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#1 Feb 19 2007 at 3:36 PM Rating: Good
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Priest jailed for exorcism death

A Romanian priest has been jailed for 14 years for conducting an exorcism that led to the death of a nun who he believed was possessed by devils.

Irina Cornici, 23, died after being starved and chained to a cross at a secluded convent in the north-east.

The ritual in 2005 was led by Daniel Petru Corogeanu, 31, the priest at the Holy Trinity convent in Tanacu village.

He and four nuns were convicted of manslaughter. The nuns got jail terms ranging from five to eight years.


Link is possibly NSFW as the photo appears to show the priest in question half way through trying to swallow a long-haired Orang Utan whole.

Edited, Feb 19th 2007 6:36pm by Nobby
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#2 Feb 19 2007 at 3:41 PM Rating: Good
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The Orthodox Church, which described the Tanacu incident as "abominable", has promised reforms, including psychological tests for those seeking to enter monasteries.

It banned Corogeanu from the priesthood and excommunicated the four nuns.

In 1999, when the Vatican issued its first new guidelines since 1614 for driving out devils, it urged priests to take modern psychiatry into account in deciding who should be exorcised


Correct me if I am wrong please, but are not the Catholic Church, headed by the Pope in the Vatican, seperate from the Orthodox Church?
#3 Feb 19 2007 at 3:42 PM Rating: Decent
In many ways, being in a Romanian convent and being in a Romanian jailcell are pretty much the same thing.

I still don't really get the Power of Jesus Christ compelled himself to die, though.
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#4 Feb 19 2007 at 4:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Correct me if I am wrong please, but are not the Catholic Church, headed by the Pope in the Vatican, seperate from the Orthodox Church?


Yup... seems like a faux pas on the part of BBC. At least Christians can get the different denominations of atheism right... it's "I believe in nothing," and "I don't give a rat's *********** right?
#5 Feb 19 2007 at 4:57 PM Rating: Good
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Link is possibly NSFW as the photo appears to show the priest in question half way through trying to swallow a long-haired Orang Utan whole.


HOLY ****Smiley: laugh, that's gonna be me in another week if I don't get a sharp object in my hand soon.
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#6 Feb 19 2007 at 5:09 PM Rating: Good
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That's not a priest. That's a Hell's Angel.
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#7 Feb 20 2007 at 2:07 AM Rating: Decent
Why do you guys hate Romania?
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#8 Feb 20 2007 at 4:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Priest and sex crazed nuns kill nun who won't give it up! or Priest orders nun harem to torture young nun into submission! Omg.. wait wait... The power of christ compels you... to let me put it in your pooper!
#9 Feb 20 2007 at 5:40 AM Rating: Decent
What makes it even better is that the priest hadn't finished the training school from the church, yet was put as a priest anyway.... And one of the nuns got eighty years, while the rest got off with a nice under-15 sentence.
#10 Feb 20 2007 at 7:07 AM Rating: Decent
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it's "I believe in nothing," and "I don't give a rat's *********** right?


There's also, "I believe there is no God."
#11 Feb 20 2007 at 8:46 AM Rating: Decent
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it's "I believe in nothing," and "I don't give a rat's *********** right?


There's also, "I believe there is no God."


Edited, Feb 20th 2007 11:47am by Deadgye
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#12 Feb 20 2007 at 9:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Correct me if I am wrong please, but are not the Catholic Church, headed by the Pope in the Vatican, seperate from the Orthodox Church?
Only since about the 1100's. You can't expect the media to keep up with these developments.
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#13 Feb 20 2007 at 9:18 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
The Glorious GitSlayer wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong please, but are not the Catholic Church, headed by the Pope in the Vatican, seperate from the Orthodox Church?
Only since about the 1100's. You can't expect the media to keep up with these developments.


There was no confusion on the part of the BBC. They said that Orthodox Church excommunicated him and "has promised reform." The Catholic Church, they noted, reformed their practices in 1999.

PS. Btw, I think that the split occurred earlier in some parts of the Orthodox Church. My understanding is that the Eastern Orthodox Church was established around 300-400.

Edited, Feb 20th 2007 12:33pm by Annabella
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#14 Feb 20 2007 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
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There is a significant difference between "I believe in nothing," and "I believe there is no God."

The latter has a belief; they believe that God does not exist. The former has no belief; they neither believe that God exists nor that he doesn't. Technically those people aren't atheists in the first place. The distinction is important.

