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#1 Feb 28 2007 at 6:19 PM Rating: Default
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In the interests of trying not to form any opinions without looking at both sides of any story, (thanks for the tip gbaji!) I've been studiously checking out Fox news in the hope of finding the much touted 'fair and balanced' journalism that I so yearn for, and apparently have been searching for in all the wrong places.

So, imagine my surprise when I came accross this gem of a transcript. Codeleeza and some dude called Chris Wallace.

Now in another thread we've been arguing about 'quality' of journalism. And someone (cant remember who) asked for a specific instance of inferior journalism.

Heres a fine example.

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WALLACE: Let's turn to Iraq talking now about rewriting the 2002 congressional authorization for the use of force in Iraq.

Given that our mission there has changed so dramatically over the last four years, don't they have a point?

RICE: We don't need to do anything but to allow the commanders on the ground — General Petraeus, who's gone out there as the new commander — to pursue the course that he and other commanders have put together and have recommended to the president. That's what we need to concentrate on as a country.

I know it's extremely difficult. And yes, as the president has said, we've now overthrown Saddam Hussein. We are in a different situation, even, some would say, a different war. But the consolidation of a stable and democratic Iraq after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein is a part of what America owes to the Iraqi people, owes to the region and owes to ourselves so that our own security is there.

Chris, it would be like saying that after Adolf Hitler was overthrown, we needed to change, then, the resolution that allowed the United States to do that so that we could deal with creating a stable environment in Europe after he was overthrown. It's a part of a continuum of what we're trying to do in Iraq.


Wallace didn't even blink!

Here we have the Secratary of State of the USA comparing the **** and Sadaam Hussein (who was strangely unconnected to the terrorist attacks of 9/11. At least she didn't try to pin Pearl Harbour on Adolf) to WWII and Adolf Hitler.

Did the USA 'overthrow' Adolf Hitler? what 'resolution' to overthrow AH is she on about? I thought ya'll went to 'war' with **** Germany.

WTF is she talking about?

Why the f'ck didn't this Wallace fella say...

"hang on a moment Madame Secratary! Do you know what you are saying. Did you actually study history? or political science? like it says on your resume? Are you trying to compare the 2nd World War with this sordid mess in the ME? Are you saying that, as we occupied Germany after WWII, so we are
in fact, occupying Iraq? In short Madame Secratary, what the f'ck are you talking about?"

Instead, Mr Wallace said

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WALLACE: Now, Senate Democrats say that they want to modify the authorizing of the U.S. combat role within a year. If that goes through, would the president feel bound by such a measure?


Did he notice? Did he notice, but not care? Did he notice and agree?

Who knows? But if that is supposed to be quality news casting, then I'm against it!
Its not just sh1tty journalism, its dangerously sh1tty journalism.
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#3 Feb 28 2007 at 6:50 PM Rating: Good
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You do realise that gbaji has said, in so many words, exactly what she said on several occasions, right?
#4 Feb 28 2007 at 7:24 PM Rating: Good
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#5 Feb 28 2007 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
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The Glorious GitSlayer wrote:
You do realise that gbaji has said, in so many more words, exactly what she said on several occasions, right?

Minor correction there.
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#6 Feb 28 2007 at 7:27 PM Rating: Default
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The similarity did not escape me Smiley: grin

Strangely, From the first 'it' to 'overthrown' is 42 words! Wich is,as we all know "the answer to life, the universe, and everything'.

I would hastily point out tho, that Gbaji will never actually make it onto Fox News, mainly because the Anchors (and audience) would drown in the quagmire of his verbosity (I lurve that phrase).



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This is a stunning revelation!


And so it should be.

She is the person most responsible for Americas image abroad. She is the Foreign Minister. The person who represents the USA. If she doesn't know her history, or the history of her predecessors (general Marshall ring any bells? The Marshall plan for Europes reconstruction was named after him. he was a Secretary of State too, you know!) then what hope does she have of understanding current geo-polotics.

But then again maybe her job is no longer understanding world events and helping shape american foreign policy, but rather she sees her job is to repeat lies and half truths in the hope of justifying the rape and pillage of the Middle East to the viewers of Fox News.

But my point was to highlight the dire standard of journalistic integrity that allows someone like her to say stuff like that and get away with it. We already know she's a bullsh1tter. Its the journalists who are allowing her to get away with it.

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#7 Feb 28 2007 at 7:42 PM Rating: Good
Not sure if you guys knew this or not. Buuuuuuut Chris Wallace is a fucking ******.
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Rule #1 in Politics:

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Never answer the question that was asked of you, answer the question that you wish had been asked of you.


I forgot who said that, some would be war criminal who was second in command of the japanese fire bombings or something. Was in a documentary I saw about said fire bombings. They interviewed that guy the whole time. It gave some interesting insight on politics.

Anyway, it applies even more now. This is why I don't like politics, lack of honest straight answers.

Even worse is when they (in this case, it be Bush) get blindsided by a question, and just refuse to admit they don't know what they are talking about, so they go on and on, fishing for approval.
#9 Feb 28 2007 at 9:30 PM Rating: Decent
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K.O. already ranted about this on Countdown the other night. Check out http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/26/condi-rice-on-revoking-the-2002-iraq-authorization/ to find a video of the comment. (click on the video to watch)
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#10 Feb 28 2007 at 9:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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paulsol the Flatulent wrote:
... I've been studiously checking out Fox news in the hope of finding the much touted 'fair and balanced'...


I've come to the conclusion with fox that The "Fair" part refers to more of a "shady county fair... with carneys and sideshow acts" approach, and the balanced part refers to the fact that they only report during the same 24 hours as the rest of the news stations. So they aren't takeing more time than actually exists, it just feels that way.
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#11 Mar 01 2007 at 6:39 AM Rating: Decent
As much as I want to take FOX news as fair and balanced I know it's not. They lean hard to the right. However, it is obvious to anyone with at least a glimmer of intelligence, that almost every other significant major news media leans to the left. Some a lot harder (Dan Rather types) than others, but still a lean to the left.

Is it possible to watch CNN and see a picture of a soldier who died in action...and not see a spot on GWB either before or after the image.

They lead the sheep masterfully.

I think I'll go rent Absence of Malice tonight. Love that flick.
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