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#1 Mar 06 2007 at 7:29 AM Rating: Decent
I stumbled upon this, an article about one of the Ayatollahs in Iran in which he talks about our beloved Mahmoud. The article is in French, so I translated the quotes.

It's interesting to see what the people with the real power think about all this. So all these quotes are from the grand Ayatollah Youssef Saanei.

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The Islamist Republic made more progress in the times of Ayatollah Khomeiny - May his soul rest in peace - than recently. We should never have found ourselvse with the current adminstration. It's a sign that we are moving further away from the goals of the Revolution and of The Imam. Cultured people are suffering and hopeless.


He talks of "demagogy", of "incapcity", and of "Broken promises". He then talks about the increase in domestic oil prices:

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Like every Iranian, I was promised to have the oil money brought to my table. Instead, they are stealing it from my car!


He then talks about the "human rights of men and women" having regressed since Ahmedindjad came to power.

Obviously, he talks about the nuclear issue:

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Slogans are, here as in the US, made for domestic purposes. But those solgans, and they don't realise that, are harmful to Iran's image abroad. The more we hear them, the worst it gets. We have nothing to gain from being isolated, and new sanctions, as well as an American air strike, would be catastrophical.


He then talks about the Holocaust conference in such a delicate climate.

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The Koran says to never do onto others what you don't want them to do to you. The Holocaust is History. Are we going to change the History of other nations? I don't understand why the government did this. Would we like it if other nations had a Conferences on our History? No, all this is terribly damaging for Islam and for Iran



A Professor at the Qom University is quoted as saying:

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Amedinejhad is supported by two or three reactionnary Ayatollahs, like Ayatollah Mesbah-Yasdi. Most of the Grand Ayatollah are uncomfortable with the "religious populism" of the secular Amedinejhad, and with the tensions he created within the regime and society. They prefered the other President, Rafsandjani, a cultured and educated religious scholar, but above all a pragmatist that knew how to handle moments of crisis.


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#2 Mar 06 2007 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
as i do not know french, ill take your translations as word. if that truly is the feeling of "those in power", then why is that nut case still the head of the gov. in Iran?
#3 Mar 06 2007 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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as i do not know french, ill take your translations as word. if that truly is the feeling of "those in power", then why is that nut case still the head of the gov. in Iran?


Doesn't he still control all the little men running around with guns? Sounds like a good reason to go with the flow to me.
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#4 Mar 06 2007 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
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I think that Ahmedinejad has an awful lot less 'real' power in Iran than most of us in the west actually are led to believe.....

He's a mouthy b'stard for sure. But the president of Iran has traditionally been a figurehead more than a 'decider'.
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#5 Mar 07 2007 at 4:03 AM Rating: Decent
Singdall wrote:
as i do not know french, ill take your translations as word. if that truly is the feeling of "those in power", then why is that nut case still the head of the gov. in Iran?


Because the Supreme Council (the Ayatollahs) can't kick him from office without a flagrant violation of the Islamic Constitution. Mahmoud was elected, not completely fairly but still, so he still represents the will of the people. The Ayatollahs kicking him is the equivalent of Congress impeaching a President. It can happen, but it takes quite a lot.

It was just to show that Mahmoud is very unpopular at home, and the Iranians in general are more conrcened about the petrol prices than stupid Holocaust conventions.

It's a complex and dangerous situation unfolding before our eyes, and as always, it's better to have slightly broader picture to understand whats going on.
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#6 Mar 07 2007 at 5:53 AM Rating: Decent
still you claim that those who are "truly in power", well if they are the ones with the real power, then they should have the power to shut him up, or have him removed one way or an other.

has happened before, sure it can happen again.
#7 Mar 07 2007 at 6:03 AM Rating: Decent
Singdall wrote:
still you claim that those who are "truly in power", well if they are the ones with the real power, then they should have the power to shut him up, or have him removed one way or an other.


It's a bit more complicated than that. Iran has a constitution, and they must abide by it, so they can't just chuck out an elected President because they don't all agree with him. They, however, are permanent. Mahmoud will be gone soon.


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has happened before, sure it can happen again.


Are you referring to the Shah? Because that was completely different, it was a violent revolution, not a constitutional change.
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