imprisons the highest percentage of it's population at any one time isn't going to stand for that sort of thing.
Also, it would erode the 'they're all heros!!' jingoism so important to maintaining the military industrial complex in the US.
The private sector in the country that imprisons the highest percentage of it's population at any one time isn't going to stand for that sort of thing.
Also, it would erode the 'they're all heros!!' jingoism so important to maintaining the military industrial complex in the US.
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That only worked in the past because joining the British Army was almost a death sentence anyway. Die in prison, or likely die in war, but get paid miniscule amounts of money doing so. Besdies, being in the military today, atleast Canadian, is almost like being on a paid vacation. Can't give push ups as punishment anymore, instead they have to write lines like back in grade school.
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An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
I don't know...
Sending rapists into an area devistated by war in a position where they have to deal with widows...don't think it'd work.
I'd have no problem having them fixing roads etc though. Problem is it actually costs more in administration to take them out of jail and put them to work than it does to hire a contractor to do the work for you. Government isn't exactly the pinnacle of efficiency.
Sending rapists into an area devistated by war in a position where they have to deal with widows...don't think it'd work.
I'd have no problem having them fixing roads etc though. Problem is it actually costs more in administration to take them out of jail and put them to work than it does to hire a contractor to do the work for you. Government isn't exactly the pinnacle of efficiency.
I always thought it would be interesting if a program could be set up trading an amount of prison time for volunteering for medical studies. Of course it would require a sort of relaxing of some of the ethics standards that apply to the tests, but I see some benefits.
1) We say someone in prison is "repaying their debt to society" but really they are sponging off of society. The sooner they are out of prison the sooner our tax dollars aren't supporting them.
2) Since medical studies generally need controlled conditions, and I imagine that inmates taking drugs would fall outside of the qualifications for those conditions, it may be a good incentive for inmates to clean-up prior to reentering society.
3) Getting to human tests quicker means that either drugs that work get to market quicker or drugs that don't are dismissed quicker. Getting functional drugs to the public sooner would mean that the inmates are actually doing something to "repay their debt to society".
4) Now the amount of time off for participation in such studies should be small. Probably no more than 6 months to a year off per study. Also perpetrators of certain crimes like murder should be ineligible. Since prison overcrowding is getting inmates early releases anyway, I think it be good to clear up a little room so that the more heinous criminals have to serve their time.
Just a thought anyway.
1) We say someone in prison is "repaying their debt to society" but really they are sponging off of society. The sooner they are out of prison the sooner our tax dollars aren't supporting them.
2) Since medical studies generally need controlled conditions, and I imagine that inmates taking drugs would fall outside of the qualifications for those conditions, it may be a good incentive for inmates to clean-up prior to reentering society.
3) Getting to human tests quicker means that either drugs that work get to market quicker or drugs that don't are dismissed quicker. Getting functional drugs to the public sooner would mean that the inmates are actually doing something to "repay their debt to society".
4) Now the amount of time off for participation in such studies should be small. Probably no more than 6 months to a year off per study. Also perpetrators of certain crimes like murder should be ineligible. Since prison overcrowding is getting inmates early releases anyway, I think it be good to clear up a little room so that the more heinous criminals have to serve their time.
Just a thought anyway.
Ridana wrote:
I always thought it would be interesting if a program could be set up trading an amount of prison time for volunteering for medical studies. Of course it would require a sort of relaxing of some of the ethics standards that apply to the tests, but I see some benefits.
1) We say someone in prison is "repaying their debt to society" but really they are sponging off of society. The sooner they are out of prison the sooner our tax dollars aren't supporting them.
2) Since medical studies generally need controlled conditions, and I imagine that inmates taking drugs would fall outside of the qualifications for those conditions, it may be a good incentive for inmates to clean-up prior to reentering society.
3) Getting to human tests quicker means that either drugs that work get to market quicker or drugs that don't are dismissed quicker. Getting functional drugs to the public sooner would mean that the inmates are actually doing something to "repay their debt to society".
4) Now the amount of time off for participation in such studies should be small. Probably no more than 6 months to a year off per study. Also perpetrators of certain crimes like murder should be ineligible. Since prison overcrowding is getting inmates early releases anyway, I think it be good to clear up a little room so that the more heinous criminals have to serve their time.
Just a thought anyway.
1) We say someone in prison is "repaying their debt to society" but really they are sponging off of society. The sooner they are out of prison the sooner our tax dollars aren't supporting them.
2) Since medical studies generally need controlled conditions, and I imagine that inmates taking drugs would fall outside of the qualifications for those conditions, it may be a good incentive for inmates to clean-up prior to reentering society.
3) Getting to human tests quicker means that either drugs that work get to market quicker or drugs that don't are dismissed quicker. Getting functional drugs to the public sooner would mean that the inmates are actually doing something to "repay their debt to society".
