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#102 Mar 11 2007 at 5:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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I went to see a graphic novel come to life, not a fracking history lesson.
Quasi-cartoons based on comic books based on movies from the 60's based on ancient events may not be historically accurate?

Lawd al-MIGHTY!!! I knew this movie threw history out the window for the sake of entertainment the moment I saw the word "million". I don't think any modern scholar believes that there was a mil+ Persians involved at Thermopylae.

Edited, Mar 11th 2007 6:52pm by Jophiel
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#103 Mar 11 2007 at 6:11 PM Rating: Good
I have no desire to see this movie.

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I mean, hell the Spartan Queen is presented as a strong woman throughout the film.


Uh-huh. In my lexicon, a "strong woman" doesn't bargain with her body or "allow" herself to be raped.


On second thought, I had no desire to see this movie.
#104 Mar 11 2007 at 6:51 PM Rating: Good
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Went and watched it with the guys, was alright. The commercials pretty much contain all the awesome parts of the movie though. Overall probably the most solid sword, sandals & bewbs type flick since Conan the Barbarian. I wouldn't try to put it in the same category as Gladiator.

Less 'cartoony' than Sin City. There were no dragons Joph. My only real complaint was Xerxes, his voice threw me off. Could have been a better villain.

It definitely didn't suck. It wasn't mediocre. However it wasn't as kick *** as I hoped.
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#105 Mar 11 2007 at 8:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Pikko Pots wrote:
I went to see a graphic novel come to life, not a fracking history lesson.
Quasi-cartoons based on comic books based on movies from the 60's based on ancient events may not be historically accurate?


Eh? I didn't mean that I felt like I was watching a history lesson.
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#106 Mar 11 2007 at 8:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Dunno if Gaiman would ever go for it, but one can hope..


A year ago I'd have said that was a terrible idea. After seeing Mirrormask, though, if McKean could direct it I'd have high hopes.


Holy %*&$!!!

McKean is doing movies now?!?!?!

He's one of my favorite artist. I'll definitely have to check out Mirrormask.
#107 Mar 11 2007 at 8:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Eh? I didn't mean that I felt like I was watching a history lesson.
No, I was laughing more at those who'd ***** about the inaccuracies.
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There were no dragons Joph
My turn: "Eh?"

Edited, Mar 11th 2007 9:37pm by Jophiel
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#108 Mar 11 2007 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I liked it for what it was, a graphic novel brought onto the big screen. That's exactly what it is. I wasn't expecting anything different.
#109 Mar 12 2007 at 4:42 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Bhodi wrote:
There were no dragons Joph
My turn: "Eh?"

Edited, Mar 11th 2007 9:37pm by Jophiel


I read someone stating that they thought they saw a dragon in the trailer, for some reason I thought it was you. However upon rereading my 300 thread it wasnt you and it wasnt there so maybe I'll just blame it on the time change and say it was someone else on one of the other forums I post on!
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#110 Mar 12 2007 at 6:34 AM Rating: Good
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I wanted to go see it because I heart the artsy looking-flicks, but when Joph told me there was a lot of gore, I didn't care for it anymore. I might watch it on cable someday.
#111 Mar 12 2007 at 7:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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"An Inconvenient Truth" had a lot of Gore and you watched that!


Heeeyyy-Oh!
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#112 Mar 12 2007 at 8:27 AM Rating: Good
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"An Inconvenient Truth" had a lot of Gore and you watched that!


Heeeyyy-Oh!
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#114 Mar 12 2007 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I think I'm one of the few million that still haven't seen this...but I do want to. Huge fan of the leads in this one, combined with the style of the film, this should be a winner for "cool".
#115 Mar 12 2007 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
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While I understand that the film is based on the graphic novel, and I'm generally all for that sort of stuff (expecially Frank Miller's stuff), I still get kind of an "Hrrrmmm" feeling when I see 300 (Ok. commercials for it, since I haven't actually seen it yet).

I have no problem with the style in principle. I just have this sort of rule about films. If you're writing something in an "over the top" style, it really should be an original work of fiction. Doing so with an actual historic event just tends to turn me off. I loved Sin City. Again though, that was an original work. The same thing just does not work for me as a film when it's about a real historical event.

Doesn't mean it's not a great looking film. I just think that it would have been just as great looking of a film if they'd decided to put it in a completely different setting, with different people in a different fictional location fighting against different foes. I guess I just don't understand why one feels they have to take the Battle of Thermopolae, change some major aspects of it, add demon creatues and other silly things, and otherwise present it in an overblown fashion.

