Barkingturtle wrote:
No, I have never been tested and I agree with Smash's sentiment on this one. Condoms are for sissies.
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You're safe due to the penchant for dead hookers and farm animals. You should worry more about rabies and maggot dick.
The One and Only Katie wrote:
Elderon wrote:
The One and Only Katie wrote:
Toothless mustached multi-chinned STD ridden *****?
As my favorite night shirt says, "Buy me chocolate!".
Smasharoo wrote:
1/3 is a preposterous number and nothing close to accurate.
Trichomoniasis?
Edit b/c I left out HIV.
Edited, Mar 8th 2007 12:48pm by Atomicflea
Might as well! Hell after the surgery last Friday I look like a friggin balloon. Swelling is finally going down enough I can wear my jeans comfortabley.
And yet, people who had one-night stands with HIV-positive people have been infected. Nurses who scratch themselves lightly with HIV-infected needles get it. They're in the minority, sure, but I bet they think it sucks balls, anyhow. Not that a test would help these people at this stage, but I don't see where further spreading the myth that testing isn't really does, either.
It's not 'necessary'. What do you want me to do? Is it required that I pretend that it is because a tiny percentage of people will benefit from it? I'm not telling people not to get tested, I'm just not willing to frighten people into thinking they 'have' to get tested if they have unprotected sex with someone once. Not even that, but if they have protected sex wearing a condom with someone, once. Also, since you can't be with your partner 24 hours a day, you should probably get a new test each time you have sex with your committed monogamous parter, because WHO KNOWS!!! They might be ******* Hatian hemophiliac gay hustlers who just got back from Sub Saharan Africa on their lunch break.
I don't tell 18 year olds to have prostate exams, even though some of them will have prostate cancer. It's just a matter of risk. If getting tested makes you feel better, go for it. Just accept the reality that risk is minimal in many situations, and the primary benefit of being tested is psychological. There's nothing wrong with doing things because they make you feel relieved. There's something wrong with setting a standard that it's ok to greatly exaggerate risk if then ends are beneficial to society. Because it's not.
Just as it's not ok to greatly exaggerate the threat of county you want to invade if you think the ends are good for the country, or to greatly exaggerate the perceived benefits of children having married hetro parents because you feel the end of outlawing gay marrige is worth it, etc. It's just intellectually dishonest.
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This thread is making me randy.
Oh yeah? CDC has it on their website. You're saying they have no idea what they are talking about?
Really, I can't seem to find it. Could you link the page for me, please?
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******** Smash. Find articles to back up your claims bud. I've linked mine, where are yours? Just your personal beliefs? Well then it must be true that you are closeted pig ******.
The One and Only Katie wrote:
Well then it must be true that you are closeted pig @#%^er.
Smasharoo wrote:
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I don't tell 18 year olds to have prostate exams, even though some of them will have prostate cancer. It's just a matter of risk. If getting tested makes you feel better, go for it. Just accept the reality that risk is minimal in many situations, and the primary benefit of being tested is psychological. There's nothing wrong with doing things because they make you feel relieved. There's something wrong with setting a standard that it's ok to greatly exaggerate risk if then ends are beneficial to society. Because it's not.
Just as it's not ok to greatly exaggerate the threat of county you want to invade if you think the ends are good for the country, or to greatly exaggerate the perceived benefits of children having married hetro parents because you feel the end of outlawing gay marrige is worth it, etc. It's just intellectually dishonest.
I don't tell 18 year olds to have prostate exams, even though some of them will have prostate cancer. It's just a matter of risk. If getting tested makes you feel better, go for it. Just accept the reality that risk is minimal in many situations, and the primary benefit of being tested is psychological. There's nothing wrong with doing things because they make you feel relieved. There's something wrong with setting a standard that it's ok to greatly exaggerate risk if then ends are beneficial to society. Because it's not.
Just as it's not ok to greatly exaggerate the threat of county you want to invade if you think the ends are good for the country, or to greatly exaggerate the perceived benefits of children having married hetro parents because you feel the end of outlawing gay marrige is worth it, etc. It's just intellectually dishonest.
While your examples above have a clear downside, I'm not seeing a big downside to getting HIV testing done even if you're not in a high risk category. Perhaps I'm missing something.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
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― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
1 in 4 alone have HPV
No, they don't.
Again, blindly stating statistics without actually examining them helps nothing. Not to mention the minor point that about 1 in 50 strains of HPV actually has any adverse effects at all.
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Smasharoo wrote:
It's not 'necessary'. What do you want me to do? Is it required that I pretend that it is because a tiny percentage of people will benefit from it?
