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#52REDACTED, Posted: Mar 09 2007 at 6:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 300get
#53 Mar 09 2007 at 6:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Got 9:45pm tickets, hope it doesn't suck.
#54REDACTED, Posted: Mar 09 2007 at 6:42 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You people are pathetic. Listen to yourselfs. It's just another movie.
#55 Mar 09 2007 at 8:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Woot!!! Gerard Butler's ***?? I'm so there with a grin on my face!
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#56 Mar 09 2007 at 10:33 AM Rating: Good
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Im trying to get a guys night to check this out at the IMAX then head out for drinks in San Fran afterward but Fandango doesnt have showtimes listed for next weekend yet. If i dont get showtimes befor next monday, i'll set it up for the regular showing next weekend. Then off to play Pool and drink pitchers of beer.
#57 Mar 09 2007 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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The IMAX in Manhattan, that is showing 300, is already sold out thru Monday. I am thinking of going to the one in New Rochelle instead, it still has tickets available and it is only a 30 minute drive north.

Wiki
has a nice article describing the actual historical events.

A couple of quotes listed in that article:

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Xerxes asked him (Leonidas) more forcefully to surrender their arms. To this Leonidas gave his noted answer: "Come take them". This quote has been repeated by many later generals and politicians in order to express an army's or nation's determination to not surrender without a battle.


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a Spartan soldier, was informed that Persian arrows would be so numerous as "to blot out the sun", he remarked with characteristically laconic prose, "So much the better, we shall fight in the shade."



Edited, Mar 9th 2007 2:38pm by fhrugby
#58 Mar 09 2007 at 11:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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fhrugby the Sly wrote:
The IMAX in Manhattan, that is showing 300, is already sold out thru Monday. I am thinking of going to the one in New Rochelle instead, it still has tickets available and it is only a 30 minute drive north. Wiki has a nice article describing the actual historical events.


I will be sad if the theater I am going to sells out. It shouldn't since it's next weekend though, I think.

*frown*

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#59 Mar 09 2007 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
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looking foward to the new fantastic four myself.


For myself, that just made your opinion on movies null. The Fantastic Four movie was awful.

Oh, and ladies? I heard that Gerard Butler worked out like nobodies business to get ready for this movie. Since the movie was finished, he hasn't worked out since then, and still has washboard abs... Smiley: drool2
#60 Mar 09 2007 at 11:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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The local IMAX here is sold out as well unless I wanted to see it at 1:00pm in the afternoon. Which I don't.

Next weekend ahoy!
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#61 Mar 09 2007 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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The local IMAX here is sold out as well unless I wanted to see it at 1:00pm in the afternoon. Which I don't.

Next weekend ahoy!
Reno 911 here we come! Smiley: lol
#62 Mar 09 2007 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Aside from the fact that, in the promo at least, Gerard Butler seems to have no ability to modulate his voice outside the range of "professional wrestler" and "boot camp drill sergeant" early word coming in from reviewers that I tend to agree with is that it's a bunch of pro-Iraq war propaganda with a huge dollop of misogyny and historical inaccuracy thrown in.

So...yeah, think I'm gonna skip it.



Edited, Mar 9th 2007 12:14pm by Ambrya
#63 Mar 09 2007 at 12:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ambrya wrote:
Aside from the fact that, in the promo at least, Gerard Butler seems to have no ability to modulate his voice outside the range of "professional wrestler" and "boot camp drill sergeant" early word coming in from reviewers that I tend to agree with is that it's a bunch of pro-Iraq war propaganda with a huge dollop of misogyny and historical inaccuracy thrown in.

So...yeah, think I'm gonna skip it.


Communist.

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#64 Mar 09 2007 at 12:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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early word coming in from reviewers that I tend to agree with...
Really? I saw two newspaper reviews for it today, both of which were glowing.
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#65 Mar 09 2007 at 12:39 PM Rating: Good
Ambrya, these are prolly the same people that insisted that "Happy Feet" had hidden themes dealing with homosexuality and was also a slight against Jews.

Point is, you're going to find what you're looking for even if it's not there. As anti-Iraq war as I am, this film has nothing to do with the Iraq. There are no hidden undertones, there is no conservative agenda to brainwash you into thinking anything else. It's a film about Spartans v. Persians. Anyone who finds more than that in there is just looking for an excuse.

Hell, I could make the argument that the film is more anti war than pro war if I felt like it.

Small force of men defending their homeland from the horde of someone who styles himself as a God.

Sounds like insurgents fighting back against the coalition forces to me.

If I felt like spinning it that way.

But I hope my point is clear.
IT'S A ******* MOVIE.



Historical inaccuracy?....... This is a film based on a comic book based on the events. What the heck do you expect?

Butler has two modes of speak- shouting, and softly. His softly moments are usually very touching.

And the misogyny? Talk about overblown. I mean, hell the Spartan Queen is presented as a strong woman throughout the film. What are they griping about, the Oracle? Xerxes' harem?


Edited, Mar 9th 2007 2:52pm by Althrun
#66 Mar 09 2007 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
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I aggree, the movie is based on the comic book, not historical events. The historical events are a significant influence, but in this age of the interweb, we can all find the real history with the click of a button and we can enjoy a story based on that history just in and of itself.

Sometimes the story is added to just to create a better flow. Other times things are left out just because no one would believe it would be true, a good example is El Cid. He was dead for 3 days when they strapped him on a horse and rode him in front of the troops which scared the crap of the enemy and they retreated. The movie showed him dying just before the battle started, because nobody in modern times would believe that people would hold a body for three days for that purpose.