Remember, the former has no beliefs, the latter has beliefs. There is a clear difference.
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Only since about the 1100's


Kinda.

It's substantially more complex than that, actually. Not being a pedantic ****, though, I won't bother to elucidate.

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#16 Feb 20 2007 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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Smasharoo wrote:

Only since about the 1100's


Kinda.

It's substantially more complex than that, actually. Not being a pedantic @#%^, though, I won't bother to elucidate.
Heaven forefend!

I took the reference to teh Papists as a relative contrast, a couterpoint if you will, but maybe that's because I'm not a thick, slack-jawed yank.

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Kinda.

It's substantially more complex than that, actually. Not being a pedantic @#%^, though, I won't bother to elucidate.

Too lazy, huh?
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Too lazy, huh?


No RoI.

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#20 Feb 20 2007 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Makaro wrote:

Yup... seems like a faux pas on the part of BBC. At least Christians can get the different denominations of atheism right... it's "I believe in nothing," and "I don't give a rat's *********** right?


Well actually "I believe in nothing" would be nihilism, and "I don't give a rat's ********** would be apathy.

But since most Christians are not even aware that they worship the same God as Muslims, whatever they have to say must be taken with consideration of their ignorance.
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Makaro wrote:

Yup... seems like a faux pas on the part of BBC. At least Christians can get the different denominations of atheism right... it's "I believe in nothing," and "I don't give a rat's *********** right?


Well actually "I believe in nothing" would be nihilism, and "I don't give a rat's ********** would be apathy.


Which sorta denigrates the assertion that christians can get the different "denominations" of atheism right.

If you can truly describe it as such, the clearest "denominations" of atheism I've heard defined are "weak atheism" and "strong atheism".

Weak atheism = "I do not believe there is a god" = describes what the person DOES NOT believe but the person has not defined what they DO believe.

Strong atheism = "I believe there is no god" = describes the person's beliefs, arguably making it the more religious of the two.

Of course then you can throw agnosticism into the mix. Agnostic coming from the latin a- meaning "without" and gnosis meaning "knowledge". So by pure literal standards an agnostic would say "I don't know for certain if there is or is not a god", so they acknowledge their ignorance, but do not define their beliefs, putting them on par with "weak" atheists. However, by that definition one could be an agnostic atheist (an atheist who admits they might be wrong) or an agnostic christian (a christian who admits they might also be wrong). But then there are the historical denomination "The Agnostics" whose basic tenet was that the nature of god is unknowable, but in that very definition a belief in some unknowable form of a god is implicitly stated.

Point being, to state that there are "denominations" of atheism is pretty flawed, as atheists are pretty unorganized as religions go, lack any defined heirarchy, dogma, or clear principles. Atheism is an exclusive, not inclusive, term so you you would really just have to ask the individual atheist you are dealing with what they think about any given subject.

But you really probably aren't going to find many atheists tying people to wooden planks and killing them in an attempt to drive demons out of them, so the whole issue is moot.
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Smasharoo wrote:

Only since about the 1100's


Kinda.
Hence the qualifier "about" Smiley: grin
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Jophiel wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:

Only since about the 1100's


Kinda.
Hence the qualifier "about" Smiley: grin


But is he referring to the numerous Ecumenical Councils that occurred in Early Christianity?
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#24 Feb 21 2007 at 12:54 PM Rating: Good
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But is he referring to the numerous Ecumenical Councils that occurred in Early Christianity?
Yeah but only Nicaea stood up to anything, and that was 800 years before.

I now expect Smash to toss in a counter-argument about Constantinople and the Filioque Clause and for Joph to crack a double-entendre joke about Aryanism.
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I always thought that it was also around the nature of Jesus and Council of Chalcedon that caused another rift with many churches only willing to accept the doctrine from the first three councils. As a result,the Oriental Orthodox Church was created. Aren't those churches called Coptic at this point? Also the Council of Epheseus (sp) a few decades prior I think almost created a great schism.

PS. I know that the councils were several centuries before. That was my question about the qualifier.



Edited, Feb 21st 2007 4:09pm by Annabella
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PS. I know that the councils were several centuries before. That was my question about the qualifier.
Nah, my point was just that the breaking between Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox was a slow process spanning hundreds of years but, by around 1100AD, the schism was pretty much complete.

Smash is just being pissy because he didn't know the difference between the Immaculate Conception & the Annunciation. Smiley: grin
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