Nexa wrote:
Perhaps I'm missing something.
Nexa
Nexa
While your examples above have a clear downside, I'm not seeing a big downside to getting HIV testing done even if you're not in a high risk category. Perhaps I'm missing something.
That it doesn't matter if there's a downside or not? Lying to people and greatly inflating risk to get them to do something you want them to do is ethically wrong. Telling children that monsters will eat them if they don't eat their peas isn't ok because eating peas is good for them. Even if not eating peas is harmless.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Elderon wrote:
Nexa wrote:
Perhaps I'm missing something.
Nexa
Nexa
I get tested for free while the hookers make the beer run.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
I'm simply pointing out that, while nothing will turn the tide of infection or force a partner to be true, it's always best to make an informed choice. To me, closing your eyes and saying "my risk is so small I'll never get it" is putting blinders on, and not an attitude I feel helps diminish the spread of infection.
You have me all wrong. I'm not saying people shouldn't get tested, I'm saying encouraging them to using language that implies the risk of infection is magnitudes higher than it actually is is a poor way to go about making the case.
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Smasharoo wrote:
1 in 4 alone have HPV
No, they don't.
Fine, only one I could find again on CDC was about gay men and it was 1 in 3. Here is ASHA stating that 1 in 4 will have an STD.
Even though I'm in a low risk group, i get check every year or two for STD's. Much as I may want to trust my sexual partner, I know that it's better to both of us to get tested yearly, then find out the trust wasn't warrented.
I use to tell my ex if the tests he had done twice a year while in the navy ever comes back possitive, he was history. Cheat on me and you have to go at least one year with 2 HIV negative tests, before you ever think of having sex with me again.
I use to tell my ex if the tests he had done twice a year while in the navy ever comes back possitive, he was history. Cheat on me and you have to go at least one year with 2 HIV negative tests, before you ever think of having sex with me again.
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Smasharoo wrote:
Lying to people and greatly inflating risk to get them to do something you want them to do is ethically wrong. Telling children that monsters will eat them if they don't eat their peas isn't ok because eating peas is good for them. Even if not eating peas is harmless.
Well, I wouldn't lie to Hannah to get her to eat her peas. I do plan on telling her that she needs to get a shot because it will keep her from getting sick, even though the odds of her getting whooping cough are incredibly small. I also advocate for the kids on my college campus to get HIV testing done, even though the number who actually have it will be incredibly small. Those that do have it, however, will likely be suprised, and if it keeps them from spreading it to others without knowing it than great. I don't lie about the level of risk, but I don't see why everyone shouldn't get tested when it costs nothing but a very small amount of time.
Nexa
“It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But a half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.â€
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
― Neil Gaiman, The Sandman, Vol. 9: The Kindly Ones
No, they do.
Based on what? CDC says 20 million.
How does that possibly equate to 1 in 4?
Or do you mean 'are likely to be infected at some point in their lifetime'?
Because it's a radically different statistic. '1 in 4 people will get in car accidents today' is a lot different than '1 in 4 people will be in car accidents in their lifetime'
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Smasharoo wrote:
Telling children that monsters will eat them if they don't eat their peas isn't ok
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
It's still OK to make up stories like "They just passed a law that kids who don't eat their peas have to go to jail", right?
If not, I'll just go with "Eat your peas, or I'm putting your dog to sleep!"
That'll get 'em.
If not, I'll just go with "Eat your peas, or I'm putting your dog to sleep!"
That'll get 'em.
I also advocate for the kids on my college campus to get HIV testing done, even though the number who actually have it will be incredibly small. Those that do have it, however, will likely be suprised, and if it keeps them from spreading it to others without knowing it than great. I don't lie about the level of risk, but I don't see why everyone shouldn't get tested when it costs nothing but a very small amount of time.
Me either. We agree. I have a problem with people inflating risk to the point that it becomes generally accepted as true when it's not.
Fine, only one I could find again on CDC was about gay men and it was 1 in 3. Here is ASHA stating that 1 in 4 will have an STD.
This is exactly my point. The corrupting of statistics about a specific high risk group or the translation of projections into statistics. There's no need to do it. It's just the dumbing down of actual problems to the point where people advocating against a position can use the fact that the numbers are dead wrong with bias all one way to make equally flawed arguments for the other side.
Allowing the debate to be equivocated when you're right is imbecilic and serves no purpose. You wear safety belts in cars because it's likely you'll be injured less in an accident. You don't try to convince people to wear safety belts in cars because 'someone not wearing a safety belt dies in a car acciedent every 8 seconds OMG!!'
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
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