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Ignoring the "It'd never pass" aspect of it...

Would it benefit society if the United States offered free birth control to anyone who requested it? By which I mean the pill, long-term "pill" injections/implants, condoms and Plan B. Of course, people being people, we can't assure that they would always be used consistantly and properly but we'd provide as much education as possible. Make them all widely available -- any pharmacy, doctor's office or medical building will be able to dispense them (or make the injection types easy to have done).

Is it something we should do? It's cheaper to prevent a birth than to raise a child on the State's tab.

Would be? Or be mandated to by law?

Other than that, Planned Parenthood in most areas already dispenses birth control free, or at reduced cost depending on your financial situation.

Other than that, Planned Parenthood in most areas already dispenses birth control free, or at reduced cost depending on your financial situation.

Why is this board composed of 95% people who can't just ******* play along? You're not clever, just tedious. You're the guy in class who derails every hypothetical conversation by pointing out meaningless pedantic things of no value.

"Should we increase fines on speeding to curb accidents caused by speed?"

"Well, what if the radar gun isn't calibrated correctly?"

"Someone smash his head with an anvil."

Without taking into consideration the "snowball's chance in hell" it would have of actually making it into law, I could still see problems with the regulation of the pills, namely the Morning After pill. If it was free to all, or just widely available, it would likely lead to decreased use of contraceptives. After all, everybody knows that sex feels better without a condom, so if you have a perfectly legal, readily available fallback, what's to encourage people to use condoms and similar contraceptives in the first place?

A side effect of decreased use of condoms would mean an increase in the spread of STDs. All in all, the best route would likely be the free availability of condoms, as well as a change from the insipid "abstinence only" education that grade school children receive to instruct them in the proper use of contraceptives. Birth control and the Morning After pill should still be regulated in some way, if only to discourage them as substitutes for other modes of contraception.

It is a question because current immigration systems are designed to filter out x number of people. To raise the numbers our standards would have to be lowered.

Personally, I agree with raising the immigration levels. But, it's an issue that will have a lot of people up in arms.

I have no personal experience but, according to the testimonies I've heard from woman who've used Plan B, no one would willingly make it their first choice.

I'd assume a prescription would be given for the Pill preventing you from hording 15,000 Pill packets. It'd just be free.

English, please.

Which word confused you? Perhaps you can attempt to paraphrase your understanding of my post, and I can correct what you got wrong. I'm not terribly good at dumbing things down.

Well I don't know if I'd call the argument that: "The hypothetical situation isn't hypothetical because it already exists" a meaningless pendantic thing of no value. Why are you so angry Smash? Is this still about the Muslim heaven thing?

It's as if we decided to debate "Why don't we put some sort of wheel shaped device in cars so that people can control which direction it travels in when they accelerate."

But anyway, back on topic.



It's irrelevant. anyone that wants 100% free birth control can go to their local Planned Parenthood and ask for it. They have the option to not report their income on the sign up form. It's already available and we still have thousands of unplanned births. Even if they don't want to hassle with planned parenthood, condoms are $4 a box at your local grocery store, Birth control pills are $23 a month at your local pharmacy.

Anybody in this country that wants birth control can have it. Publically funding it will only give politicians something else to debate to no real consequence.

Well I don't know if I'd call the argument that: "The hypothetical situation isn't hypothetical because it already exists" a meaningless pendantic thing of no value. Why are you so angry Smash? Is this still about the Muslim heaven thing?

It's as if we decided to debate "Why don't we put some sort of wheel shaped device in cars so that people can control which direction it travels in when they accelerate."


No, it's not even vaguely approximate, and you know it isn't. This is just your ego defending your own stupidity at this point.


It's irrelevant. anyone that wants 100% free birth control can go to their local Planned Parenthood and ask for it. They have the option to not report their income on the sign up form. It's already available and we still have thousands of unplanned births. Even if they don't want to hassle with planned parenthood, condoms are $4 a box at your local grocery store, Birth control pills are $23 a month at your local pharmacy.

Anybody in this country that wants birth control can have it. Publically funding it will only give politicians something else to debate to no real consequence.

This is largely true in relatively liberal metropolitan areas. It's completely false in small rural places and among underage, poor, or various other classes of people. Your PERSONAL experience is not representative of EVERYONE'S experience.

You can't be so ******* simple as to think it is. Can you? Really?

I'm sorry, but could you direct me to a small rural place in the US that does not have a pharmacy?

My argument is that getting birth control in this country is not a problem. Getting people to agree to use it is. We could tape condoms to every telephone pole in the country and it wouldn't make a dent in the birth rate.

How is form completely meaningless on an internet forum? All that I have to go by here to interpret your opinion is the way you put your words together. Failing to do that in a coherent manner only leads to people misunderstanding your meaning.

And, to be clear, I didn't miss the point of your post entirely, just wanted clarification to make sure that I understood you correctly.

How is form completely meaningless on an internet forum? All that I have to go by here to interpret your opinion is the way you put your words together. Failing to do that in a coherent manner only leads to people misunderstanding your meaning.

And, to be clear, I didn't miss the point of your post entirely, just wanted clarification to make sure that I understood you correctly.

So, about half stupid and half petty then?

Noted.

I can ignore arguments and attack small nuances too, y'know.