It's that blending of history and fiction that just doesn't work for me. You want to tell a crazy story with monsters and magic and ridiculously overdone action sequences, why on earth not use just a tiny bit more imagination and actually make up your own setting? By placing it in a real historical context, you actually kinda cheapen the actual events and I don't even want to think about the kids who'll grow up thinking that the ancient persians really did have mutants fighting in their armies or something...
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#116 Mar 12 2007 at 1:07 PM Rating: Good
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WMy only real complaint was Xerxes, his voice threw me off. Could have been a better villain.


Translation:

"His part wasn't voiced by a fading English Shahakespeherian Actorrr"

Everyone knows that in Hollywood, all baddies sound like Alan Rickman after he's chain smoked 50 cigarettes and gargled with Malt Whisky
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#117 Mar 12 2007 at 1:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Did 300 have demon-y thingies? I saw a really angry looking rhino in the previews but that's about it for the supernatural.
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#118 Mar 12 2007 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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WMy only real complaint was Xerxes, his voice threw me off. Could have been a better villain.


Translation:

"His part wasn't voiced by a fading English Shahakespeherian Actorrr"

Everyone knows that in Hollywood, all baddies sound like Alan Rickman after he's chain smoked 50 cigarettes and gargled with Malt Whisky


I just don't expect a 8 foot tall persian Sagat to sound like the blackest of black man doing his deepest voice. I understand that for a God-king they might want to give the voice an otherworldly prescence, however in this case (for me at least) it just came off as bad dubbing.

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#119 Mar 12 2007 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
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Saw it on Saturday with the misses and even she enjoyed it.

I absolutely loved it. Pure entertainment.

Xerxes:Sagat comparison is spot on too heh, never thought about that. IIRC they even had a Vega in there.
#120 Mar 12 2007 at 1:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Did 300 have demon-y thingies? I saw a really angry looking rhino in the previews but that's about it for the supernatural.


No.

The animals; rhino and elefunts, were a little giant sized, but it wasn't a big deal. There were no demon things or as I heard it, orcs. LOL. There was a hunchback with extreme deformities but he was still human. There was also another human that was pretty strong and crazy, he was kinda of big. But both of those characters are human. Think of him as sort of a blood crazed Andre the Giant. They weren't mutants or orcs or demon-y thingies. I guess some would consider the 'immortals' as demon-y thingies, but they weren't immortal either, 'We'll put their name to the test'. They were all human, some were deformed or scarred. I didn't consider anything to be demon-y thingies, or orcs.
#121 Mar 12 2007 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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Oh yeah, the circus freak orgy. Worth seeing for that alone. Almost enough to see why McCartney macked up Heather Mills.
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#122 Mar 12 2007 at 1:37 PM Rating: Decent
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It's that blending of history and fiction that just doesn't work for me.


Odd, because it works for you in any sort of political debate.

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#124 Mar 12 2007 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
The whole, "The story was told over the top so I don't want to see it," thing, while a valid point, is missing one thing.

The whole movie is a guy telling a story to a bunch of soldiers to get them psyched up. So yes, there was quite a bit of exaggeration. There was a guy with swords for hands. There was a Mortal-Kombat-esque Baraka looking guy with a big axe. There were elephants, there was a Rhino. The Immortals looked like zombies when their masks came off. It was way over the top.

It was also poignant at times. I'm not saying it was deep or anything, don't get me wrong. But it really does get you rooting for Sparta.

But yeah, there was a lot of blood and gore. Smiley: grin
#125 Mar 12 2007 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh yeah, the asian transexuals. Worth seeing for that alone.





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There was a guy with swords for hands. There was a Mortal-Kombat-esque Baraka looking guy with a big axe.


Oh yeah, I forgot about that guy. I would have liked to see him in battle.
#126 Mar 12 2007 at 2:20 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Did 300 have demon-y thingies? I saw a really angry looking rhino in the previews but that's about it for the supernatural.


Well. More like mutant humans. While I'll admit to having only watched the previews and talked to a couple friends who saw it, my understanding is that there are a number of people in the film who are presented in a pretty "superhuman" manner. More monsterous then human.

Dunno. It's not like I have a direct aversion to having mutant humans running around slaughtering folks in a film. I just get turned off when the film is based on a real historical event.
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