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Lt. Gov. Anthony G. Brown (D) and his wife, Patricia Arzuaga rallied the crowd gathered on Lawyers Mall, speaking in English and Spanish. "My father came from Jamaica," Brown said. "My parents found in this country a land of opportunity, founded on a good education." He said he and O'Malley (D) support a bill that would allow illegal immigrants to receive in-state tuition at community colleges and state universities. The crowd roared.

rganizers fanned out to lawmakers' offices to push for passage of three bills. One would dramatically boost state funding for English as a second language classes to $24 million from $3.8 million. O'Malley has said he would sign the tuition bill, which requires students to have graduated from a Maryland high school.

I'm about off for lunch but, to hit this briefly, unless they're living under a bridge or in a barrel, they're paying property taxes either directly or indirectly. Which is a principle source of public school funding anyway.

The fact that illegal immigrants pay taxes at all will come as news to many Americans. A stunning two-thirds of illegal immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes.

the 1996 welfare reform bill disqualified illegal immigrants from nearly all means-tested government programs including food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid and Medicare-funded hospitalization. The only services that illegals can still get are emergency medical care and K-12 education.

the 1996 welfare reform effort dramatically reduced the use of welfare by undocumented immigrant households, exactly as intended. And another vital thing happened in 1996: the Internal Revenue Service began issuing identification numbers to enable illegal immigrants who don't have Social Security numbers to file taxes.

One might have imagined that those fearing deportation or confronting the prospect of paying for their safety net through their own meager wages would take a pass on the IRS' scheme. Not so. Close to 8 million of the 12 million or so illegal aliens in the country today file personal income taxes using these numbers, contributing billions to federal coffers. No doubt they hope that this will one day help them acquire legal status — a plaintive expression of their desire to play by the rules and come out of the shadows.

What's more, aliens who are not self-employed have Social Security and Medicare taxes automatically withheld from their paychecks. Since undocumented workers have only fake numbers, they'll never be able to collect the benefits these taxes are meant to pay for. Last year, the revenues from these fake numbers — that the Social Security administration stashes in the “earnings suspense file” — added up to 10 percent of the Social Security surplus. The file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year.

Beyond federal taxes, all illegals automatically pay state sales taxes that contribute toward the upkeep of public facilities such as roads that they use, and property taxes through their rent that contribute toward the schooling of their children. The non-partisan National Research Council found that when the taxes paid by the children of low-skilled immigrant families — most of whom are illegal — are factored in, they contribute on average $80,000 more to federal coffers than they consume.

"Give"? For free? I thought you stoners were, asa rule, supposed to be more inclusive. Tsk, tsk.
Anyone needing examples of what's considered racism during any of our future discussions on the topic should refer to this comment.

Would you say that if most people in this country had their way and had the resources that every illegal immigrant would be rounded up and deported?

Kelvyquayo the Irrelevant wrote:
Hey now, I'm just stirring the pot more than smoking it, sista.
Smash says we're all racist, so it's okay.

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My point is (I think)
I didn't read the rest of that. If you can't commit to a point, I can't be bothered with it.

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Would you say that if most people in this country had their way and had the resources that every illegal immigrant would be rounded up and deported?
No.

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Would you also say that if that ever became a federal mandate that there would be some states (prolly like Maryland) who would stand up and try to fight for it's citizenry; documented or not?.
If what became a mandate? Mass deportation? Amnesty?

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oh, how I long to see sparks fly.
Don't be so excited. Once it happens, you won't really care.

If you have to ask, you are a racist.

She was referring to Smasheroo's statement of everyone being racist.. If I recall correctly he said that all white people were racist.

not "we all". last I noticed, you ain't white.

I don't believe you, ; but don't be scared. I have many points in the things that I do and say... the following was one of the many facets of my observations about these issues.. and was only ONE of the points... I just do not have the time or the patience to list them all. So rather than confuse the matter and declare it my ONLY point, I left it ambiguous to leave room for argument.

shll I rephrase the question to "majority of white rednecks in charge?"

A federal mandate for mass roundups, arrests, and deportations.

I think that I am offended and that you are very wrong.

50 million illegal sub-humans clogging the school system, 50 million sub-humans pillaging the public treasury, 50 million sub-humans bringing a crime wave, 50 million sub-humans trying to turn the USA into the Marxist socialist politcal hell hole

There you go again, pointing out our differences. Damn, you can't help yourself!

Again, I don't take philosophical rambling for a point. Philosophy never amounted towards anything resembling a conclusion.

You think? I need to try harder.