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#67 Mar 09 2007 at 2:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Ambrya wrote:
early word coming in from reviewers that I tend to agree with...
Really? I saw two newspaper reviews for it today, both of which were glowing.


The NYT and Slatedidn't think much of it. Winning quotes:

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Allegory hunters will find some gristly morsels of topicality tossed in their direction, but you can find many of the same themes, conveyed with more nuance and irony, in a Pokémon cartoon.


Slate wrote:
If 300, the new battle epic based on the graphic novel by Frank Miller and Lynn Varley, had been made in Germany in the mid-1930s, it would be studied today alongside The Eternal Jew as a textbook example of how race-baiting fantasy and nationalist myth can serve as an incitement to total war.


Also, this review was linked by a friend on my LiveJournal flist.

All in all, sounds like there won't be much there for me. Despite the presence of David Wenham.

#68 Mar 09 2007 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
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As anti-Iraq war as I am, this film has nothing to do with the Iraq.


Uh-huh. And that's why the characters are actually quoting pro-Iraq war bumper stickers like "Freedom isn't Free"?

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I mean, hell the Spartan Queen is presented as a strong woman throughout the film.


Uh-huh. In my lexicon, a "strong woman" doesn't bargain with her body or "allow" herself to be raped.

Sorry, not buying it. Thanks, but I'll pass. Cheerfully.

#69 Mar 09 2007 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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And that's why the characters are actually quoting pro-Iraq war bumper stickers like "Freedom isn't Free"?


Odd as it may sound, that sentiment didn't originate with the current war in Iraq.

Historicaly the Spartans were right wing nutjobs fighting Iran. What's the movie supposed to do, exactly? Make the Spartans from Persia and the Persians from Greece??
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Yeah, but if you read the reviews, it seems to be exactly what people should expect, ie: watching someone play a violent video game for two hours with amazing graphics.

Nearly all reviewers have said it's completely consistent with the trailers and marketing materials, if you're expecting an in depth character study or moral ambiguity, you'll be disappointed. If it made you happy to see some Gladiator looking dude say "then we shall fight in the shade" it seems you'll be happy.

/shrug.

Can't be worse than Troy.
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Yeah, but if you read the reviews, it seems to be exactly what people should expect, ie: watching someone play a violent video game for two hours with amazing graphics.
Oh, I wasn't putting it down. Just commenting & giving Ambrya a chance to read collected reviews.
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#73 Mar 09 2007 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
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And that's why the characters are actually quoting pro-Iraq war bumper stickers like "Freedom isn't Free"?


Odd as it may sound, that sentiment didn't originate with the current war in Iraq.

Historicaly the Spartans were right wing nutjobs fighting Iran. What's the movie supposed to do, exactly? Make the Spartans from Persia and the Persians from Greece??


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#74 Mar 09 2007 at 3:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, but if you read the reviews, it seems to be exactly what people should expect, ie: watching someone play a violent video game for two hours with amazing graphics.
Oh, I wasn't putting it down. Just commenting & giving Ambrya a chance to read collected reviews.


Thanks. They're pretty much reinforcing the what I had already determined. Good, mindless entertainment for fanbois who are only concerned about the pretty, lame if you're expecting anything deeper.

#75 Mar 09 2007 at 3:31 PM Rating: Good
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The Spartans had plenty going for them until they illegalised iPODs
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#76 Mar 09 2007 at 5:22 PM Rating: Default
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Can't be worse than Troy.


Review. If you don't want to read, you've been warned. (no spoilers)
























It is worse than Troy. I took an afternoon power lunch and went to see it.

Rating 1-10, I give 300 a 6.1, still worth seeing in the theater, but if you're expecting an epic story the script doesn't do it anywhere justice. For some comparative rates of movies I'd give.

Gladiator 8.2
LoTR 9.6
Troy 7.3
AnyGivenSunday 8.4 (you'll read in review)
Alexander 7.4
Braveheart 9.3
KillBill 9.5

Review (no spoilers)

Music is totally out of era and genre, cheap heavy metal samplings. There is some decent cinemtography, but it borders on the fantasy side rather than the realistic side (as expected). This ain't no LoTR. You'd think there would be a straightforward story to tell, but the script is bad. It tries to rip off the above mentioned movies in obvious ways, and does it badly. You can tell the studios thought this was the next one of those movies.

Of course Smash got it wrong calling the Spartans right wing nutjobs when the Spartans were commies.

It sounded like George Bush sticking his head in the sand when he said the terrorists hate our "freedom". So tired. I agree it seems intentionally scripted as some cheesy Iraq motivation movie. This seems like a movie that was made to inspire NFL players, but comes up flat. I felt like the Chicago Bears stadium big screen bear was used as the roar of the animals, making noise to drown out the crowd silence while waiting for the snap clock to run some before the next play. Top that with heavy metal music you'd hear live at a pro football stadium and it doesn't do it for me. And it's obvious they failed by going way out of the way to tie in some crappy love story angle so there could be a lead female role, and some actress would have the chance to play the same tired female role as in Gladiator and Alexander, with a whoop di doo twist.

There's some great gore and violence and then there's some cheesy gore and violence. KillBill fountain necks worked in KillBill. They don't in 300. The Princess Bride is more badass than 300. It's no where historically accurate enough. The script is crap. But the shower of arrows cinematography is the best yet. Xerxes throne is kick *** too. In the end I was meh, would watch it again on dvd, but wouldn't pay to see it in the theater again like I did with KillBill and LoTR. I was anticipating better, such that I had to stop off at BestBuy afterwards and pick up some good DVDs, Das Boot and Borat.

The History Channel version of this will pwn the movie.

And yeah here's the wiki link for the Battle of Thermopalye:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae
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