4) Now the amount of time off for participation in such studies should be small. Probably no more than 6 months to a year off per study. Also perpetrators of certain crimes like murder should be ineligible. Since prison overcrowding is getting inmates early releases anyway, I think it be good to clear up a little room so that the more heinous criminals have to serve their time.
Just a thought anyway.
We need another holocaust. A lot of anatomy and medical break throughs were a result of that.
You know what this country has too many of? Big rocks. We need to find a way where prisoners could convert them into smaller rocks.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
You know what this country has too many of? Big rocks. We need to find a way where prisoners could convert them into smaller rocks.
Sure, that's all well and good until you flood the rock processing market with cheap labor. Then you have all these gigantic rock crushing sociopaths wandering the streets eying babies heads.
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Elderon wrote:
So I was thinking, with all the jail over crowding, why doesn't the penal system include an option for inmates to spend their sentence serving for the armed forces?
Guns, schmuns. It's not as though we're lacking for prison inmates to conscript. I say we send 'em out with axes.
Edited, Mar 8th 2007 12:43pm by Jophiel
Edited, Mar 8th 2007 12:43pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Atomicflea wrote:
Elderon wrote:
So I was thinking, with all the jail over crowding, why doesn't the penal system include an option for inmates to spend their sentence serving for the armed forces?
I'd honestly prefer televised 'thunderdome' style gladiator matches for all those with life sentences or on death row. Or hell, anyone that wants to participate. Win 10 matches you go free with $1 mil.
Imagine the PPV revenues!
Imagine the PPV revenues!
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Smasharoo wrote:
I'd honestly prefer televised 'thunderdome' style gladiator matches for all those with life sentences or on death row. Or hell, anyone that wants to participate. Win 10 matches you go free with $1 mil.
Imagine the PPV revenues!
Imagine the PPV revenues!
Ahem.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
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― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Ahem.
Nexa
Pfft, not even vaguely similar. Thunderdome is much more intruding than Running Man Game Show. Thunderdome has bungee chords.
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Smasharoo wrote:
Pfft, not even vaguely similar. Thunderdome is much more intruding than Running Man Game Show. Thunderdome has bungee chords.
Running Man has two governors.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
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― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Running Man has two governors.
Well, we could start with Edwin Edwards and Bob Taft as the first competitors.
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You Americans need to think laterally like we Brits.
Follow our example, but you'll need to find your own Australia
Follow our example, but you'll need to find your own Australia
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Follow our example, but you'll need to find your own Australia
We refer to it as "Puerto Rico"
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Smasharoo wrote:
Running Man has two governors.
Well, we could start with Edwin Edwards and Bob Taft as the first competitors.
Elderon wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
Running Man has two governors.
Well, we could start with Edwin Edwards and Bob Taft as the first competitors.
You're a little slow today, aintcha hon? It's cause someone mentioned Steak and ******* Day, I understand.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
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― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
Why not Ahnold? He has experience with Running man and being governor!
He's at the top of the list for "skiing man"
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Smasharoo wrote:
Ahem.
Nexa
Pfft, not even vaguely similar. Thunderdome is much more intruding than Running Man Game Show. Thunderdome has bungee chords.
Nexa
Pfft, not even vaguely similar. Thunderdome is much more intruding than Running Man Game Show. Thunderdome has bungee chords.
Besides, the movie was utter crap compared to the book (as usual).
Anyways, why constrain this practice to just inmates? An ex-AF buddy of mine passed this along to me...
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A Democrat's solution..........
Bush wants us to cut the amount of gas we use.
The best way to stop using so much gas is to deport 11 million illegal immigrants!
That would be 11 million less people using our gas. The price of gas would come down.
Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the border. When they catch an illegal immigrant crossing the border, hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Iraq . Tell him if he wants to come to America then he must serve a tour in the military. Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it. After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he defended this country. He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal patriot.
This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves. If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo.
Problem solved.
Bush wants us to cut the amount of gas we use.
The best way to stop using so much gas is to deport 11 million illegal immigrants!
That would be 11 million less people using our gas. The price of gas would come down.
Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the border. When they catch an illegal immigrant crossing the border, hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Iraq . Tell him if he wants to come to America then he must serve a tour in the military. Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it. After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he defended this country. He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal patriot.
This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves. If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo.
Problem solved.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
"legal patriot"?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Besides, the movie was utter crap compared to the book (as usual).
I'll get no end of **** for this from Nexa, but The Shining movie is much better than the book, and it's not close.
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Smasharoo wrote:
Besides, the movie was utter crap compared to the book (as usual).
I'll get no end of sh*t for this from Nexa, but The Shining movie is much better than the book, and it's not close.
One of the shining exceptions (pun most likely intended) to the rule. Got nothing but love for Scatman Crothers!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
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